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post #811 of 859 Old 04-25-2016, 10:47 AM
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So I guess the ironic conclusion of the series is going to be Alicia as Peter's defense attorney?

At least hopefully we've seen the last of Zack. What a creepy little obnoxious brat he always was.
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post #812 of 859 Old 04-25-2016, 02:22 PM
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About Zack... If he is supposed to be 19 now, was he 12 when the show started? Seems like he was older than that.
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I don't think the seasons are meant to correspond with years. There was one season (3?) that started the day after the previous one ended, for example.

As with much fiction, the passage of time is part of the construct.

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I think the final shot of this series should be on Jason, waking up, next to Alicia, in the morning and seeing her without makeup, as I saw her a few episodes back. Realizing his mistake, grabs his bat Lucille and heads to greener pastures and never looks back. fade to Alicia crying.
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Nope. It's gonna be Jason and Alicia riding off into the sunset ...
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Not much of a spoiler but the final scene of the series is Alicia and Diane. Margulies stated fans will either love it or hate it. Written by the Kings.
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Wow, spoiler tags please? I didn't want to see this!
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Makes sense. To a large degree I see Alicia taking Will's place in the firm. Something Diane would crave... back to simpler times. For Alicia being a partner could free her to a degree. Which is something she appears headed towards. Her longingly glance at Diane and her husband as well as her comment to them showed how important such has become.

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I wonder why all the affidavits about the affair showing a scorned woman getting even were not used. Seems its a great defense to obtain the sought after verdict. Does she stay with Peter?
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I wonder why all the affidavits about the affair showing a scorned woman getting even were not used. Seems its a great defense to obtain the sought after verdict. Does she stay with Peter?
Because the governor said he was not having an affair and he didn't want to use that defense since it wasn't true.

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Or too proud to admit it was true.
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why not admit to it. he admitted to sleeping with prositutes in open court.
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But this would be admitted to be unfaithful after he pledged never to cheat again.
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What's curious is... he appears willing to take the settlement offer, which is essentially admitting to guilt, for something that he says he didn't do... so it's a little confusing... unless he actually did do something wrong.

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Poll: Peter found Guilty or Innocent?



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Guilty. Goes away to prison for years, leaving Alicia free to run off into the sunset with Negan...
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I say he goes away after accepting the offer and she stays with him as "the good wife".
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Guilty. Goes away to prison for years, leaving Alicia free to run off into the sunset with Negan...
Remember he told Lucca if he was found guilty she wouldn't divorce him and consistently visit him in jail. Alicia even said as much when Peter asked if she would stay in touch... at least as far as visiting.

I don't have a strong feeling either way...

The first time it was thrown out and she stayed for the kids and the lack of any defined (at the time) better alternatives. And I'm guessing the driving force is where they want Alicia to end up... with her new revelations I wouldn't be surprised if she ended up with neither. Jason stating he wanted to "go away" at some point would mean leaving the firm. Yet again a man controlling her life to a large degree. My guess it's a little early... she needs to further grow into her new found self before that makes sense (if it ever does).

Now taking the semi spoiler posted a while back into account...

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Peter found guilty, Alicia ends it with both of them.
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Not much of a spoiler but the final scene of the series is Alicia and Diane. Margulies stated fans will either love it or hate it. Written by the Kings.


Count me in the hated it column last weeks episode was tremendously better this was a waste of my time.

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Like life itself it wasn't ended all neat and tidy and to a large degree the finale represents and reflects the entire run of the series. Most everything is gray... very little black and white.

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Nicely done. Alicia may be an essentially good person, but that makes her neither perfect nor a heroine. Her interests don't always align with those of her friends, colleagues, or even family.

And she's a lawyer.

There are many things that mitigate against her being a happy person, and it would have been wrong to tie a bow around the finale and make it seem she had solved her life.

Indeed, she could probably use some serious therapy right about now.

This was a great series. It was time for it to end, and I'm happy it ended well. Bravo.
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I wasn't unhappy with the ending. I was shocked that it left many things Alicia unanswered but at the same time it was in no way a horrible ending. It was not a disappointment as I felt with the Sopranos, IMHO.
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Earlier I posted they appear to be bringing the story arc full circle and after this episode I wonder if they would end up at the "same" press conference that fired off the show and this time Alicia isn't the good wife... doesn't stand behind Peter.

It would be a satisfying ending and one that made the journey worthwhile for Alicia and for us the viewers. We both would feel our time was put to good use. And how could Will not be happy knowing Alicia is taking over right where he left off.
Well she did attend the press conference but at least booted and Peter was left holding his own hand afterwards. I thought the shot of Peter standing at the end of the hall as she "ran" to her new life was poignant. Her life revolving around Peter was dead...


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Yeah, not a horrible ending, but did it reach an achievable excellence?

It did have it's moments, but I was left somewhat underwhelmed. My expectations were too high I guess.

Funny, I was just thinking, if not for the return of Wil, this series finale could have been a season finale.

Still, it is they who told us the story, they have the right to end it the way they like. They could have put a nice neat bow on it, but that isn't life.

I think of the series that get canceled and we all decry the lack of them being able to properly conclude the story. Well, here is an example of a series concluding open ended and I was left with that same kind of feeling...
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I mostly stopped watching after Will's demise, so it was good to "sort of" see him one last time.
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I didn't need a tight bow but IMO it tried to tug at people's heart but it didn't have any effect on me I understand the symbolism but IMO it was lackluster. They spent to much time on the trial and the Diane slap fell flat. The Good Wife's triumph was the superb writing and IMO they phoned it in or some higher exec nixed a good script.

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I also did not like this ending. It didn't have to be a ''happy ever after '' finish, but this just left too many problems in her life. Agreed that this finale spent too much time in court and not enough on everyones private lives. This episode also shows how important Will Gardner was to the quality of The Good Wife .
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Your problems don't end when people stop watching you on TV.

To me, the great message of this episode was when Jason said (in her mind) "Alicia, you don't know yourself at all, do you?" (Or words to that effect.) She obviously understands, on some level, that self-examination is the first step towards happiness, but instead has another glass of wine.

Alicia, by the end, was becoming hard to root for. This is not something that viewers of a long-running series will easily accept. But not all change is growth, and it's a courageous TV series that is willing to invest seven years in a lead character who demonstrates this. Alicia ended the series as a different person, and it was absorbing to follow those changes. That new Alicia, however, was arguably less "good" than she was at the start. More calculating, more self-centered, more indifferent to the damage she can do.


Amazing that this was a network TV show at all.

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