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Will and Alicia have always been shown as capable of handling extraordinary stress without it impeding their courtroom performance.

 

Impeding their performance? I think that's silly. It made no difference in the outcome of the case and its only importance is one the viewer places in it. If anything I believe it showed how professional they are... a few seconds within a case dealt with and discarded. In many cases in real life or TV the outcome could be far different.

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Impeding their performance? I think that's silly. It made no difference in the outcome of the case and its only importance is one the viewer places in it. If anything I believe it showed how professional they are... a few seconds within a case dealt with and discarded. In many cases in real life or TV the outcome could be far different.

It's a story. Our only window into it is the one the director and writers and actors give us. Everything is significant, because to create significance is what the process of deciding what to write and shoot is for. If it's not important it shouldn't be there at all; the 99.999% of the characters' "lives" that is never shown is what's not important.

If you're going to take a significant portion of your screen time and devote it to this sequence, either it's important or it shouldn't be there. If it's not important then including it and putting so much focus on it is poor storytelling. And that's what I'm saying: It wasn't important, it didn't deserve the focus it got, it was there for cheap laughs, and it was a rare instance of TGW being just ordinary TV.

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It's a story. Our only window into it is the one the director and writers and actors give us. Everything is significant, because to create significance is what the process of deciding what to write and shoot is for. If it's not important it shouldn't be there at all; the 99.999% of the characters' "lives" that is never shown is what's not important.

 

It was very important (showing how they are coping with each other) just not to the case. It was irrelevant to the case itself.

 

To be (much) clearer as to the only importance the viewer places on it relates to the case. Since it had no actual influence no importance is implied by the story.

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.... they can't get over each other to such an extent that they can't function professionally because of it. That would be something they'd have to deal with.

But they weren't doing that. They were going against character in order to be funny, which is sort of the definition of "cheap laugh."

But it was funny.

Yes and no. Will's behavior had nothing to do with their previous "relationship". Alicia told Will (Pillow talk) that another lawyer had unnerved her with his constant objections. Will used that info against her.
His reaction to her outfit, however, was over the top (no pun intended). Will is not a horny teenager (current lover notwithstanding), and intimate memories of Alicia shouldn't have thrown Will that far off his game. TGW's effort to point out Will's instability has been sufficiently subtle. maybe CBS thought the sledgehammer approach was needed.

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I thought the judge was extremely funny,maybe stole this episode. Just my opinion.
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I loved the bailiff 's reactions as the jury relocations progressed.

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Seems like The Good Wife has been away forever and it's such a shame as last night's episode was as good or better than the already fantastic season. I'd post about what I really liked but that's pretty much the entire episode. Although, I did get a kick out of the judge's... I decided not to write that book. 

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Fantastic episode, nice to have it back. The ratings were pretty bad. Hope next week they will rise.
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Fantastic episode, nice to have it back. The ratings were pretty bad. Hope next week they will rise.

 

I read its renewal odds are fairly good. I guess its DVR numbers aren't bad and total number of viewers are actually fairly strong. Plus the accolades it receives can't hurt. CBS values the ole fart viewers more than the other networks so lets hope it gets renewed.

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This is the only drama I watch on TV. Its consistency is remarkable.
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It's been off the air so long, I forgot why the two NSA dweebs were monitoring the law firm's phone traffic in the first place.
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Good news... The Good Wife has been renewed. 

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Good news... The Good Wife has been renewed. 

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Great news,I think CBS owns the show so that helped.
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I thought Part Two played nicely. Just a pure guess (no spoiler) but based on the last line I got the feeling somehow Alicia might save Will next week. Virtually everyone leaving her speech was a hoot... after the non-stop build-up. The flashbacks help to understand what Alicia currently wants and is feeling more so than simply providing background. I'll give them credit for not using any funky wigs, etc. for the flashbacks and I thought Julianna played it wonderfully. If I had any complaint perhaps a little too naively. After all she was the Governor's wife and had practiced previously... it's not like she was just out of school.

