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great, now tcm is hd and dish dumps it
I'm annoyed too, since I cannot switch from Dish, but it's partly Turner's negotiation tactic as well (to pull the channel from DISH until DISH -- and DISH customers, arguably -- pays a higher price for the Turner channels).

Anyway, fingers crossed they get their brinksmanship over with sooner than later.

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If they really did switch over to "true HD," it seems like way too much of a coincidence that they pulled the trigger at a time when they are unable to come to an agreement with Dish.
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They really did.
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They really did.

+1, Casablanca in HD.
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Yep it's clearly a true HD broadcast now Finally.

Still not any info on the actual broadcast yet though or on program guides.
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I think there's a fair chance that Charlie Ergen, who is known--for better or worse--as one cheap SOB, said "why the hell are you asking us to pay for an 'HD' channel that in five years has never actually shown any HD?"
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for some reason I wouldn't be surprised if some suits never noticed there was a problem with the signal. like as in for several years some wrong setting has been causing the poor picture quality.


to film 16x9 segments for the channel, and then add overscan and windowbox them for SD on your digital HD channel are the kinds of choices a clueless person would make.

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Maybe they don't want to admit they weren't in HD before.

My Comcast guide shows everything on there as HD anyway, so no help there.

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Maybe they don't want to admit they weren't in HD before.

My Comcast guide shows everything on there as HD anyway, so no help there.
I've mentioned before that at no time has TCM ever called themselves an HD network. The HD logo does not appear anywhere on their network. They never call themselves TCMHD. That's how it's been listed in the various guides but never by TCM directly. Just saying.
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As of mid-November 2014, it appears TCM HD is actually broadcasting at least some content in native HDTV as evidenced by full-frame 4:3, 16:9, and wider screen aspect ratio content, which was previously shrunk slightly in both horizontal and vertical size, and the obviously-now-in-HD bumper segments with Robert Osborne and Ben Mankiewicz. On Veterans Day 2014, the 1970 film Patton was subjectively much more detailed than in past TCM HD airings, as was the November 15 airing of On the Waterfront.

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I think there's a fair chance that Charlie Ergen, who is known--for better or worse--as one cheap SOB, said "why the hell are you asking us to pay for an 'HD' channel that in five years has never actually shown any HD?"

I'd say there was no chance of him saying it. He probably didn't even know. Besides, TCM wasn't the only channel pulled from Dish. All the Turner stations, with the exception of TNT and TBS, were pulled.
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Soon to be joined by the CW from the messages I got from Dish last night. This may be bigger folks!
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Soon to be joined by the CW from the messages I got from Dish last night. This may be bigger folks!

I think you mean CBS.
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The CW & CBS are both owned by the same company.
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It would be nice to know beforehand what movies are going to be showing in HD. Maybe eventually on the TCM site? Presumably most, if not all of the movies already on Blu ray will be in HD. Considering how many movies are listed on Warner Archive Instant as being in HD, TCM might now show many movies that are not available on disc in high definition. I would hope any movies that are "new transfers" don't show up as down/up converts.
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Someone at TCM awhile back said that whenever Warner did a new transfer for the archive they had to wait a year before they could use it on TCM. Maybe that's changed.
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Someone at TCM awhile back said that whenever Warner did a new transfer for the archive they had to wait a year before they could use it on TCM. Maybe that's changed.
It would be great if it was only a year that they had to wait. I've believed for a while now that TCM wasn't going HD because Warner didn't want the increased competition for Warner Archive Instant.
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It would be great if it was only a year that they had to wait. I've believed for a while now that TCM wasn't going HD because Warner didn't want the increased competition for Warner Archive Instant.

I really don't think that's the case. I think it was simply a matter of Turner waiting for the ability to show a certain percentage of their content in HD, or being cheap, or both. On top of that, there is content available on Warner Instant that you'll never see on TCM.
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My recording of King Kong yesterday didn't look as strikingly different from my July 2011 one. The bitrate was actually lower this time - 12.190Mbps vs 9.987Mbps. The transfer was darker overall. But detail seemed to be improved and there was no overscan border or signal noise in the top of the frame:































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Anyone watch Citizen Kane this morning? It does not look HD to me. I've seen the Blu ray projected on a big screen, so I know what it should look like. I had time to look at a few other movies this weekend, and I haven't seen anything very impressive yet, and a few transfers that looked like they were created during the VHS days.


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I really don't think that's the case. I think it was simply a matter of Turner waiting for the ability to show a certain percentage of their content in HD, or being cheap, or both. On top of that, there is content available on Warner Instant that you'll never see on TCM.
Well, I'll mention this quote from George Feltenstein again, from Feb. 2009-"Because we've been mastering in 1080p since 2002, we have gorgeous high-definition masters on more than 250 black-and-white 4x3 movies." That was almost six years ago. Maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I would think that number is over one thousand by now (including color pre-1970), particularly considering what we have seen available on Warner Instant in "high definition."
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Are you sure you're watching the right feed? Or maybe your cable system is playing with bit rates with football on other channels?
Last night The Champ was crystal clear as was Broadway Melody of 1940 yesterday. Earlier in the week Pillow Talk Gypsy and especially Sweet Charity all looked razor sharp. You can see a big difference in Robert and Ben's intros and the graphics. I'm sure it will take a long time if ever for them to be airing only from HD masters.
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Scarecrow the other night was gorgeous, and the liitle I saw of the Argento film, Cat o Nine Tails looked good as well. Its obvious they've changed things, like Gary16 said, all the bumpers and alot of the between movie stuff has been redone.
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