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post #751 of 818 Old 01-13-2016, 02:07 PM
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From the "Hot Off The Press" thread (top of 'HDTV Programming' page).

Winter Winter TCA Tour 2016/Critic's Notes (Broadcast)
Will ‘The Good Wife’ go the way of ‘Gilmore Girls?’
By Emily Yahr, Washington Post - Jan. 12, 2016

Those who follow “The Good Wife” closely know that creators Robert and Michelle King have always had a specific, seven-season plan for the show.

So it wasn’t shocking when CBS Entertainment President Glen Geller announced on Tuesday that the duo will indeed step down after the current seventh season. The surprise is that the show, starring Julianna Margulies, could continue without them.

While there’s no official Season 8 announcement yet, and CBS typically waits until late spring to announce renewals, Geller confirmed “The Good Wife” could certainly go on without the Kings, who are already hard at work on a different drama series that will air on CBS this summer.

“The Kings did say they would not be returning after this year. But we have a deep bench [of writers] on the show,” Geller told critics at the Television Critics’ Association press tour. He later mentioned Executive Producer Craig Turk, whom Entertainment Weekly deemed probable to potentially take over. Geller added that the show’s status is still up in the air: “It’s just January, so we haven’t determined if there will be another season or not.”

Showrunners and executive producers change all the time. This case, however, could turn into a “Gilmore Girls”-type situation … in other words, things may not end well. Though the executive producers of that beloved CW series departed the show under vastly different circumstances — a nasty fight with the network about money — it rings quite similar. Just like the Kings’ involvement in “The Good Wife,” creator Amy Sherman-Palladino and Executive Producer Dan Palladino (another husband-wife team) were integral to “Gilmore Girls” and particularly its passionate fan base. When the Palladinos left, it simply wasn’t the same — no one could capture the Gilmore universe like Sherman-Palladino did.

In the same vein, it’s hard to imagine that “The Good Wife” would maintain the same tone without the Kings, who took the series from a fairly standard legal procedural and turned it into one of the best shows on television — regularly considered in the same category as prestige cable dramas, which generally get all the attention. They’ve worked closely with Margulies, also a producer. Even though the writers and other producers clearly share a lot of credit, there have been many instances where another producer’s vision (even one who has been at the show a long time) makes it feel like a completely different program. “Gilmore Girls” was certainly one them, and many viewers refuse to even watch the last season under showrunner David Rosenthal.

Just like “Gilmore Girls,” “The Good Wife” experienced some flack late in the show’s run for bizarre story lines that take main characters away from the action. (Let’s say that Alicia’s state’s attorney campaign is Luke’s daughter.) And the series is still plagued by rumors about what happened between Margulies and recently departed co-star Archie Panjabi. So it makes perfect sense to wrap up “The Good Wife” at the end of this seventh season while the quality is still mostly solid. Still, you can’t blame CBS for wanting to squeeze another year out of the drama, which still attracts about 10 million viewers a week on Sunday nights.

Meanwhile, Robert King assured TVLine that they won’t do anything drastic in the seventh season finale that could wreck the show. (Unlike the Palladinos, who threw a wrench into their “Gilmore Girls” final episode with a certain love triangle, and the show never recovered.)

“The bottom line is CBS is trying to make deals for an eighth season, so we would be there in a supervisory role, but the storytelling we have will finish in the seventh year,” King told reporter Michael Ausiello. “That doesn’t mean we’re putting Alicia in her grave, because you couldn’t do an eighth season after that. But to our minds, we have always written with the idea we could end this season a certain way so that it would make it a satisfactory [conclusion to the] series.”

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From the "Hot Off The Press" thread (top of 'HDTV Programming' page).

In the same vein, it’s hard to imagine that “The Good Wife” would maintain the same tone without the Kings, who took the series from a fairly standard legal procedural and turned it into one of the best shows on television — regularly considered in the same category as prestige cable dramas, which generally get all the attention.

“The bottom line is CBS is trying to make deals for an eighth season, so we would be there in a supervisory role, but the storytelling we have will finish in the seventh year,” King told reporter Michael Ausiello. “That doesn’t mean we’re putting Alicia in her grave, because you couldn’t do an eighth season after that. But to our minds, we have always written with the idea we could end this season a certain way so that it would make it a satisfactory [conclusion to the] series.”
Makes sense as Alicia's blossoming has pretty much bloomed. I agree the "tone" would have to be different. Although not (solely) because the Kings are leaving rather Alicia isn't who she was and the tone (and direction) would have to be changed. I tend to think I'm more the exception than the rule but I would embrace a new story arc. It's about time...

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The GW/GG analogy is a stretch. While it's true that great shows are great because they come from creators with a consistent vision, that doesn't mean there can't be a new vision from a new source. The Kings aren't leaving amidst conflict and acrimony, and the other creative forces that make the show what it is would presumably remain in place.

OTOH, if they decide to wrap it up where the Kings originally planned to, it might just be best.

