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post #361 of 927 Old 10-12-2012, 03:32 PM
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Let us know how you like the BK4-4 in the Jives. I tried the minis in my Jives but returned them and am now waiting for the BK4-4's.

Will do but unfortunately they will be sitting in our rental unused for months. I'm going to test drive them to make sure they work but I probably will not be able to really use them until February.
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I need some help. I am 6'4" and find very few seats that I am comfortable to sit in. I have tried the Lane Bijou 152 at a local store and really liked them for comfort. They appear to be very similiar to the Fusion Escape 1019 and based on the reviews here would prefer to buy the Escapes from Roman. Is anyone fimiliar with both seats and could give me feedback how alike they are?

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Contact me off line, and I will tell you exactly how they are different.

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4 Lagoon Expresso Bonded leather chairs ordered a few days ago, can't wait for them to arrive! I got the curved configuration. Will update this post once I have them in and get some pictures of the setup!

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Can anyone comment on the butkicker addon? Is it worth it as it it shakes the chair like crazy or it just vibrates it?
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Buttkickers are adjustable. You can set the intensity to whatever you like best. IMO they are one of the best cost vs wow factor additions you can make. Guests go on and on about the butt kickers in my theater. They all love them.
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Are mini buttkickers enough for the seats like the Berkline 13175 vs the advance bk4-4?
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How do the Buttkickers attach to the chair frame? Does anyone have a photo of an installation in a Lagoon?

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When installing the buttkickers (both mini and advanced BK4-4s) we usually use 3/4" plywood plate, paint it black and mount the buttkicers on top of it. We drill two additional wholes in the side rails on the bottom of the chair (there are two predrilled wholes there already), and attach the plate w/bk. to those rails. The plate is usually installed close to the front of the chair, and the buttkicker is mounted on opposite side from where the power transformer is. It is also recommend replacing all plastic feet under the chairs with the kinetic rubber isolators in order to decouple the chairs from the floor and damp the vibrations generated by the buttkickers.

FYI: In a few weeks we will be offering metal plates that will have all pre-drilled wholes for mounting mini or BK4-4 advanced buttkickers.

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Any Canadians have any comments? As far as sales, shipping and support? Any issues with warranty claims?

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FYI: In a few weeks we will be offering metal plates that will have all pre-drilled wholes for mounting mini or BK4-4 advanced buttkickers.

Roman

will these allow anyone to mount butkickers by themselves as an afterthought in case they did not order them in the first place ?

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I have 4 of the escapes with buttkickers installed by Roman. All i can say is that they are great.

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will these allow anyone to mount butkickers by themselves as an afterthought in case they did not order them in the first place ?

The answer is yes.

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The answer is yes.

Hi Roman, if buttkickers were order with the Escape would it be pre-installed? Or does it ship as separate for me to install?
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We offer 2 options - mini buttkickers or advanced BK4-4 buttkickers. Before we ship the chairs we pre-install the buttkickers, and also replace all plastic feet under the chairs with kinetic rubber isolators that decouple chairs from the floor and dump the vibrations that come from the buttkickers. When you get the chairs all you have to do is connect the BKs to the amplifier and your surround sound system.

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We offer 2 options - mini buttkickers or advanced BK4-4 buttkickers. Before we ship the chairs we pre-install the buttkickers, and also replace all plastic feet under the chairs with kinetic rubber isolators that decouple chairs from the floor and dump the vibrations that come from the buttkickers. When you get the chairs all you have to do is connect the BKs to the amplifier and your surround sound system.

Thanks Roman, what does the buttkickers accept as connection, RCA cables or speaker wires? And is the amplifier you mention require for the buttkickers or can I just run cables from my receiver (like sub pre-out or front L & R speaker post) to the buttkickers?
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JChin,

Think about the buttkickers as speakers. They accept speaker wires, and do need amplification. You would use your pre-amp processor/surround sound receiver subwoofer output (if you only have one output, the BK amp comes with the Y-RCA splitter) to feed LFE signal to the buttkicker amplifier. The amplifier will power the buttkickers similarly to how your subwoofer amplifier powers the subwoofer(s).

I hope this helps.

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Anybody have the escapes in the 3 + 3 format in brown bonded leather? How do you like them? Pics?


