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I'm not sure we will find out in more flashbacks.

I wondered that myself after seeing it.


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After what Gus did, my jaw dropped for 3-5 mins.

You mean kill somebody? You think he didn't do things like that?

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given what we know now, why did Gus decide to hire Walt to be in the lab? He already had Gale and obviously didnt care between 96% and 99% purity. And hiring walt would mean he'd have to have dealt with Jesse. So if Gale, alone, was able to provide a suitable product, why'd he hire Walt? Just to take a shot and get walt so Gale could learn the formula? Seems like an awful lot of trouble and expense ($3m) just for 3%

My guess is that Gale did not impress Gus with his professionalism. He seemed like an easily distracted guy that you couldn't leave alone for five minutes without him screwing something up. He couldn't even hold an opinion on whether 99% was really important for five seconds.

My question is why Gus showed him his operation and then let the dope run free. How could he know he wouldn't snitch to the authorities once he didn't get the job?

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My take is that Gale kept going on how close that 99% blue meth was to perfection. Gus saw that as a potential threat if it was so much better than what Gale was making.

Might as well get the best stuff on the market to eliminate any competition.

Even though I knew what Gus would do to that other guy, it was still terrifying how coldly he did it.

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I'm still surprised that scene was on cable tv. You don't see sh*t like that on a lotta rated R movies..
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I'm still surprised that scene was on cable tv. You don't see sh*t like that on a lotta rated R movies..

Apparently you haven't watched "The Walking Dead".
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Gale basically talked Gus into hiring Walt. That was the irony.

And that scene, in spite of the "intense violence" warning, deserved a TV-MA. It would surely not get a PG-13 from the MPAA. It was effective and chilling, and played for horrific reality. At the same time, it was almost surreal, as Gus was so cold and meticulous.

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You mean kill somebody? You think he didn't do things like that?

No, the way he did it.


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No, the way he did it.

???

He had the box cutter in his hands for like five minutes and spent another five minutes carefully suiting up for blood to splatter all over the place. I could see it coming when they not-so-subtly showed the box cutter in the flashback at the beginning of the episode.

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I suspect what convinced Gus to go with Hank was:

The added allure of a blue meth, which I as I recall already had a rep

A bit more purity

The nervous nerd factor with Gale

The natural attraction of one batsh## crazy to another



It's so good to have the series back again

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it's so good to have the series back again

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I knew a box-cutter would be in the episode as the episode always has something to do with the title.

I did not see him doing it to Victor in that way and so coldly though.

I'm very happy this series is back.


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I'm still surprised that scene was on cable tv. You don't see sh*t like that on a lotta rated R movies..

Breaking Bad has steadily been replacing dialog with violence. Walt was yakking all the time during the first season which showed what a flawed but fascinating character he was. Viewers aren't interested in that any more but are loving the "Whoa, dude!" scenes. This episode had more people staring at each other than talking. In fact most of this episode was people not talking to each other: Gus and Walt, Walt and Jesse, Hank and Marie, Mike and everyone he had a gun pointed at.

I expect they'll have at least one horrific death per episode this season. Look at the some of the upcoming episode titles: "Thirty Eight Snub", "Bullet Points", "Shotgun". Looks like show will be a summer bloodfest.

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I watched all 33 episodes of the series this past week and one thing that I was wondering was why does Skyler need to use the car wash to launder the money when she could just easily launder it through Ted Beneke's company...Ted is already cooking the books for his own reasons so why couldn't Skyler have just laundered Walt's illegal $$ through Ted's company?...plus she's already the bookeeper there as well...seems much simpler then buying a car wash

regarding the new season it seems that they really havn't killed off any 'major' character on the show in it's 3 seasons thus far...so I'm thinking that someone major will die this season (Jesse, Skyler or Hank)
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money when she could just easily launder it through Ted Beneke's company...Ted is already cooking the books for his own reasons so why couldn't Skyler have just laundered Walt's illegal $$ through Ted's company?

Not that simple. It requires a business with a lot of cash coming in every day, like retail shops (and car washes). High volume cash sales is required. That's why Gus has a chain of restaurants. So you can show sales on the books that didn't occur. Even then there are limits. For example, Gus has to be buying enough food and supplies to justify the sales he shows on the books. A car wash needs to be using enough water and soap to justify the sales on the books, etc. Beneke's business is almost useless for laundering.

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regarding the new season it seems that they really havn't killed off any 'major' character on the show in it's 3 seasons thus far...so I'm thinking that someone major will die this season (Jesse, Skyler or Hank)

I vote for Hank killing himself, and/or Walt taking over Gus's drug trade and killing Gus. The show's creators often say that they want Walt to become Scarface, and he's a long way from that. I'm sure that Gus is now realizing that Walt is becoming a real threat.
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Not that simple. It requires a business with a lot of cash coming in every day, like retail shops (and car washes). High volume cash sales is required. That's why Gus has a chain of restaurants. So you can show sales on the books that didn't occur. Even then there are limits. For example, Gus has to be buying enough food and supplies to justify the sales he shows on the books. A car wash needs to be using enough water and soap to justify the sales on the books, etc. Beneke's business is almost useless for laundering.