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I must have missed the press last year that he was leaving the show. Complete surprise to me.

Edit : cause there was no press. He was signed through the 5th season. I guess just not all of it.
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Wow. Did not see that coming. Well played.
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I wonder if he saw it coming? WOW... just WOW!
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2 CBS shows killed of a main character this season, pretty unusual. I was totally shocked, in no way did I see this coming. You can see they have been plotting this most of the season. It all tied together sadly but well.
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2 CBS shows killed of a main character this season, pretty unusual.

 

I'd say more like the character after Alicia. From the previews (rest of the season) it appears he will be sorely missed... enough to alter their future. Looking back to their last conversation it sadly foreshadowed his fate.

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2 CBS shows killed of a main character this season, pretty unusual. I was totally shocked, in no way did I see this coming. You can see they have been plotting this most of the season. It all tied together sadly but well.

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I'd say more like the character after Alicia. From the previews (rest of the season) it appears he will be sorely missed... enough to alter their future. Looking back to their last conversation it sadly foreshadowed his fate.
Although Joss Carter of Person of Interest was indeed a "main" character, she was not one of the two main characters like Will Gardner and Alicia Florrick on The Good Wife. Will would be the equivalent of Reese or Finch on POI. Still, kudos to CBS for keeping secret the demise of both characters.
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Series creators Robert and Michelle King plan to address the episode and its aftermath in a panel discussion Wednesday moderated by Charlie Rose. The fifth-season drama is one of the most critically acclaimed on a major broadcast network, and has won Emmys for Margulies and co-star Archie Panjabi.

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2014/03/23/cbs-the-good-wife-shocking-twist/6812653/

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Wow, what a shock!

Before the shooting, I was thinking about how the episode/murder case was so full of improbable circumstance, then....

It is a convenient way to end the ballot stuffing case, etc.

Still, I admire the way they presented the aftermath. The missing shoe.... The acting, as usual was spot on.

P.S. They wouldn't pull an Ally McBeal/Gil Bellows type thing would they? Flashbacks, fine....But, if they have a reoccurring, Will the friendly ghost! wink.gif
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2014/03/24/good-wife-creators-explain-will-gardner-death/6819713/

 

The Good Wife, at its heart, is the "Education of Alicia Florrick." To us, there always was a tragedy at the center of Will and Alicia's relationship: the tragedy of bad timing. And when faced with the gut punch of Josh's decision, made over a year ago, to move on to other creative endeavors, we had a major choice to make.

We could "send him off to Seattle," he could be disbarred, or get married, or go off to Borneo to do good works. But there was something in the passion that Will and Alicia shared that made distance a meager hurdle. The brutal honesty and reality of death speaks to the truth and tragedy of bad timing for these two characters. Will's death propels Alicia into her newest incarnation.

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I read spoilers and pay attention on the internet, so I am usually not surprised. I didn't see this coming, and I usually see things coming.

I thought the client was going to off himself... I thought he also might be firing randomly hoping to get police to shoot him instead... but I didn't see Will being killed. I thought he might be injured, and they might play that out... but really didn't think he was going to be gone until those last scenes. They got me... but you know, that's how good TV does it. They build a character up, you care about them, and then they surprise you by taking him away.

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Looking back to their last conversation it sadly foreshadowed his fate.

Which exchange makes you say that?

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Series creators Robert and Michelle King plan to address the episode and its aftermath in a panel discussion Wednesday moderated by Charlie Rose. The fifth-season drama is one of the most critically acclaimed on a major broadcast network, and has won Emmys for Margulies and co-star Archie Panjabi.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2014/03/23/cbs-the-good-wife-shocking-twist/6812653/

Is this discussion to be aired on TV?
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Which exchange makes you say that?
Is this discussion to be aired on TV?

 

Just my take on their dialog...

 

Short video including the creators...

 

http://www.usatoday.com/videos/life/tv/2014/03/24/6833319/

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