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yes, mine slide rather easily... a good thing, as i need to vacuum underneath mine on a regular basis... i live in my theater room, we even eat dinner in there most nights (no kids, so we don't have to set a good example for anyone... tongue.gif )... plus the fur from my cats really builds up underneath there...
you'd probably have to unplug them though, depending on your actual layout, and plug them back in once they are moved... other than that, it should be no problem...
someone asked a "durability question" earlier... i've had mine since july, so far, so good... mine (2 of them, anyway), get used at least 6 hours every day (much longer on football weekends), and the recline mechanism gets used many many times each day... we'll see what happens a year from now, but given the abuse they've taken so far, i'm pretty confident i'm not gonna be griping... smile.gif any number of liquid items have already been spilled on them (including one of my cats doing a VERY BAD THING tongue.gif ), and the bonded leather cleans right up...

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I appreciate some advice on using Escapes as living room furniture. As I don't have a dedicated home theater, I plan to use my living room as my home theater as well. I am planning to buy two IOOI configs as I said earlier and wondering if they work well as traditional love seats as well? Or do they look odd for living room furniture?
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you are welcome... smile.gif

i don't think they'd look strange, they probably just look pretty much like a normal loveseat...

my room is a "semi-dedicated theater"... i can't call it a "real home theater", since it isn't sound proofed, etc., but it is designed around the projection setup and well light controlled... so while it isn't a "living room", it is where we spend all of our time... i have my four in a IOIOOIOI config... it looks "different" with the row of seats like that, but since the front third of the room is completely black (including floor and ceiling) it already looked "different" to begin with...

so far, reaction from people who have been in here is positive... smile.gif you can see pics of how i have them set up in my build thread that is linked in my sig (scroll to the end unless you want to see how the sausage was made)...

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roman, do you happen to know the exact diameter of the post for the table support?

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roman, do you happen to know the exact diameter of the post for the table support?
I can tell you that the tray pin that goes into the table support is about 1/2" in diameter.

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Roman - any powerbuys coming soon? biggrin.gif
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Hi Roman, hope everyone up there are ok and the store/warehouse structure didn't get damaged or flooded.

I wish you and everybody a save ending without distruction.
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I thought I would weigh in after having my Escape's for almost a year. I would say they are used 3-5 days per week and everything has held up extremely well. The leather looks exactly as it did the day I bought it, the reclining mechanisms are still just as smooth and all of the storage compartment armrests still feel completely solid. Honestly I cannot tell a difference in the chairs from the day I bought them...so after one year I have to say I am more than satisfied with the reliability.

All of my initial impressions are still the same. The comfort and quality is great. I still feel there are only a few things keeping my experience from being perfect:

1. I wish they would recline slightly more in both the back rest and the head rest. I find the headrest still a bit forward when not reclined and surprisingly I do sit that way a lot during football games.
2. I wish the lights could be disabled but I actually added blue LED accent lighting around my basement (not the theater room) to match so it actually fits pretty good.
3. I wish the coolers kept things cooler...I rarely use these.
4. I wish I had ordered buttkickers! I may need to order that retrofit plate.
5. I wish the trays were black.

Honestly these are all nitpicks...based on my long-term experience you should order without hesitation. I still think they are great.
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Thanks for the update, greatly appreciated. I just order 6 escapes with but kickers and can't wait for them to arrive. Hope Roman and others are doing ok through this horrific storm. Thoughts go out to all affected.


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JChin,

We are OK, but no power since Monday... So, no heat and electricity...

The warehouse reopened - they have power. The shipments are going out as soon as trucking companies resume their business ( there were some problems with fuel and roads/power ).

I am currently out of state, but checking my emails daily...

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I just got the 4 straight configuration Escapes with black leather/vinyl from Roman. I was lucky that shipment took place prior to Sandy hitting the east coast. Roman's customer service lived up to his reputation. We took a chance based on all of your reviews and I don't think I ever purchased a big ticket item without actually test driving it. Very happy with the decision.





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We are OK, but no power since Monday... So, no heat and electricity...
The warehouse reopened - they have power. The shipments are going out as soon as trucking companies resume their business ( there were some problems with fuel and roads/power ).
I am currently out of state, but checking my emails daily...

Glad to hear that Roman !!
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Folks,

I am back. The second hurricane knocked down a few trees, and one almost hit the house, but again we were lucky...

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