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I've watched the first 3 episodes and I hate to say it but, I barely laughed at all.

Very disappointing.

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So, what's everyone's take on the new season so far?

There have been some funny moments and Gloria is looking better than she did all last season. I don't know if it's the hair or something with her face, but she doesn't look strange like I thought she did before.

Now, I know I'm about to delve into Creepyville here and I fully recognize that, but here goes anyway. Alex (Ariel Winter) looks like she may give Gloria (Sofia Vergara) a run for her money in a few years in a certain department.

Horrible, laughed once or twice on all episodes combined. Totally lost its magic.

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Last week when they gave Claire a job I thought the show had finally found something for her to do. Likewise with Cam. In fact I thought that was a great move that would get Cam away from the "Gay guys are sooo flamboyant! They be crazee!" role he seems to be stuck with.

This week they did nothing with that and threw in a OTT cat funeral. Not to mention Mitchell being stuck in an ventilation shaft because the lawyer decided that between the option of crawling into a duct and hanging down and then dropping two feet the former was the logical choice. Just idiotic and not in a funny way.

The rest was okay, but I can't remember anything of it, so that's not high praise.


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I must agree with the sentiment that the show appears to have lost a step so far this season, especially this latest episode with Mitchel in the ventilation shaft and Cam's cat funeral.  There are still the occasional great one-liners and ensemble setups, but fewer.  Ty Burrell is always good for a laugh and is the gem of this show for me.  Hoping it finds its stride again.


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Ditto to all the above, especially Ty Burrell. The new Michael J. Fox show has blatantly lifted the "characters address the camera" technique from Modern Family (though it doesn't work nearly as well). IMO, MF is still better than any of the new sitcoms I've DVRed this fall, even if it isn't as fresh as it used to be. "Dads" didn't make it to the second episode before I deleted the season pass, and "Mom" only got to ep 2. I've been guilty of patricide and matricide in the last two weeks. smile.gif Mike O'Malley's new show "Welcome to the Family" shows some promise, though.

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"The new Michael J. Fox show has blatantly lifted the "characters address the camera" technique from Modern Family Jack Benny

There, fixed that for you. Breaking the 4th wall wasn't exactly a recent innovation. After The Office, Malcolm in the Middle, Parker Lewis Can't Lose, Burns and Allen, and a host of other shows, it's kind of odd to credit that style to Modern Family. Heck, even the Second Doctor did it in at least one episode.
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There, fixed that for you. Breaking the 4th wall wasn't exactly a recent innovation. After The Office, Malcolm in the Middle, Parker Lewis Can't Lose, Burns and Allen, and a host of other shows, it's kind of odd to credit that style to Modern Family. Heck, even the Second Doctor did it in at least one episode.

So did Happy Days in the series Finale when Howard turned to the camera and thanked everyone.

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That's a good point, and I realize it's not the first time the technique has been used, but even in the pilot MF made it seem fresh. It's still important to how they tell the stories. To me, the Fox sitcom makes it feel bolted on and "borrowed." But that's probably a discussion more appropriate for a different thread.

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This new season is not good relative to the previous ones. But I have a new appreciation for Fulgencio.

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That's a good point, and I realize it's not the first time the technique has been used, but even in the pilot MF made it seem fresh. It's still important to how they tell the stories. To me, the Fox sitcom makes it feel bolted on and "borrowed." But that's probably a discussion more appropriate for a different thread.

MF doesn't break the fourth wall. Neither does the Fox show. They are talking to a camera that exists within the show because they are using a faux documentary style. The fourth wall refers to an imaginary wall on the set where a camera should not exist, so when a character addresses the camera they are talking to the world outside of their fictional reality.

That was always one of my favorite gags during a Bob Hope movie.
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I thought this latest episode was the weakest in awhile. Didn't laugh out loud once and that is very unusual. Hopefully they'll get back on track next week.
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I thought this latest episode was the weakest in awhile. Didn't laugh out loud once and that is very unusual. Hopefully they'll get back on track next week.

I was the exact opposite simply because I could totally relate to Jay there. I am EXACTLY like that when waiting for my wife to get ready for anything. She takes forever and then decides after she's done that something doesn't look right and needs to change. I always say to myself she should start an hour earlier than when she does because she has no concept of time.
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MF doesn't break the fourth wall. Neither does the Fox show. They are talking to a camera that exists within the show because they are using a faux documentary style.

