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This may become a new guilty-pleasure for me, as has Twilight (the movie) it seems to be stealing thunder from. Then again, mostly everything on The CW is a guilty pleasure.

Debuts tonight, 8/7c (will be encored tomorrow Fri.). Click the link for more show info and webisodes...

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We'll catch the first two eps, but then it sits in third position (with only two tuners) behind Bones and Flash Forward.
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According to USA TODAY, this show is geared only for teen age girls.

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We'll catch the first two eps, but then it sits in third position (with only two tuners) behind Bones and Flash Forward.

It definitely loses priority to FlashForward....



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According to USA TODAY, this show is geared only for teen age girls.

So was Twilight, but that didn't stop it from growin' on me. And I'm not a teenager and definitely not a girl!

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According to USA TODAY, this show is geared only for teen age girls.

Umm, it's on the CW, you need the USA Today to tell you it was geared to teenage girls. Seriously though, I'm a 36 year old man, and I'm looking forward to it. My wife is seriously addicted to Twilight and True Blood, and read the first Vampire Diaries book this summer, so for her, this will fill in the gap between the end of True Blood season 2 and New Moon in November.

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Anybody watch? I'm watching now, about 2/3 of the way through, not sure if it's gonna be my cup of tea. I'll give it a few episodes. I'm starved for SciFi and supernatural programming as it is, so I'll give it a long leash.
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I watched it, lots of teen angst - if you can have teen angst when you're 150 years old- but anyway...

Production values were good, it looked great. Good use of music too. Plot not so much, good brother, bad brother, both blood suckers. Had an Angel flash back when the dark brother asked how long the good brother could get by on squirrel blood, Angel was using rats for a decade or so...

Not interested in Flash Forward, odds are it will last 6 episodes and be gone like most of ABC's stuff. Bones gets one of my many tuners....
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I saw the pilot at Comic Con 2009, but rewatched it tonight. It's essentially Vampires meet Dawson's Creek, which is no surprise, since the creator of Dawson's, Kevin Williamson (also creator of the Scream Franchise), put this together.

As a Degrassi fan I love seeing Nina Dobrev (Elena) on "regular" television. She is hot and I'm glad the world gets to see her hotness.
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Well, all I can say is that the title of the show is a bit of an unfortunate choice in the texting age. ..... wait for it ....
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Watched it and not impressed. Too much of a rip off of Twilight for me. Can't there be anything original anymore? I loved the old CW Thursday night lineup with Smallville.
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Well, I pretty much enjoyed it, sure it had the usual CW teen angst, but I thought the vampire elements were done well enough. It was certainly derivative: from "Twilight" for the forbidden teen love angle, "Buffy/Angel" for the aforementioned animal blood angle as well as the ring that protects from sunlight, and even "Dracula" with the is she or isn't she the reincarnation of the vamp's old love. I'm kind of with rebkell, I'll pretty much give most any scifi or supernatural type show at least a look, heck I'll probably even sample "Eastwick."

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Too much of a rip off of Twilight for me. Can't there be anything original anymore?

First, there hasn't been much of anything that was truly "original" for as long as any of us have been alive. Practically everything is in some way a derivative of something else or a combination of other things. Despite surface appearances, this television series is as original, solely as compared to the books that the series is based on, as anything is original, overall. That's the nature of the true lack of actual originality.

I read concerns about originality simply as a matter of the complainer tiring of certain genres or themes. That is something internal to the complainer, not any reflection of an exhaustion of the utility of pursuing such themes overall.

Besides: Vampire Diaries, the television series, derives more from One Tree Hill, 90210 and perhaps even the early seasons of Smallville, than from Twilight, books or movies.

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I loved the old CW Thursday night lineup with Smallville.

I dunno... I don't consider two hours a "lineup".
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First, there hasn't been much of anything that was truly "original" for as long as any of us have been alive. Practically everything is in some way a derivative of something else or a combination of other things. Despite surface appearances, this television series is as original, solely as compared to the books that the series is based on, as anything is original, overall. That's the nature of the true lack of actual originality.

I read concerns about originality simply as a matter of the complainer tiring of certain genres or themes. That is something internal to the complainer, not any reflection of an exhaustion of the utility of pursuing such themes overall.

Besides: Vampire Diaries, the television series, derives more from One Tree Hill, 90210 and perhaps even the early seasons of Smallville, than from Twilight, books or movies.

I dunno... I don't consider two hours a "lineup".


I view VD as just another attempt to jump on what's hot at the moment, or at least what was hot last spring. The writers could have easily named it "Twilight: The Series", it's that blatant of a rip off. I don't see it having enough to carry it beyond 1 or 2 seasons.

What exactly constitutes a line up to you? Prime time TV is between 8-11. Tyler Perry's House of Painfulness follows Supernatural as it has for the last few years, which doesn't exactly "fit" with SN and SV. So barring that last hour of nothingness, I see fit to call the best two shows the CW has on Thursdays their "lineup". YMMV
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The writers could have easily named it "Twilight: The Series", it's that blatant of a rip off.

Except that it is based on books that predated the books on which Twilight is based by a decade. Twilight was the "rip off".

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I don't see it having enough to carry it beyond 1 or 2 seasons.

This is The CW. I wouldn't be so quick to jump to that conclusion.

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What exactly constitutes a line up to you? Prime time TV is between 8-11. Tyler Perry's House of Painfulness follows Supernatural

Not here. That's a local offering in your area, not a network offering. CW programming is two hours per night. I consider a "line up" to be three hours. But that's just me. Like you said.
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What exactly constitutes a line up to you? Prime time TV is between 8-11. Tyler Perry's House of Painfulness follows Supernatural as it has for the last few years, which doesn't exactly "fit" with SN and SV. So barring that last hour of nothingness, I see fit to call the best two shows the CW has on Thursdays their "lineup". YMMV

Not to go too far OT, but House of Payne is syndicated, so while it follows Supernatural for you, it's not part of the CW lineup. In my market it airs in the 6pm (central) slot, just before primetime, on the MyTV affiliate.

