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These are bolts, not screws.

Our chairs come Buttkicker ready, and we supply bolts and nuts with the chairs for the BK self install.

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These are bolts, not screws.

Our chairs come Buttkicker ready, and we supply bolts and nuts with the chairs for the BK self install.

Hope this helps
Indeed it does...so they are just buttkicker bolts then and nothing to worry about. As I find them I'll just keep them together in a bag.


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These are bolts, not screws.

Our chairs come Buttkicker ready, and we supply bolts and nuts with the chairs for the BK self install.

Hope this helps
Buttkicker ready? Does that only include certain Buttkicker products or will other tactile transducers fit?

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bombertodd,

Our chairs come with factory preinstalled rubber isolators that decouple the chairs from the floor and damp vibrations that come from the BKs. We also have a factory preinstalled plate on the bottom of the chair, and it was specifically designed to accept either mini or advanced BK4-4 buttkicker. We offer pre-installation option, and can do it before shipping the chairs. The BKs can also be self-installed at later point.

I strongly recommend using BK4-4 buttkickers over mini ones for several reasons:

* mini buttkickers can easily bottom out when installed on that plate and generate a clunking sound
* mini buttkickers reproduce the lower frequencies starting at 10 Hz, while the advanced BK4-4 go down to 5 Hz
* the BK4-4s are also more powerful

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Well,

The Lagoon-1011 is the entry level chair, and the Escape-1019 is our top of the line one with a lot of features...

Contact me via email or call me, and I can answer all your questions and provide more info if needed.

Is there any difference in build quality between the Escape and the other models or is a lack of features the main difference here?
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Quality, construction, covers, components and some features, like pocketed coil springs in the seats, BUTTKICKER READY, wallway design, attention to lumbar and head support are the same across our line of seating.

The differences between the chairs are in sizes, looks, shapes of the seats/arms (hence comfort), as well as features.

Each style groups was decided to address a specific customer.

Encore-1010 with manual recline in leather gel is the most affordable recliner, and still very comfortable and reliable.
Lagoon-1011 is an entry point motorized recliner with added USB port
Jive-1013 was designed with narrow footprint addressing the needs of the customers looking to place more chairs in smaller rooms. It also comes with storage compartment in the chair arm, and aluminum tray.
Tribute-1015 is bigger contemporary looking chair with highest back (44.75") that has all the features of the Jive, but also adds manually adjustable headrest
Streamline-1017 has motorized lumbar support and integrated cup holder with controls on the rim of it and a controllable light
Escape-1019 is our top of the line recliner that has bucket seat, motorized headrest, integrated cupholder with controls on the rim of it, and controllable cooler.

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I am hoping that anyone, Roman or owners, can give me some perspective on relative speed of power recline (interested in Jive specifically). Currently I have some other sofa's with power recline and my biggest gripe is that they are a bit of a hinderence when I want to get up quickly and I have to "wait" for them to close completely. My assumption is that the Jive do not have a power headrest, can someone confirm/deny that as well.
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I've found most power reclines are all about the same speed. I think any faster and people may not be able to dial in exactly where they want the recline to stop. If you need to get up quickly from your chair, I would not go with power reclines from any manufacturer. Just my two cents.
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On the Jives, I'd say it's around 12-13 seconds to and from full recline. In fairness, I very rarely use full recline, and would say about 10 seconds from my "normal" position. If the jump up quickly thing is often a concern, power recline might not be the best option.

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Most of the motorized recliners today use OKIN motors that have the same speed. Relatively to the motors Berkline used in the past these are faster. They will not allow you to quickly jump off the chair, but the infinite control over the chair, and ability to stop it in any position between fully upright and fully reclined one makes the power recline feature a must IMHO.

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Putting in my order tomorrow. Deposit down on the chairs until I finish up everything with my room. Hopefully by end of december ill be ready for them.

Decided on 3 curved Escapes. Sat in similar chairs at a local furniture store and the adjustable head rest is simply amazing.

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Thank you for your order, and I hope you will enjoy your chairs.