I'm no expert on money laundering but isn't Beneke's company some sort of fabrication business?...and won't he have much more cash earnings versus a car wash?...yes he probably won't have the day-to-day sales of a car wash but as long as he has enough income to cover the illegal $$ he should be good to go...I'm sure his fabrication business nets him more $$ then a car wash

plus if they ever get caught Skyler could just blame the whole thing on Ted lol...I'm sure Walt would be more then happy to see Ted go to jail (especially since he found out that Ted was fooling around with his wife)...either way it was just something that stood out to me while watching the old episodes
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I got into this great series through the blu-rays and am caught up to the current season. But, after watching last night on the DirecTV standard def channel, I'm not sure I can watch the show this way. What are my alternatives? I can't wait another year for the blu-rays. I don't want to cancel DirecTV although I understand that a mass cancellation, because of this reason, is probably the only way they will add AMC-HD at this point.

Any suggestions on how/where to watch this show in hd?
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Any suggestions on how/where to watch this show in hd?

Amazon on Demand?...I think the HD feed per episode is $1.99
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Any suggestions on how/where to watch this show in hd?

If you buy the season pass, HD on Amazon is $2.89 per episode and you own it forever. I agree that AMC's SD feed is pathetic.
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I'm no expert on money laundering but isn't Beneke's company some sort of fabrication business?...and won't he have much more cash earnings versus a car wash?...yes he probably won't have the day-to-day sales of a car wash but as long as he has enough income to cover the illegal $$ he should be good to go...I'm sure his fabrication business nets him more $$ then a car wash

He has little or no cash sales at all. "Cash" means real money handed from one person to another. Ted's business appears to be all invoiced, no good for laundering. Cash is the only thing that leaves no trail to follow.
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I agree that AMC's SD feed is pathetic.

most of AMC's programs in HD aren't all that great either (Walking Dead, The Killing)...Breaking Bad is the first AMC show that actually looks really good in HD (cable)
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He has little or no cash sales at all. "Cash" means real money handed from one person to another. Ted's business appears to be all invoiced, no good for laundering. Cash is the only thing that leaves no trail to follow.

It also helps if the transaction is a service that leaves no evidence. Laundromats, arcades and casinos have traditionally been the best since you have strangers walking in, leaving their cash, and walking out with no record of a transaction happening. It's nearly impossible to prove how much real money they're making.

The laser tag place isn't a bad idea. It's hard to sit in the parking lot and know that the big windowless building isn't really making any money. The car wash isn't such a good idea because it's much harder to scale it up to your illegal income and if it's idle, it's obviously not making any money.

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most of AMC's programs in HD aren't all that great either (Walking Dead, The Killing)...Breaking Bad is the first AMC show that actually looks really good in HD (cable)

It looks and sounds great on BD too. I suspect this has more to do with budget and the production team than it does with AMC. OTOH, the crappy SD feed on cable and sat has everything to do with AMC.
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Last night's Breaking Bad was an all time all timer, which is saying a lot for a show as consistently excellent as Breaking Bad has been. I am loving the recently exposed dynamic between Walt and Gus. Each knows that the other is just as smart and just as ruthless as he himself is. It's really chilling. Why do I think that Walt is going to decide that he has to get rid of Gus before Gus gets rid of him?

Whose house did Skyler con the locksmith into letting her in and where did the baby come from? I know I should probably know but the simple truth is, I don't have a clue.
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Whose house did Skyler con the locksmith into letting her in and where did the baby come from? I know I should probably know but the simple truth is, I don't have a clue.

it was the apartment Walt was renting after Skyler kicked him out of the house...the baby is her daughter Holly

I didn't think the tension in that lab scene was as great as some people seem to think only because we knew that Walt and/or Jesse was not going to be killed off the show...plus they telegraphed Victor's death earlier when Mike asked if anyone had seen Victor at the crime scene...it was fairly obvious Victor was the one who was going to be made an example of...plus AMC aired a 'Warning' message during the commercial break (right before that scene) which stated that a violent scene was coming up (dumb move by AMC)

the scene was still great with Gus silently walking around the lab but Breaking Bad has had many better scenes ('One Minute' being the best example)
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most of AMC's programs in HD aren't all that great either (Walking Dead, The Killing)...Breaking Bad is the first AMC show that actually looks really good in HD (cable)

There's also Mad Men, although it's mostly shot on sets with flat lighting and little camera motion.

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There's also Mad Men, although it's mostly shot on sets with flat lighting and little camera motion.

the great thing about Breaking Bad is their New Mexico location shots and cinematography...in last night's premiere they had a great timelapse shot of a freeway transitioning from night to day...their use of colors is also amazing...the outside shots in BB look really crisp and detailed...the indoor shots aren't as great but the outdoor stuff more then makes up for it
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I expect they'll have at least one horrific death per episode this season. Look at the some of the upcoming episode titles: "Thirty Eight Snub", "Bullet Points", "Shotgun". Looks like show will be a summer bloodfest.

We can only hope.......LOL
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regarding the new season it seems that they really havn't killed off any 'major' character on the show in it's 3 seasons thus far...so I'm thinking that someone major will die this season (Jesse, Skyler or Hank)

We can only hope.....Part II LOL
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'Breaking Bad' Breaks Ratings Records in Season Four Premiere

Great to see good numbers posted by this excellent show. Definitely my favorite show now.
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