That's a very pedantic difference, from my point of view. From the audience perspective, it serves the same purpose in the story telling.The 'faux documentary' just wraps the funny commentary in a logical reason to break away from the story. But really, it's not significantly different than George Burns just turning to the camera and making a witty observation.

It works horribly, by the way, on the new Michael J. Fox show. Because they for some reason have decided to add a 1990's home video camera look to the faux documentary. It's lame, for two reasons. 1) It presumes the audience isn't smart enough to figure out that we've entered the 'comment" portion of the show and needs a visual cue, and 2) If, presumably, the rest of the story is seen from the documentary viewpoint, as in the case of The Office, why would the documentary crew use a modern broadcast camera for the story, and then something that looks like MiniDV for the interviews?
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I was the exact opposite simply because I could totally relate to Jay there. I am EXACTLY like that when waiting for my wife to get ready for anything. She takes forever and then decides after she's done that something doesn't look right and needs to change. I always say to myself she should start an hour earlier than when she does because she has no concept of time.

It's why I generally tell my wife to be ready 30-45 minutes early. So far, she hasn't caught on. She just thinks I'm terrible at estimating the time it will take to travel from our house to wherever we are going.
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That's a very pedantic difference, from my point of view.

Hardly, it's a major stylistic difference. The characters are talking to a physical camera that exists in their world. Breaking the fourth wall is the equivalent of you talking to an actual wall in your own home and seeing an imaginary audience. Because to everyone around you that's what it would appear you would be doing and to every other character in a television show that is exactly what is happening when a character does the same thing. It also means the characters who do break the fourth wall are also aware they are acting in a television show.

That often results in the comedic scene in which bemused characters turn to see who the other character was talking to and seeing nothing unusual with the comment "who is he talking to?"

Of course then you have something like "It's Garry Shandling's Show" which kind of destroyed the fourth wall concept in meta fashion so completely that it became something else entirely.
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It also means the characters who do break the fourth wall are also aware they are acting in a television show.

So are people who are talking to a pretend camera on a pretend documentary. As I said, functionally, from the audience standpoint, it's the same thing.
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This show has been coasting for a long time but I have to say the bathroom farce was nicely orchestrated. Silly, but well done. Helped immensely by Stephen Merchant.


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Yes, this episode was a rare gem these days. Funny from start to finish, especially with all the bedroom mixups.

Seeing Gloria in just that towel that was about to fall off was quite cruel though. frown.gif
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Hilarious episode. IIRC, they did another one of these bedroom/sex farces a couple of years back. It's classic comedy and always works for me when it's done well. I was fortunate to catch "Noises Off" as a stage play and in the film adaptation. It's an easy comedy style to spot, because of the frantic pace and slamming doors - always with confused sexual intentions. The Modern Family actors are great at it because their timing is so good.

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It was the best-written episode in a long while. I felt like it was an homage to classic sitcoms (Lucy etc.) except updated w/ 21st-Century sensibilities. I chuckled out loud several times, and that doesn't happen often with any show or movie.

Stephen Merchant seemed to be having fun.
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I lol'd at Jay outside counting the top floors. 22, 23... 24. Son of a b!tch.biggrin.gif

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Great episode, I guess that means back to crappy ones.

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I lol'd at Jay outside counting the top floors. 22, 23... 24. Son of a b!tch.biggrin.gif

I missed the beginning of the episode so I don't know if they mentioned that the top floors (5, I think) of the original Mandalay Bay building is a Four Seasons Hotel - stayed there once -- but not on the TOP floor.
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They did not mention 4 Seasons per say...but you are correct, I have been thinking if staying there, nice?

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They did not mention 4 Seasons per say...but you are correct, I have been thinking if staying there, nice?

It was about 10 years ago or even a little more when I was there but - yes - very nice.

In the 4 Seasons you have access to all of the Mandalay Bay amenities (waterpark, etc.) and there also is a separate pool and hot tub on ground level for 4 seasons guests only -- nice to get away from the "unclean" and the chaos for a while. ;-) Also a private entrance to the hotel from the casino and the 4 has it's own elevators. The rooms very very nice.
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Mandalay Bay has 3 different options. Mandalay Bay, The Hotel and The Four Seasons.

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I didn't even notice until later that the kids weren't in this episode. I usually enjoy them, but didn't miss them this time. And, it would have been a mess if they tried to shoehorn them into an already hectic story involving multiple interweaving plots.
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It's not PC to include kids in a typical bedroom/sex farce. biggrin.gif

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