Originally Posted by archiguy
I wasn't intending a literal comparison with Scarface, just expanding the metaphor. Sf is a caricature of a man with no moral compass and unbridled, untempered ambition. Walt will never go there, not completely. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the show ends - and it needs to be allowed to conclude on its own terms - with Walt making one last gesture that shows he's still Walt, not Heisenberg. I expect to see a glorious death, and one that involves the ultimate sacrifice to save his loved ones. I also smell another Emmy for Mr. Cranston.
Hey, fair enough.
I will disagree about this, but it's just speculation on our parts, but hey, that's part of the fun of discussing this show, isn't it?
I think Walt's more down-to-earth personality being subsumed into Walt's alter ego Heisenberg is what Gilligan meant to explore from the beginning. How can we, as writers, take this milquetoast, bland, ordinary middle-aged, middle class guy, and turn him into a ruthless, calculating, drug lord? And won't the journey be fun?
Where I disagree with you is that there will be any kind of redemption for Walt. I think that's a cop out. Why? Well, for it to play out like the tragedy it is, Walt's gotta pay for his...transgressions. He's already paid a lot, but ultimately he's going to pay by losing at least someone, if not more than one someone, who is very close to him -- family. It may be Hank, or Skyler, or even Walt, Jr. (but I doubt that Walt, Jr. will die). Ultimately, near the end of the series, it may be Jesse, his surrogate son. I think Walt has to pay with insufferable guilt, knowing that he is responsible for the death of a family member, even if it's his surrogate son Jesse. That may be especially poignant, as Walt is the only "family" Jesse has left.
I think we will see Walt suffer the emotional and psychic pain and guilt from that in the last episode or two, and then I think Walt will pay with his life, whether at his own hand (it's possible), someone else's hand (even by Hank's, in a BIL to BIL, but criminal vs. cop shootout), or because his cancer finally catches up to him and has the last laugh. I'm guessing he will die by the sword, however, but not before he endures terrible suffering from guilt and personal loss.
I think redemption is not part of the plan. Then again, the plan could change in mid-flight, so who knows?
Anyway, I very much agree with you that the show will go out on its own terms, or at least that's what Gilligan intends. I read recently that he said he would like to state publicly an ending date or target date, once they determine when that should be. I'm guessing it will end after 5 seasons and no more. I don't think anyone connected with the creative part of the show wants to see it overstay its welcome. It's far from that stage, but you can sort of feel that probably one more season is the limit.
I'll be eagerly watching all along the way, with all the other devoted fans of this outstanding show (BTW, I'd like to see Giancarlo Esposito get an Emmy too).