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I for one would actually be happy if the show ended after this season. For a few years, I always thought that The Good Wife was the best show on broadcast TV, and by a large margin too. The last couple of years have not been nearly as enjoyable for us - storylines, characters, - nothing is really working like the first few years. It doesn't help that Alicia has morphed into a rather unlikable person as of late, so we don't really cheer her on anymore either.
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There does seen to be very little Joy of Life in Alicia.
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To me this was a bounce back episode. More Cary, Luca, Eli and less of Peter and the campaign trail. And Matthew Lillard was funny.
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To me this was a bounce back episode. More Cary, Luca, Eli and less of Peter and the campaign trail. And Matthew Lillard was funny.
I think Mathew Lillard elevates any show he is on.
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I think Mathew Lillard elevates any show he is on.
He sure does and he has a pretty good singing voice. A big plus was Roby fling with Luca. She is one very sexy woman. It, looks, however like she may be jumping ship to Alicia's old firm (although maybe Alicia will too). I don't like what they've done to Dianne this season. She has that stick so far up her butt it's amazing that she can stand or walk. I hate to see Christine Baranski wasted the way she has been.
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Lillard was wonderful .Perhaps we will see more of Diane in future episodes.
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Perhaps Alicia will go back to the old firm. Good to see her forgive Eli
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Jason the investigator looks like the cat that swallowed the canary.

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Perhaps Alicia will go back to the old firm. Good to see her forgive Eli

I hope the closing scenes mark the end of the "Debbie Downer" arc, which I am very tired of.
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Feels almost like a reboot. Episode was frustrating to watch, as one plot element after another from the past six seasons was tossed by the wayside.

Will is replaced (along with Kalinda, finally). Eli is forgiven. Alicia goes back to the old firm with the new Will/Kalinda. Grace and Zach are swept under the rug (and what was that all about?). No more national politics.

At least maybe now the remaining episodes can involve the whole cast, perhaps in one rousing final arc, instead of everybody marking time until the band got back together.

Another season, especially without the Kings, would be a mistake.
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IMO, the best thing that could happen would be for Alicia to go back to, and Lucca to join, the old firm. I always thought the best episodes had the personal life, firm personnel dynamics, and courtroom cases mixed together. I haven't enjoyed it nearly as much with the political focus and Alicia separated from Carey and Dianne.

If this season is going to be the end of the series, I hope it ends with the main characters back together fighting the good fight.
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Bastards! CBS just announced this is the last season of Good Wife and we only have nine more episodes.
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Bastards! CBS just announced this is the last season of Good Wife and we only have nine more episodes.
It has been pretty much a forgone conclusion for about the last month after the Kings announced they were leaving the show.
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and that canary will soon be swallowing the cat ....
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Its time to end it.
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Not impressed with how or the fact that Alicia went back to the "firm" Felt rather unnatural and let's tie up loose ends. I did enjoy the cat and mouse with Diane however. Looks like they are circling the story arc right back to the premiere... should be interesting to see how far they go.

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I'm predicting the "good wife" will finally dump her philandering husband. And funny thing--Elliot Spitzer is back in the news today for allegedly attacking a woman.

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Not impressed with how or the fact that Alicia went back to the "firm" Felt rather unnatural and let's tie up loose ends. I did enjoy the cat and mouse with Diane however. Looks like they are circling the story arc right back to the premiere... should be interesting to see how far they go.
Yeah that was OK. Luca seems like a terrible fit in this button downed corporate machine. The way they've written Diane's character this season, it's a miracle that she can walk with that stick so far up her derriere.
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and that canary will soon be swallowing the cat ....
I see what you did there...
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I felt this was a much better episode than the last couple. The judge was very funny,
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Good episode tonight. Like them pulling old threads (didn't see NSA thread coming back) back in.
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Yes, I liked this episode. Too little too late, unfortunately, but it's still too bad we only have a few left!
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Even though A.V. Club gave it a B+ and their readers a B (so far) I think "Hearing" was a great episode. As is often the case I watched the opening twice and in this case if I didn't want to see the rest so baldly I easily could have viewed it a few more.

After all of these years it's nice to see Alicia unguarded and able to enjoy the moment. Her conversation with Diane was polar opposite to the previous one. Earlier I posted they appear to be bringing the story arc full circle and after this episode I wonder if they would end up at the "same" press conference that fired off the show and this time Alicia isn't the good wife... doesn't stand behind Peter.

It would be a satisfying ending and one that made the journey worthwhile for Alicia and for us the viewers. We both would feel our time was put to good use. And how could Will not be happy knowing Alicia is taking over right where he left off.

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One of the best episodes in awhile. So many different things going on, yet it didn't seem overwhelming. Eli and the handicapped toilet theme lived up to his name, Gold.
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One of the best episodes in awhile. So many different things going on, yet it didn't seem overwhelming. Eli and the handicapped toilet theme lived up to his name, Gold.
Not to mention the first 10 minutes which was hilarious. The "doorbell keeps ringing and more people cram into the apartment" gag is as old as the hills (going back to Groucho Marx ship cabin in A Night at the Opera). It still works like a charm if it's done well which it was last night. Jeffrey Dean Morgan was just terrific in showing Jason's complete bemusement as the counterpoint to Alicia's exasperation as the scene unfolded.

Will Patton as Elsbeth's almost as crazy husband has been a nice addition to the show and it was good to see Matthew Morrison in his post-Glee era back on TV (after his very successful return to Broadway in Finding Neverland).
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Not to mention the first 10 minutes which was hilarious. The "doorbell keeps ringing and more people cram into the apartment" gag is as old as the hills (going back to Groucho Marx ship cabin in A Night at the Opera).
I agree this was a brilliant execution, and a lot of fun, but the gag goes back waaaaay further than that,to Moliere's farces and English restoration comedies of the 1600s.

This was the best episode of The Good Wife in a long time. I hope the rest of the season goes this well.
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Wonderful episode,seems like they recaptured some of the magic from a couple of seasons ago.
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