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I have to say don't order from Roman unless you like fast shipping and extremely prompt customer service/response to your questions!

Ordered a 4 chair set last week and received them today!

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I have to say don't order from Roman unless you like fast shipping and extremely prompt customer service/response to your questions!

Ordered a 4 chair set last week and received them today!

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I ordered 4 Fusion Escapes and they are being delivered on the 1st. They were ready to be delivered before I was!

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I ordered 4 Fusion Escapes and they are being delivered on the 1st. They were ready to be delivered before I was!
You're going to be very happy with your chairs. I went with the Streamline model because of the smaller footprint and love them. WAF is very high as well.
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I bought 4 Lagoon's in April of 2012 and 3 of the 4 have started to have the vinyl peel badly.

You would expect a little longer life out of them. 2 Of the head rests have peeled, and one of the seats. The one with the seat peeling gets sat in little to none as its just me and my son using the theater room 2x's a month.

Ahy thoughts Roman?
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According to industry standards bonded leather has about 5 years lifespan.

The longevity could depend on various factors:

* whether the room has temperature controlled environment
* how much the furniture is used and how
* hear oil and body sweat may effect the cover.

I am actually puzzled that with such low usage, and I assume no humidity in the room the cover started giving problems. We have shipped over 7000 chairs since we have started in 2011, and half of it was in bonded leather. i do nor see that many problems, and am wondering whether this particular batch was not as good as others...

At this point the only way to deal with it is replacing the cover.

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According to industry standards bonded leather has about 5 years lifespan.

The longevity could depend on various factors:

* whether the room has temperature controlled environment
* how much the furniture is used and how
* hear oil and body sweat may effect the cover.

I am actually puzzled that with such low usage, and I assume no humidity in the room the cover started giving problems. We have shipped over 7000 chairs since we have started in 2011, and half of it was in bonded leather. i do nor see that many problems, and am wondering whether this particular batch was not as good as others...

At this point the only way to deal with it is replacing the cover.
yes temp controlled-
can the covers be replaced by me or do I have to have upholstery shop do it?
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IF you are handy, and know what you are doing than you probably can, but in most cases the local upholstery shop is a better way to go.

For the seat it would be more efficient and easier to replace the whole chaise - cover with the foam inside.

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I bought 4 Lagoon's in April of 2012 and 3 of the 4 have started to have the vinyl peel badly.

You would expect a little longer life out of them. 2 Of the head rests have peeled, and one of the seats. The one with the seat peeling gets sat in little to none as its just me and my son using the theater room 2x's a month.

Ahy thoughts Roman?
You can add me to the list of owners with peeling bonded leather. My 4 5.5 year old escapes look very similar to yours. 2 of the chairs are peeling pretty bad on the seat and head rests. All of the chairs have a tleast 1 or 2 burnt out led lights on the controls. I replaced them all 2 years ago ( under warranty ) and they have burned out again. I should have never got the bonded leather. big mistake.

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Folks,

Whoever needs help with any parts of the chairs whether it is electronics, power components, covers, etc... contact me directly off line, and I will do my best to help you out and resolve any issues you may have.

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Looking for suggestion: When I received my chairs about 1 year ago, they had an issue with the packaging/shipment, and one seat has its leather "dented", see pictures. I thought after a few months, now 1 year, the "dent" would fade away but no luck...
Any suggestion or advice on how to potentially fix it?
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I have my home theater set with the exception of real home theater seats and some decor.

I have read numerous great reviews for Roman's products.

I can't remember if it was this thread or another where customers were willing to showcase the seats.

I am a little wary purchasing seats unseen as the majority of seats I try in the store are pretty uncomfortable and only some of the higher priced items are really very comfortable to sit in. I am an average build so not looking for anything crazy. Just my comfort level I guess.

Is anyone willing to perhaps showcase the seats that they have? I am in the Houston, TX area.

Thanks in advance!
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I have my home theater set with the exception of real home theater seats and some decor.

I have read numerous great reviews for Roman's products.

I can't remember if it was this thread or another where customers were willing to showcase the seats.

