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You people expect way too much from these folks. Your absolutely right some have no business being there but this is no ordinary job of what their trying to do and Capt Watson must take what he can get. Very few people have "am anti-whaling expert and can perform in a dangerous environment" on their resumes. I thought it was quite moving how the school teacher knew he had screwed up and became emotional knowing he had let his students down. This has been a tough season for them no doubt, and I'm sure they didn't want all these setbacks to happen but they do not operate under normal circumstances and unforeseen incidents should be expected, it's how and if they can overcome them that is most important. Even if they are not successful, the desire to keep trying is still there and that is all that matters if you have any sympathy for whales surviving on this planet which many viewers of this channel I'm sure do.
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They should save the dolphins as well while they are at it. Japanese eat them too.
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Wow. I just finished last night's new episode and wow. I mean seriously... I'm not a sailor and I can tell you don't start a prop in rocky shallow water. Honestly, I am wondering if there is something in their all vegan food that is clouding their judgment. This is beyond the point of coincidence... there has to be some fumes leaking or lack of protein or something causing all of these poor choices.

This is the first episode where instead of laughing at the screw ups, I am seriously worried about some sort of brain disease. They need to get MRIs or something.
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I now think the animal rights or anti-whaling people should step up their $$$ donations so that SS can hire and pay professionals or semi-professionals for this work. This televised season has been a disaster. It also shows that Animal Planet has a lot of say in what's shown and that they aren't portraying SS as "perfect". They could edit out all of the "bad" stuff, of course.
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They could edit out all of the "bad" stuff, of course.

What would be left to show?
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Maybe this is their new tactic, showing how hard the jobs that they do are, showing the difficulties they run into... Yeah, that's what they're doing this year !! Seriously though, they've "harassed" the Japanese once so far ? Or maybe it's been twice, once by the Ady Gil and once by the Bob Barker (?).
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"We've increased the violence against ourselves this season to show how dedicated we are to the whales!"

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The Sea Shepherd (aka Sea Pirates) strategy and brain power reminds me of a Star Trek episode of the dim-witted alien-race- I had to google it (Samaritan Snare 1989). They couldn't achieve anything without acquiring things from others. Their motto was "we need things, things that make us go."
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Dey took R Geordy Laforge captive!!!

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The Sea Shepherd (aka Sea Pirates) strategy and brain power reminds me of a Star Trek episode of the dim-witted alien-race- I had to google it (Samaritan Snare 1989). They couldn't achieve anything without acquiring things from others. Their motto was "we need things, things that make us go."

Really. That is your comparison. A fictional TV show to a real life experience. Kind of says it all, doesn't it!

So should they do go down to the local Rent A Center and shop the Anti-whaling dept?
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Yeah, it illustrates what putz the SS are...there was even a ST episode that makes a good parody of it. They are THAT bad at what they do.

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Why wouldn't they know of an impending storm? Suddenly they are in a position to lose $200K worth of equipment and they are shocked that the storm came up so quickly. It seems they have pretty sophisticated equipment on those ships. In fact, the preview shows them using said equipment to predict the weather they are about to steer into.
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I thought they mentioned they could try and avoid the storm or go into it, thinking the Japanese won't follow them, and therefore they could lose the whaler's "spy" ship.
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I was thinking about the gale force winds they found themselves in while the speed boats were tethered to the ships. They should have had at least some notice. Any competent crewmember would have had some inkling that there was trouble coming.
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Why didn't they just say, "The weather stops today!" then wait for it to calm down?
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Does anyone else think those inflatable boats at 100k is ludicrous in price? Just seems like a bit much for those.

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Does anyone else think those inflatable boats at 100k is ludicrous in price? Just seems like a bit much for those.

Agreed, I don't think those inflatables cost that much. With dual-outboards, I can see them going for around $20k, but they aren't anything special. I haven't noticed any radar on them either, so I have no idea what would jack up the price.

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I looked it up. A 12-person Zodiak Pro costs between $20k and $30k.

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Priced any huge salt water rated outboards lately?

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Priced any huge salt water rated outboards lately?

I don't remember if they had dual outboards or not. Regardless, a 225Hp saltwater outboard goes for about $13k.

So I guess if both inflatables had dual outboards, and both were totally destroyed, that could add up to a total of $100k.

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I thought they indicated that the one inflatable had radar because they used it to locate the 2nd inflatable. The 2nd one may have had it too.
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If it has radar, I bet they always forget to turn it on!

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I don't remember if they had dual outboards or not. Regardless, a 225Hp saltwater outboard goes for about $13k.

So I guess if both inflatables had dual outboards, and both were totally destroyed, that could add up to a total of $100k.

I've seen prices closer to 20K, for higher HP models. Lots of variables. Regardless, they aren't cheap and when you start outfitting a boat, things add up quick. Ask me how I know.

I will say that starting that boat up in rocky shallow water was one of the dumbest things I've seen lately.

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I've seen prices closer to 20K, for higher HP models. Lots of variables. Regardless, they aren't cheap and when you start outfitting a boat, things add up quick. Ask me how I know.

I will say that starting that boat up in rocky shallow water was one of the dumbest things I've seen lately.

I was actually surprised at them costing in the $13k area. Hell, I didn't even know there was a difference between saltwater and freshwater motors. Shows what I know.

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I found I was asking myself... Why don't they just hook a rope up from the other Zodiac and tow the beached one out from the rocks?

I guess that would have made too much sense for these clowns.

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I found I was asking myself... Why don't they just hook a rope up from the other Zodiac and tow the beached one out from the rocks?

Because they realized tying a rope to it is what got them in that predicament in the first place ?

In all seriousness about these boats, none that I saw at this site, http://www.zodiacmarineusa.com/, look like what they have. Dare I say it, theirs look more "professional" or military-like. I did see a "Zodiac Pro" that mentions saving up to $47,000 on certain models, so they must be way up there in price !! Then I found this site, http://www.zodiacmilpro.com/. Without knowing any real details on the SS Zodiacs, it's hard to find something comparable on that site.
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No doubt, towing it out of/off of the rocks would have been too easy. We must f'up something for the cameras.

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No doubt, towing it out of/off of the rocks would have been too easy. We must f'up something for the cameras.

LOL! It certainly seems that way sometimes.

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It always seems to be telegraphed on this show (either incidentally or intentional editing) that something is about to get "broke" by showing how useful and effective it is in scenes just before it gets broke.

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Really. That is your comparison. A fictional TV show to a real life experience. Kind of says it all, doesn't it!

So should they do go down to the local Rent A Center and shop the Anti-whaling dept?

I don't think many could compare those knuckleheads to anything in the real world. Face it, the curtains are falling on your hapless SS soulmates.
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