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His name is Sam, played by Arjun Gupta.
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Oh no, You really think she's going to spend the gift money on drugs? You could be right, if she uses the money for her daughter's education, Kevin will find out possibly.

She specifically told O'Hara that she wanted to put it into a special account and draw money out "as needed". She's thinking and acting like an addict now. With that much money available for drugs, it does not look good for Jackie.
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Oh yeah, that's right. Darn.
We (the viewers) did not see the amount of the check, did we? Unless if it was covered in a previous episode.
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Oh yeah, that's right. Darn.
We (the viewers) did not see the amount of the check, did we? Unless if it was covered in a previous episode.

We saw her previous month's CC statement for something like $500 in drugs. My assumption was that the check would be in the 5-figure range, but if it's for college too, 6 figures is not out of the question.
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Seems pretty evident that Jackie is headed for a train wreck at home. Pretty much every episode they give us something new to not like about her.

Yes, I'm starting to dislike her more and more, which is a good thing wrt the show.

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We saw her previous month's CC statement for something like $500 in drugs. My assumption was that the check would be in the 5-figure range, but if it's for college too, 6 figures is not out of the question.

I thought the check she just got was for private school tuition. Hard to say how big a check she would write. Since she can't set up a trust fund for the kids without Kevin knowing, she may just "pay as needed".

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Uh oh. What is Jackie doing!

Faking a major health issue with those X-Rays to get a prescription from her best friend. That's going to make O'Hara pissed off. O'Hara already made a fool out of her self by storming into the X-Ray department.

Then, Jackie bluntly pick pockets and steals drugs from a man who's down on the ground, having a seizure.
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Yup she's pure addict now, quickly moving from being a functioning addict to a non-functioning addict. It's all downhill from here. The only question is whether she'll have any friends or family left when it's all done.
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It will be interesting to see where it all leads. I'm assuming there's another season coming.

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Yeah, hard to believe the season is over, seems like we got more last year. NOt sure I like where it's headed.


Well at least i can drop Showtime for HBO and "True Blood" for a month or so before "Weeds" starts up again.
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Yeah, hard to believe the season is over, seems like we got more last year. NOt sure I like where it's headed.


Well at least i can drop Showtime for HBO and "True Blood" for a month or so before "Weeds" starts up again.

The season isn't over yet. There are still 2 more episodes.
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I was a little concerned myself. I went to imdb and found out there is still 2 more episodes.
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No, I was aware of 2 more episodes, it just feels like so much more happened last year. True, we got to know Jacki last year and there was a lot of character building and exposition, but while I've enjoyed the season it seems like not much advanced.
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Coop did it again, spreading gossip around the hospital about the personal lives of staff. (Coop telling Eddie how he's sleeping with Sam's girlfriend.)

We'll see how it all comes crashing down next week, for the season finale.
Kevin was pissed when he found out Jackie took O'Hara's money.
The guy that Jackie saved 2 weeks ago, came back to the office looking for Jackie, to thank her. I wonder if he will mention the stolen/lost drugs?

I wonder what's going to happen with Zoey and her 'boyfriend.'
If they're actually going to make it "official" Seems like they've been going back and fourth this whole season.
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If they take it one way where Jackie is "found out", what's left? The other characters are in full swing but a "clean" Jackie probably isn't going to cut it.

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If they take it one way where Jackie is "found out", what's left? The other characters are in full swing but a "clean" Jackie probably isn't going to cut it.

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I'm not sure. I think the show is well written enough to make it with a "clean" Jackie. Of course, getting clean is a process and doesn't happen over-night. They can take it almost anywhere, even have Jackie get thrown out of her house, lose her friends, etc. I don't see it working if she loses her job though.
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I don't see it working if she loses her job though.

Agreed.
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The money thing and lying with Kevin can be patched up quite easily. And, just because O'Hara knows about the fake MRI doesn't mean she'll blow the whistle. The show can really take an interesting turn if Jackie has to go to the street for drugs, however Eddie is back, so... I guess we'll have to wait and see.

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The guy that Jackie saved 2 weeks ago, came back to the office looking for Jackie, to thank her. I wonder if he will mention the stolen/lost drugs?

Wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic but I'm pretty sure he didn't really show up to thank her but to find out where all his 'Oxy' is. I would imagine that large an amount would be worth a lot of money not to mention he probably risked his career getting it in the first place.
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I was not being sarcastic.
This is true, he lost a lot of money.
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Just in passing, I felt the best line of the night came through Zoe (again... not surprisingly), when she reacted to learning that the couple needing urgent care after getting off the plane were Irish.

Zoe does her imitation of "avast, ye mate-eys" shtick as kind of a joke on stereotypical Irish accents and the girl responds "we're Irish, not pirates!". Zoe is suitably put down.


Second best sequence... Coop confesses to Eddie that he's sleeping with Sam's girlfriend, and then Sam comes in to get some pills and confesses to Eddie that he thinks something's going on with his girlfriend which the last time this happened was when she was sleeping with some other guy, and then Coop comes back in to retrieve his forgotten phone/pager, and then Eddie makes riotously funny and double-meaning out-loud comments on Sam's thoughts and suspicions about his girlfriend who he suspects is sleeping with someone else so as to make Coop squirm (which he does, very well) and then Coop walks out and makes faces at Eddie through the pharmacy window... very funny scene.


