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post #361 of 378 Old 11-02-2009, 01:27 PM
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Another interesting article. Contrary to bicker1's assertions, it appears the actual showrunner agrees with me:

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Having the Grey's Anatomy tag probably hurt the show ultimately. But in terms of trying to sell the show, as sort of a quick pitch for the buyers, it had to be look, it's a show in space, but it's not a space show. This is a space show that's going to attract women.

So, trying to attach it to Grey's Anatomy was solely for the benefit of network execs.
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Finally was able to watch episode 13 on CastTV.
Even though ABC completely bailed on this I am happy I got to watch the few remaining episodes.
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Finally was able to watch episode 13 on CastTV.
Even though ABC completely bailed on this I am happy I got to watch the few remaining episodes.

This helps show where the show was going. Helped me alot in reading it.

http://www.cliqueclack.com/tv/2009/1...m-the-creator/
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This helps show where the show was going. Helped me alot in reading it.

http://www.cliqueclack.com/tv/2009/1...m-the-creator/

Thanks for the link as it was a good read.
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Is it me or did they seem to be hinting that
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Nadia used to be a Man. I think that was her/his secert
Imagine if people/Donner found out sans 5 years later. Then again it is 2050ish

I watched the last episode today and then read the article with the show creator and he confirmed your theory. But I can't recall her hallucination that eluded to this. Can someone tell me which episode and about what point in that episode it occurred in? Thanks.

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I watched the last episode today and then read the article with the show creator and he confirmed your theory. But I can't recall her hallucination that eluded to this. Can someone tell me which episode and about what point in that episode it occurred in? Thanks.

Cant remember which episode but it was when Nadia first had her vision and they did a close up of what she saw.
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Just finishing watch the 1st two DVD - Netflex-- This really a well done Sci-Fi.
It's two bad more people havn't seen it.
Look at al the Actors that have gone on to their own shows or are leads in others. Very impressive.
If you are into Scf-fi watch this very short series.
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Sci Fans seem to be fickle in the past years.
Lost of series killed off only to have crap replace it.
This show, Journeyman, SG:U are but a few that come to mind.
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As I recall, most of the criticism of the show during its brief network run centered on the soapy-sudsy aspects of the plotline. My guess is they wrote it that way to try to attract a female audience not normally associated with sci-fi. But the effects were good, the cast was solid, and the Big Arc serialized storyline had inventiveness and punch.

DG had the potential to develop into a great TV show. Most of the show's fans never saw the last several episodes since they were never telecast. Well worth it to check out now that it's on Netflix.
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Yes, it was another well-done show that was never watched, and disappeared with barely a whimper. I like it, a lot. I thought it had very good production values, and a great "look" but the ratings, they were horrendous.

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Sci Fans seem to be fickle in the past years.
Lost of series killed off only to have crap replace it.
This show, Journeyman, SG:U are but a few that come to mind.

And in all three cases they take the share of the blame.

All three started out with barely a nod to science-fiction and wanted to exist as human dramas with slight science-fiction overtones. They didn't want to scare away the mainstream so aimed for them more than sci-fi fans. In doing so they alienated the genre audience. See also: Flash Forward

Journeyman and SGU became infinitely more interesting when they stopped aiming for the mainstream and started embracing their genre. You would be hard pressed to find anyone who watched to the end who didn't think those shows improved when that happened.

There's a lesson here. If you are a science-fiction show stop trying to pretend you are not just for ratings. Be honest about what you are and realistic about who you want to appeal to.


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As I recall, most of the criticism of the show during its brief network run centered on the soapy-sudsy aspects of the plotline. My guess is they wrote it that way to try to attract a female audience not normally associated with sci-fi. ...

I took to hitting FF during almost all the scenes set back on Earth. (sometimes made for a short episode) The science fiction part was OK, the Soap Opera part -- not so much.

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All three started out with barely a nod to science-fiction and wanted to exist as human dramas with slight science-fiction overtones.

I'm going to have to disagree with this, as regards SG:U. Yes, it wanted to focus more on the human drama, but it never shied away from its science fiction roots. Right from the beginning, they were on an alien space ship, trying to deal with alien technology and life forms, and hoping to survive by scrounging raw material from passing planets they reach via the Stargate.

It was as blatantly sci-fi Battlestar Galactica.
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I'm going to have to disagree with this, as regards SG:U. Yes, it wanted to focus more on the human drama, but it never shied away from its science fiction roots.

Except in it's storylines.

They spent at least half the show just arguing amongst themselves based on some plot device in the first five minutes.

Take the desert planet for example. Thirty minutes of desert arguing and an occasional sighting of a weird alien thing. Back on the ship when systems failed the episode was spent arguing about who was in charge. When they had no plot device to argue about it was spent on Earth following adulterous wives etc. etc.

Contrast that with final season episodes battling space drones, alien species, other timeline Rush etc.

They ignored the concepts that make science-fiction and instead spent a large portion of the first season running through dramatic staples like alcoholism, pregnancy, love triangles, faction rivalries etc.

Imagination and creativity is what makes science-fiction excel. Without that you just have a dramatic series with characters who wear a different type of uniform than a cop.


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SG:U-"ship when systems failed the episode was spent arguing about who was in charge"
That was what turn me OFF of SG:U..
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Take the desert planet for example. Thirty minutes of desert arguing and an occasional sighting of a weird alien thing. Back on the ship when systems failed the episode was spent arguing about who was in charge. When they had no plot device to argue about it was spent on Earth following adulterous wives etc. etc.

My fast forward method developed for watching Defying Gravity helped me get through the extraneous stuff on SG:U also. (my media player has a programmable skip function)

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