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I'd imagine it was difficult for just about anybody to watch. Same with chickens and cows.

Rather just see it neatly packaged.
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Not a good episode if you like whales but the JP did the Sea shepherds a huge favor in killing them in front of them, allowing it all to be videotaped and seen on national tv. This one episode alone did more for their cause than anything they have done in the last 30 years. I think you all are looking past their main objective. I'm sure they know they can not stop whaling no matter what they do while they are out there harassing them. Notice the word harassing! But the more people they get on their side, the more chance of stopping this becomes a reality and I think they are accomplishing that ten fold with the help of the Animal Planet network being used as their set of eyes to convey this message into the homes of millions. Yes some want them to fight back and die or their cowards but they are smarter than you think. My daughter cried last night while watching this, I don't like to see my daughter cry. Enough said!


I'm assuming your daughter is a vegatarian. Honestly, we harvest all kinds of animals from the sea for our eating enjoyment. I spent some time on and around farms, raising cattle etc...the Japanese whalers are just doing their job...and the little SS ship isn't going to stop them.

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I can't say that I even recall hearing music and the shots of the crews reactions just got a "what did you expect ?" from me. That said, the video and the helicopter pilot's "narration" and back-and-forth with the camera operator was "strong" enough and all that was necessary for me. Given that the SS folks are very passionate about this cause, it had to be difficult for "Chris" to keep the helicopter there and watch it all.

Yeah, they had that "sympathetic" music playing, I noticed it.

And the helicopter pilot may be the smartest one of the group. He doesn't let his emotions get the best of him, it's always about safety to him. Like last week we he bitched about Paul firing the flares over the ship when he was in the area, not very smart.

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I'm assuming your daughter is a vegatarian. Honestly, we harvest all kinds of animals from the sea for our eating enjoyment. I spent some time on and around farms, raising cattle etc...the Japanese whalers are just doing their job...and the little SS ship isn't going to stop them.

Don't forget, Paul isn't a vegetarian either, hell, he even eats fish.

I read about a time when Paul had his crew trying to sabotage a fishing line, and there were some squid stuck in the nets. The crew were trying to free the squid, and Paul had them bring a few on-board for the chef to cook for dinner. Funny stuff indeed.

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Don't forget, Paul isn't a vegetarian either, hell, he even eats fish.

I read about a time when Paul had his crew trying to sabotage a fishing line, and there were some squid stuck in the nets. The crew were trying to free the squid, and Paul had them bring a few on-board for the chef to cook for dinner. Funny stuff indeed.

I've always wondered if the crew on the Deadliest Catch eat some of the smaller crab?

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I'm assuming your daughter is a vegatarian. Honestly, we harvest all kinds of animals from the sea for our eating enjoyment. I spent some time on and around farms, raising cattle etc...the Japanese whalers are just doing their job...and the little SS ship isn't going to stop them.

No she isn't. She is a regular viewer of this channel though and volunteers at animal shelters 3 times a week. The point I brought her into the conversation for was that the episode had the desired effect they were hoping for.

I believe though when it comes to the ocean, whales and dolphins should be off limits because they are both mammals and share a lot of characteristics that us humans do, everything else is fair game. Hell, fish is my favorite food and I would not tell anyone to stop eating it, besides, it is also good for you!
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Cows are mammals also.
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Cows are mammals also.

True. But cows are domesticated herd animals specifically raised for food. And they're not endangered. Plus, it's my understanding that cows pretty much have mush for brains. Whereas Whales are highly intelligent.

I eat both beef and fish.

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True. But cows are domesticated herd animals specifically raised for food. And they're not endangered. Plus, it's my understanding that cows pretty much have mush for brains. Whereas Whales are highly intelligent.

I eat both beef and fish.

Plus cows burp like hundreds of times a day and it is bad for the ozone.

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The Minke whale isn't endangered either.
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Plus cows burp like hundreds of times a day and it is bad for the ozone.

I love Chik-fil-a.

Yeah, they're pretty good too.

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The Minke whale isn't endangered either.

For now.

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True. But cows are domesticated herd animals specifically raised for food. And they're not endangered. Plus, it's my understanding that cows pretty much have mush for brains. Whereas Whales are highly intelligent.

I eat both beef and fish.

If they are so smart...dont get near boats.
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If they are so smart...dont get near boats.

I don't think "Stay away from the Nisan Maru (sp)" is a born trait of theirs.

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Im saying in general....get away from boats. If someone chases after you...go the other way. lol...nevermind.
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Damn. It was funny to see one of the SS guys get a new one ripped by the water cannon in the beginning of the vid. Really just too dangerous.


They'd come out better getting a bunch of ships and just making a wall around them. The parallel of the little brother and sister and the whole I'm not touching you thing.
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Out of all the dumb things they have done, that is probably the dumbest thing I've seen them do.
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Out of all the dumb things they have done, that is probably the dumbest thing I've seen them do.

But they have plenty of time to show us even a higher level of stupidity.

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Pretty much made that water canon useless. Of course, I don't know if that was the intent... or just dumb luck on Watson's part.

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Pretty much made that water canon useless. Of course, I don't know if that was the intent... or just dumb luck on Watson's part.

No it didn't. As soon as the ships separated, the water cannon started "shooting" the SS crew members. Speaking of those water cannons, are they remotely-operated ? I don't see people operating them.
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No it didn't. As soon as the ships separated, the water cannon started "shooting" the SS crew members. Speaking of those water cannons, are they remotely-operated ? I don't see people operating them.

My point was that the cannon was rendered useless while the ships were that close to each other, so the Sea Shepherds could get a butyric acid attack off. Of course once the two ships parted, the cannon was able to spray the Steve Irwin's deck again.

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Out of all the dumb things they have done, that is probably the dumbest thing I've seen them do.

Why? Lots of folks here kept saying they were not aggressive enough and they lacked courage and were not willing to risk their lives. But this move pretty much puts those arguments to rest because I don't see anything more dangerous they could do other than this maneuver. I guess they really do believe in their cause, contrary to what some others say here.
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If they are so smart...dont get near boats.

Heh heh, that reminded me again of Cartman's little speech about dolphins.

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Plus, it's my understanding that cows pretty much have mush for brains. Whereas Whales are highly intelligent.

How far do you take your "The dumb deserve to die" philosophy?
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How far do you take your "The dumb deserve to die" philosophy?

Well, now that you mention it...

Actually, I think natural selection takes care of a lot of that. I see Darwin award winners in the news almost every day.

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Actually, I think natural selection takes care of a lot of that. I see Darwin award winners in the news almost every day.

But that's offset by things like flame retardant pajamas.
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