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post #61 of 74 Old 12-15-2014, 06:53 AM
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I'd say because of Joe Buck, but that's just why is sounds bad
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Both the Green Bay game and the Vikings game today on FOX were the usual garbage PQ. OTA watching KMSP in Minneapolis.

Wow. I haven't watched much NFL this season, especially on Fox. I was shocked at how bad the picture quality was for the GB/Buffalo game. It looked like SD. What's the deal?
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Seattle-49ers game was just terrible PQ. This was ota . Very close to sd in my opinion.
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Seattle-49ers game was just terrible PQ. This was ota . Very close to sd in my opinion.
Agree on the PQ, I was also watching OTA. Fox or not Fox, the Seahawks synthetic also adversely impacts the PQ, the black rubber pellets showing through the green give the the field a dull, dirty look.

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We had the "Johnny Football" game on FOX, horrible PQ (OTA KFOX TV), it also didn't help both teams wearing a lot of orange sometimes you lost who had the ball!

The feeds from Fox to the Mexican Channel that does its own version of Redzone is also bad, you can tell when the games are on FOX w/o the logo, way less clear, darker, fuzzier, etc.

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Wow. I haven't watched much NFL this season, especially on Fox. I was shocked at how bad the picture quality was for the GB/Buffalo game. It looked like SD. What's the deal?
I am not sure what was going on, but I had access to two different OTA feeds (WPB and Miami). Miami looked like stair stepping SD crap. The WPB feed was actually pretty good. The SF/Sea game was pretty good on both feeds. Of course, Fox is way sub par to NBC and CBS.

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720P sucks. Fox football has always looked like crap. The wacky idea that 720P is better for sports was circa 2004 lunacy. The NFL in 1080i is spectacular as is car racing, tennis, golf and every other sport.

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Are they still using the splicer?
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720P sucks. Fox football has always looked like crap. The wacky idea that 720P is better for sports was circa 2004 lunacy. The NFL in 1080i is spectacular as is car racing, tennis, golf and every other sport.
If you want to see it even worse watch college football on ABC - for some reason they have the worst PQ even though ESPN usually looks decent.
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If you want to see it even worse watch college football on ABC - for some reason they have the worst PQ even though ESPN usually looks decent.
Very true. In fact, watch anything on ABC. It indeed sucks worse than FOX.
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I remember when Mark Cubans HD.Net did college football. Excellent picture quality.You could see the mesh of the players uniform clearly,and individual blades of grass.I believe he had a contract with satellite company too have HD.net shown with very little compression . Back then this was possible.
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If you want to see it even worse watch college football on ABC - for some reason they have the worst PQ even though ESPN usually looks decent.
Because the local affiliate does whatever they want to the signal. My ABC affiliate now converts it to 1080i for some bizzaro reason, and gives it around 12 Mbps MPEG-2. It looks terrible. FOX is far superior, although their college games are usually really noisy (and I don't just mean Gus Johnson).
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HD Net, and CBS OTA, [with 0 Subs] we're the clear quality standard. That's when most HD channels popped when you clicked them on.
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