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Got the glasses, and 4 guys coming for the game. How do we know which commercials are 3D ?
End of 2nd quarter ?
Does the mean when the game goes to Halftime, that next commercial break ?
Is it 1,2,3 commercials, and that's it, then we put the glasses away ?


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End of second quarter - wait for the prompt which I'm sure will precede the 3D commercial block.
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Got the glasses, and 4 guys coming for the game. How do we know which commercials are 3D ?
End of 2nd quarter ?
Does the mean when the game goes to Halftime, that next commercial break ?
Is it 1,2,3 commercials, and that's it, then we put the glasses away ?

You'll see some kind of alert after the 2nd quarter ends.

Although it's not official, I believe we'll see three clips; Sobe, Monsters vs. Aliens, Chuck.

I've got my glasses on now. Between that and the Zing Zang bloodys, it gives me a unique Super Bowl perspective.......

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HEB gave me a dozen of them just before midnite last nite. There was a demo during the pregame show but I was still cutting out the glasses. Without the glassas the picture was almost unwatchable. Kinda like an analog TV with double image.
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I went to like 6 big chain stores in my area (including Target and Walmart) and I couldn't find a single one with the glasses. Not even a display. I got tired of looking.

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Found mine in the beer section of the local Food Lion. In a large Monsters vs Aliens cardboard stand near the SoBe section in flat sheets of four. The stand was facing the rear wall so if you hadn't been looking around for beer or searching for the glasses there is no way you would stumble across them.

Probably why they had almost a full stand full of them.




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Damn that was horrible!

Only a vaguely 3D effect at the best of times and the blue filter made my right vision just uncomfortably blurred.


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Looks to me like 3D hasn't progressed very much
If this is the future of TV...count me out.
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That was 3D?

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That was 3D?

When those objects like the ball and knife were "flying out of the screen" the closer they got to the foreground the less recognizable they were. On a still image the blue and yellow frames of the knife are not even close to synching correctly.

I ripped the filters off and taped them to my glasses and it was slightly improved over the tiny viewing holes in the cardboard frames. And by slightly I mean that in the nano sense.


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Look at green objects or grass after taking them off. They really mess with color perception of your eyes. Until that changes wearing the glasses is a poor implementation of 3D. Get it to where the naked eye can see 3D and that is realistic. Fooling the eyes with color changes in this manner is perceptive annoyance.

I have used the anaglyph glasses on PC games like WOW and have gotten the same or better affect and that is not even really 3D.

Epic fail. And someone had them delivered UPS. Maybe he can call UPS and have them returned. Oh the humanity. !!
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Barring a few things in the Monsters commercial.. I thought the ad after looked better. I will say the few times Monsters did the cliched lots of objects falling it looked quite better than I can recall from color differential 3D in the past.
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I was looking forward to this all week, but was disappointed by the result.

The colors just looked wrong, which is somewhat to be expected, but it was too distracting. The effects with the bouncing ball and the line up of the marching aliens looked good, but for most of the shots the color shifts and color-ringing only added to the muddy-looking picture.

Three things did improve it a little: Putting the 3D glasses inside my regular glasses instead of on the outside, adjusting the colors of my projector so that some of the color ringing went away, and turning up the brightness of the projector.

I guess if this is the best 3D technology has to offer, you can count me out. Maybe if they can get the 3D LCD shutter glasses working it will be worth it.

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The glasses really didn't do a lot for objects coming 'at you' but I thought they did a wonderful job at showing 3D 'depth'

The SoBe commercial was a lot better in my mind though for the 3D stuff.

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I wasn't very impressed. Other than the sobe commercial (and that wasn't great) I wasn't that into it. I got the blurry vision that everyone was talking about. I just think that a properly set up display with a decent looking movie can get almost the same effect.

This Monsters vs Aliens is a Dreamworks animation and those, along with Pixar, are already great looking movies. No need to try to "fix" them or improve dramatically as this.

Until they can get up to the level of the "Bugs Life" attraction at Disney's Animal Kindom, I think I'll pass. If they can do that on a mass scale, count me in. No way I could sit through 2 hours of a movie like what was just shown.


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The best TV 3D I've seen in the last few years was during the early days of PBS HD and they were running their flyover shots of landscape.

On my old 36" Sony HD CRT those shots had real looking out of a window depth.


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is NBC doing DD 5.1 audio?
my receiver is not showing 5.1 audio being broadcasted


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is NBC doing DD 5.1 audio?
my receiver is not showing 5.1 audio being broadcasted

Yes it has been 5.1 throughout the broadcast and day for me. What is your affiliate/provider?
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Opps nevermind.. i just checked.. i had the wrong input selected on my Audio receiver


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I watched on WMAQ-DT as well and had the 5.1 throughout.
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NBC has the worst audio on the planet. Snap, crackle, pop every day of the week since I went digital early 2004.
Cashier at HEB had glasses. Had to ask for them, no display.
Should have tested the glasses first because I spent the entire commercial trying to adjust brightness an contrast. Then had to reset everything afterwards. Never again.
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3D for TV is not ready for primetime (or any other time).

I was hoping this might be better than the time Medium did their 3D episode...but no.

Don't have great hopes for Chuck tomorrow, but I'll give it a go.
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check out...

www.colorcode3d.com

for some pretty decent pictures... There's a one of a woman's chest too which is nice

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The Monsters movie trailer was really cool in 3D. I couldn't really tell in the Sobe and Chuck commercials. Maybe it's because I wear glasses?
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check out...

www.colorcode3d.com

for some pretty decent pictures... There's a one of a woman's chest too which is nice

I did actually yesterday and that got my hopes up. Those still shots and the short videos looked pretty good. Not sure why the SB clips were so bad.
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I did actually yesterday and that got my hopes up. Those still shots and the short videos looked pretty good. Not sure why the SB clips were so bad.

HQ images shown on a compter have a far wider color range and are shown in true RGB displays most of the time. So well made red & cyan and ColorCode anaglyphic images on the net will always look better than their video counterparts.

A lot has to do with how color is handled in consumer analog and digital delivery formats.

Analog video only devotes a small portion to the color bandwidth. Ditto for digital. The color in ATSC HDTV is 4:1:1 digital. While being component in nature and therefore has a huge advantage over composite analog, it only gets 25% of the space the b&w information gets. That is normally a very acceptable compromise for color 2-D video, but it hurts anaglyph 3-D. Then try to do full color images that are suppose to look correct looking through colored gels. There are tweaks that do help a little, but there's no way to have 100% correct natural color with anaglyph. B&W encoded anaglyph works far better, but then you're losing one enhancement (color) for another (3-D).

Anaglyph 3-D is also what I call a fragile format, if the colors are slightly off on your display device, or there's something even slightly degrades the color signal, anaglyph suffers.

Once you break away from anaglyph (using colored lens - be they red & cyan or amber/blue) and use one of the more advanced 3-D video formats like field-sequential, Sensio, dual stream, etc, these factors are no longer an issue. The CEA and SMPTE have groups studying these advanced 3-D video formats and will each recommend a universal advanced standard.
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^^ IMO get 3D to work without glasses and it is game on. I don't care if 100 million pairs went out and people used them for a one time "gimmick". While the technology can become mainstream wearing the glasses on a regular basis will not.
It is not the tech or how it looks that is an issue, it is the glasses. Right now with glasses one's perception is changed. CHange the reality and you have a winner.
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