I am a little wary purchasing seats unseen as the majority of seats I try in the store are pretty uncomfortable and only some of the higher priced items are really very comfortable to sit in. I am an average build so not looking for anything crazy. Just my comfort level I guess.

Is anyone willing to perhaps showcase the seats that they have? I am in the Houston, TX area.

Thanks in advance!

Yeah, I was in your same boat (good HT seats being last thing my HT needed) and after months of debating and researching....I downed a adequate amount of beer and purchased my Roman Escape 1019s seats sight unseen. Glad I did, these babys are the best.

For what its worth.....I am about 215 lbs....6ft tall and the the Escape 1019s I got are very comfortable..not sink in and swallow me soft but not hard....just right for me.
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Yeah, I was in your same boat (good HT seats being last thing my HT needed) and after months of debating and researching....I downed a adequate amount of beer and purchased my Roman Escape 1019s seats sight unseen. Glad I did, these babys are the best.

For what its worth.....I am about 215 lbs....6ft tall and the the Escape 1019s I got are very comfortable..not sink in and swallow me soft but not hard....just right for me.
Thanks for the reply! I will see if anyone in my area might be willing. If not, I may need to pull out the beer. Ha!
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I have my home theater set with the exception of real home theater seats and some decor.

I have read numerous great reviews for Roman's products.

I can't remember if it was this thread or another where customers were willing to showcase the seats.

I am a little wary purchasing seats unseen as the majority of seats I try in the store are pretty uncomfortable and only some of the higher priced items are really very comfortable to sit in. I am an average build so not looking for anything crazy. Just my comfort level I guess.

Is anyone willing to perhaps showcase the seats that they have? I am in the Houston, TX area.

Thanks in advance!
Which area of Houston are you in? Houston is pretty spread out...

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Which area of Houston are you in? Houston is pretty spread out...
Houston is very big indeed. I am willing to travel anywhere in the Houston area.

I am in the Pearland area.
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I'm in Memphis, so can't help on that front, but I can echo the size story. I'm 6'7" and thanks to a most crappy year of business travel back up to 350lbs. The Fusion Jives are still pretty comfy for me at troll size. My feet hang off (but I doubt there's a recliner out there where that's not true), but still quite comfy and we've done some marathon movie watching sessions in there.

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Escape with different cup holder

Roman, Any thoughts on maybe offering the Escape with a cup holder like the streamline? I really can't see using the cup holder cooler but could really see using the USB port on the streamline style.

You can't have everything . . . Where would you put it?
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Ramrhein,

We will not be offering a different cup holder on Escape-1019s, and here are my thoughts about that:

1. The only reason we use the cup holder on Streamline-1017 that has a controllable light and built in USB is because we use a motorized lumbar support on this stye group, and the supplier of that feature would not offer any other cup holders but that one.
2. Lighting features on the chairs IMHO are pure marketing tricks, and bring no value whatsoever. Lighted cup holders are very distracting, and base rail lighting is even worse because as soon as you recline the front row of seating all your colors on the screen will be washed out, and the picture becomes unwatchable. Yes, it looks great when you want to impress your gusts, but you would want to turn it off as soon as you dim the lights to watch the movie.
3. The cup holders on Streamline-1017 (everyone out there is using those) have LEDs under the control buttons, and they cannot be turned off, and while it is arguable, some people find it distracting as well. The cup holder on the Escape-1019 chairs have a LOCK button, and when you press this button not only it would lock all the controls on the cup holder, so you cannot accidentally move the chair/headrest by placing your hand on the cup holder, it will also turn the LEDs off. When you want to readjust the reclining or headrest position you would press the lock button again, and this will release the controls and turn the LEDs back on for you to see where the controls are. Last but not least, but having the LEDs off you are increasing the longevity of the LEDs.
4. You do not need to use the cooler if you do not want to. It is has On/Off control.
5. On the Escape-1019 the USB port is located inside of the storage compartment on the front wall (up against the cup holder), so it is very easy to access, and also allows you to place your charging devise like 3D glasses inside of the storage compartment and leave it when you are not there eliminating any clutter...

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