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post #1831 of 1855 Old 12-04-2014, 09:06 AM
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Until a few weeks ago they were up converting their SD signal so nothing was true HD. Now they are running a full HD feed but much of their library exists only in SD quality transfers. However the titles that have been upgraded to HD ar quite obvious.
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Just compared "Quatermass and the Pit" to the Anchor Bay non-anamorphic 1.66:1 SD. TCM's was zoomed in, no 1.66:1 and it filled the screen completely. It was much darker than the SD, with less info on the top, but oddly a dash more info on the right.


It was a crappy presentation in HD, if that what it was supposed to be!

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Just compared "Quatermass and the Pit" to the Anchor Bay non-anamorphic 1.66:1 SD. TCM's was zoomed in, no 1.66:1 and it filled the screen completely. It was much darker than the SD, with less info on the top, but oddly a dash more info on the right.


It was a crappy presentation in HD, if that what it was supposed to be!
This is something we will have to live with for some time. Hopefully they will start identifying true HD titles soon, but we're still in much better shape than before when nothing was in true HD. The fact that they're now capable of feeding true HD is at least a step in the right direction.
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How do we know for sure if TCM movies are HD? I have Directv and it would be nice if the guide for TCM would have HD logos for their HD movies. Do any guides such as Dish or any cable companies have HD info for TCM?
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I thought it had long been established that none of the content on TCM HD was, in fact, in HD.
This changed about 4 weeks ago.
The bumpers are HD and many of the movies are now true HD.

Just turn it on and you can see for yourself.
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Just compared "Quatermass and the Pit" to the Anchor Bay non-anamorphic 1.66:1 SD. TCM's was zoomed in, no 1.66:1 and it filled the screen completely. It was much darker than the SD, with less info on the top, but oddly a dash more info on the right.


It was a crappy presentation in HD, if that what it was supposed to be!
That movie was clearly not HD. They can't air an HD movie if they don't have an HD version.

From what I've seen if there is a region 1 Bluray then it probably will air on TCM in HD.
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Yeah, TCM is a whole different animal than an HBO, or even MGM or Sony Movie Channel. They just rotate a slightly different bunch of movies every month, while TCM might not show a single movie twice in that whole time frame. So unless they totally water down their programming strategy, there's always going to be movies that don't look great. Their range is ten times greater than any other premium channel, so I'd say a few turkeys are worth the tradeoff.
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I thought it had long been established that none of the content on TCM HD was, in fact, in HD.
That certainly was the case, although some of the upconverts were pretty good.

As of November 10, the TCM-HD channel went to true HD. There was no fanfare, but now we can expect some startlingly good versions of many classic films (mixed in with upconverts when an HD transfer is not available).

TCM is now even more of a treasure in the TV universe.
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That certainly was the case, although some of the upconverts were pretty good.

As of November 10, the TCM-HD channel went to true HD. There was no fanfare, but now we can expect some startlingly good versions of many classic films (mixed in with upconverts when an HD transfer is not available).

TCM is now even more of a treasure in the TV universe.
Several titles that aired this past weekend were stunning including Boys Town, The Man Who Came To Dinner, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, and The Graduate.
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Just watching "Island of Lost Women" and the print is beautiful. Doesn't look like an upscale at the beginning but it does look to be an upscale towards the end. Watching it on a Mit 65738 DLP ISFed. To bad the only way to own it is from Alpha Video with a crappy print...oh well.

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I've heard from who has seen both versions says that the edited one sucks, and most say the long one is good. Some don't like Ingrid playing a girl much younger than herself. I'm glad to hear that TCM aired the complete version. I am recording it in both HD and SD, because it is supposed to be in 1.66:1, and sometimes that gets screwed with.
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Showing a stunning print of The Bachelor and the Bobby Soxer right now. Incredible tonal range.
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...damn, just missed it!

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Inspector, you old dog! You have a Merry Christmas, or whatever.


TCM shows The B & the B quite frequently.
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The Bad and The Beautiful? :kissing_closed_eyes:
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Inspector, you old dog! You have a Merry Christmas, or whatever.


TCM shows The B & the B quite frequently.

Back at ya!!!

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The Bad and The Beautiful? :kissing_closed_eyes:
That too. I find myself constantly turning to TCM these days simply to ascertain how good the print is.

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The showing of A Night to Remember yesterday was quite watchable.
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The showing of A Night to Remember yesterday was quite watchable.
I have A Night to Remember on BD. The film was lovingly restored for the BD release, as part of Criterion Collection in the US, so it's no surprise that it looked good on TCM. Better yet, I think it is a great film 10 Stars out of 10.
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Wow now I really want this on fios
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Great print of the Hepburn Little Women this Christmas afternoon. Christopher Columbus indeed!
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Just watched "The Reluctant Dragon" beautiful Technicolor print (it didn't look upscaled but an HD print and "Davy Crockett-King of the Wild frontier." Davey was 1.78:1/85 and the DVD of this was 1.37:1(IMDB).Not sure what aspect ratio it was shown at the theater.

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Yeah, those two you mentioned looked great. The King of Kings and Ben Hur the other night were sharp as well.
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Davy Crockett I believe was intended for television, so I would suspect 1:37:1, though it might have been lensed to look good either way.
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Davy Crockett I believe was intended for television, so I would suspect 1:37:1, though it might have been lensed to look good either way.
IMDB lists it as 1.37:1 with Cinematographic Process: Spherical.

If that is true, then I suspect a 1.78:1 or 1.85:1 was from cropping off the top and bottom of the picture. I would also think the original theatrical release was likewise in the Academy Ratio (1.37:1).

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Davy Crockett I believe was intended for television, so I would suspect 1:37:1, though it might have been lensed to look good either way.
My understanding is that this was made for theatrical release, capitalizing on the success of the TV shows.

By 1955, the majority of movies were intended for widescreen projection (masking to 1.85:1 or 1.66:1), even when shot full-frame with spherical lenses. Only Disney would know for sure (and they provided this transfer for TCM). IMdB is an excellent reference, but is not always correct.
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