But all around, I thought this episode lacked subtlety. Yes, it's the next-to-last episode of the season so "everything has to come to a head" as we head into the inevitable final episode "cliff hanger" nonsense. All story lines from the season lead here, so I get this is inevitable.

But I felt it was all just a bit hamfisted.

Putting the oxy pills in a dental floss holder and then having it fall out of her coat pocket while in the passenger seat of the car and fall under the seat so that she physically couldn't find it or reach it even when trying while standing outside the car and groping around everywhere even with nobody around... just seems unlikely.

Coop blowing off any any more thorough examination of the guy with the serious "rash" all over his leg after cursorily prescribing nothing more significant than a cortisone cream for "yep, it's a rash"... sure Coop's an A-hole, but he's actually supposed to be a decent medical practitioner. This just seems unlikely.

And Zoe, miracle worker who's playing "Nurse Jackie" for the afternoon, magically looks under the calf at the varicose veins and decides that maybe something's going on here beyond a simple bad case of rash and asks O'Hara to double-check, and lo and behold they take a quick ultrasound (or something) and fortunately discover the signs of an upcoming pulmonary embolism, and thus instantly save his life whereas Coop would have killed him... hmmmm.

And Jackie actually blowing off best friend but lie-discovering O'Hara the way she did, well I know she's an addict who knows she's just been discovered by her latest "mark" who'd been at-the-time unwittingly manipulated into prescribing pills for Jackie... but this whole interaction and Jackie literally cutting school in the middle of the day... hmmmm.

The well-dressed guy "wolf in sheep's clothing" coming to find Jackie with flowers (when we all out in the audience already know he's a drug dealer), to make a large donation to the hospital to thank Jackie for saving his life and being intercepted by Ackalitis smiling broadly when she hears "donation"... hmmmm.

After learning that Jackie has taken O'Hara's money because Fiona conveniently and disrespectfully to her mother just disregards Jackie's order to return her cellphone and instead pushes the "return call" button to actually reach and then speak with O'Hara who amazingly can actually carry on an intelligent cell phone conversation while in a noisy crowded bar, which right off the bat manages to spill the beans and blow the lid off of the most significant possible secret Jackie has with O'Hara because of what 8-year old Fiona blurts out loud, and Kevin literally stops the car in the middle of some street and gets out and starts walking who knows where leaving his family abandoned, and conveniently there are no cars around on this of course appropriately water-soaked street (so as to provide the mandatory and subtle street light reflections for "the shot" as he walks away, much like we see in every night shoot for any scene on any show or movie located in Los Angeles WHERE IT ACTUALLY NEVER EVER RAINS!!)... not one car? Really?

Etc., etc.

Sure, this is all just a TV drama, and a very good one at that. But I personally found myself noticing all of these what I felt to be very amateurish gimmicks all squeezed into this particular 25 minutes in a very intentional and un-subtle and obligatory and amateurish way.

Oh... I still love this show and every character.
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DSperber,
Thanks for the post, it was a good read

Can't wait for the finale tonight.
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That was a great final episode. I feel like the entire season built up to this ending. And I love that Jackie thinks she is still on top. There aren't many actresses who could pull this off. Falco is showing why she is one of the current greats.

The development of Zoey's character has also been done well. While she is zany, there is also depth to her. I also feel like Eddie redeemed himself, showing that he is a caring individual.

Finally, I even started to like Cooper by the end of the season.

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Good season finale, indeed.

I might think of more to post later.
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Agreed, I thought they did an amazing job of pulling all the stories together in a short period.
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Thor to the rescue - I loved it! God in the ceiling, the duck sauce and Coop getting sucker punched. Great finale. Too bad we have to wait. Hopefully all the key people come back, which is pretty much everybody.

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Forgot about God in the ceiling. ha.
Good stuff.
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This is a very well done show - great acting, well written. Unfortunately, I think I will skip it next season. A little bit too uncomfortable to watch at times. There just isn't enough about Jackie that would ever cause me to root for her.
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Thor to the rescue - I loved it!

Hilarious, the way he turned around to confirm that this wasn't one of Jackie's "friends". Like he half expected one of her friends to have her pinned against the wall like that.


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There just isn't enough about Jackie that would ever cause me to root for her.

Just curious, why do you feel the need to have someone to "root for"? It's not a requirement by any means for good drama, or even comedy. In fact there's a cogent argument supporting the notion that good writing avoids just that.
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Just curious, why do you feel the need to have someone to "root for"? It's not a requirement by any means for good drama, or even comedy. In fact there's a cogent argument supporting the notion that good writing avoids just that.

I usually like shows with a good anti-hero (Dexter, Sopranos, Deadwood, etc). To be honest, I'm unsure why I don't like this show, 'cause I usually like dark shows. There is just no 'enjoyment factor' for me with this one.
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