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Except that it is based on books that predated the books on which Twilight is based by a decade. Twilight was the "rip off".

Fair enough. I didn't know that. I typically don't follow teen angst ridden novels about mythical beings that drink blood that make exceptions to their true nature while falling in love with underage girls Just me.

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This is The CW. I wouldn't be so quick to jump to that conclusion.

Point taken. See Smallville.

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Not here. That's a local offering in your area, not a network offering. CW programming is two hours per night. I consider a "line up" to be three hours. But that's just me. Like you said.

I didn't realize that as well. Oh well. It's just such a ridiculous bookend to SV/SN that I completely disregard it.
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I typically don't follow teen angst ridden novels about mythical beings that drink blood that make exceptions to their true nature while falling in love with underage girls Just me.

My wife turned me onto the genre.
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I view VD

.... and there it is. A most unfortunate choice of titles.
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Besides: Vampire Diaries, the television series, derives more from One Tree Hill, 90210 and perhaps even the early seasons of Smallville, than from Twilight, books or movies.

Or Dawson's Creek, as I pointed out that VD was created by Kevin Williamson, creator of Dawson's Creek (and Scream). And I don't just say that because of the same creator: VD had a Dawson's feel with its introspection into the thoughts of its main characters. That's classic Dawson's Creek.
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Primetime Ratings: ‘Vampire Diaries' Sets Debut Record For CW

Delivers second-place 2.1/6 finish at 8 p.m.

By David Tanklefsky -- Broadcasting & Cable, 9/11/2009 1:07:10 PM EDT

Vampire Diaries turned out to be the fall premiere the CW can sink its teeth into. The show set a series debut record among women 18-34 (3.0/10) and women 18-49 (2.8/8). Its 2.1/6 number in the 18-49 demo and 4.8 million viewer total were the highest for the network since October 2007. The CW finished third overall on the night with a 1.7/5.

NBC was way out in front of the competition overall with their coverage of the first NFL regular season game, between the Pittsburgh Steelers and Tennessee Titans. The game averaged a 5.9/18 rating and 15.9 million viewers in the 8 p.m. hour. CBS was next at 2.6/8 for Big Brother, followed by the CW's impressive debut for Vampire Diaries. Fox was fourth with a 1.2/4 for a rerun of Bones. A Grey's Anatomy rerun on ABC delivered a 1.1/3.

NBC hit the night's top marks at 9 p.m. with a 7.8/21 and 20 million viewers tuning into the football game. The CW and CBS tied for second at 1.4/4. The CW aired the fifth season premiere of the Supernatural. CBS countered with a rerun of CSI. Another Grey's rerun pulled a 1.3/4 for ABC. Fox was fifth at 1.1/3 for a rerun of Fringe.

At 10 NBC stayed way ahead with a 7.3/20 and 17.3 million viewers. CBS' Mentalist rerun was next at 1.9/5. ABC was third at 1.0/3 for a rerun of Private Practice.

NBC dominated the night with a 7.0/20 average and 17.8 million tuning in. CBS was second at 1.9/5, followed by the CW's strongest Thursday night showing in viewers since September 2008 at 1.7/5. Fox came in at 1.2/3. ABC was fifth with a 1.1/3.

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I watched the pilot back in May (work for a CW affiliate). When I watched it, it was obviously a rip-off of Twilight, but learned a few weeks later the books for VD came out well before the Twilight books. So, I'll wait and see on how the series goes...

What I don't like is that the producers aren't pushing the boundaries for the network. Supernatural (language/gore) really pushes what can be shown on network television (as did Veronica Mars, re: language). This show is about vampires dammit, push the boundaries a little. I'm not saying go all "True Blood" and all, but c'mon, give us a little more than Twilight....

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It was tepid at best. However, I don't judge a show by its pilot. At that point, shows are often not at their "gel" point. So, for the time being, the series link is still staying.
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I saw the pilot...it was too teeny bop for me...
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The 5 actresses from Vampire Diaries were arrested for flashing motorist on the expressway. They commented that they were filming for the show.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20859053/detail.html#

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It was tepid at best. However, I don't judge a show by its pilot. At that point, shows are often not at their "gel" point. So, for the time being, the series link is still staying.

True Blood is currently my favorite show and Buffy VS was my all time favorite series. And I also don't judge a show too much by its pilot.

But I really didn't think TVD had any snap at all to the dialogue. If it doesn't improve I'll probably just label it a vampire formula show and stop watching even though I'm a sucker for most any sci fi or fantasy series and the genre alone will probably keep me for a couple more episodes.

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True Blood is currently my favorite show and Buffy VS was my all time favorite series. And I also don't judge a show too much by its pilot.

But I really didn't think TVD had any snap at all to the dialogue. If it doesn't improve I'll probably just label it a vampire formula show and stop watching even though I'm a sucker for most any sci fi or fantasy series and the genre alone will probably keep me for a couple more episodes.

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The 5 actresses from Vampire Diaries were arrested for flashing motorist on the expressway. They commented that they were filming for the show.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20859053/detail.html#

That's one way to secure ratings.
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Reminds me how much I miss Moonlight.

And "Blood Ties". Both exceedingly better than this one so far. It would be enjoyable if Supernatural's creator Eric Kripke had a hand in it.
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That's one way to secure ratings.

If they would come over to my house and do that I would probably be willing to retract my somewhat critical comments above.

I believe in encouraging that sort of behavior.

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