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post #31 of 3254 Old 03-17-2010, 12:43 PM
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Gah ...

There just isn't enough landscape in California now to add variety to television shows. At this point I think every crevice is being filmed for a show.

Or Vancouver. The rather dreary color palette of British Columbia serves as the backdrop for many a lower-budget TV show.
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The pilot was shot in Pittsburgh and suburban Kittaning, Pennsylvania and Washington, Pennsylvania with the subsequent 12 episodes having shot in California
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justified_(TV_series)

There are other links out there besides wiki, to verify this, but this was the easiest to answer your question.

I am not happy to hear that they are going to move it to California. I prefer when things are shot on location. I will bet that this decision will surly affect the look of the show.

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Gah ...

There just isn't enough landscape in California now to add variety to television shows. At this point I think every crevice is being filmed for a show.

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Or Vancouver. The rather dreary color palette of British Columbia serves as the backdrop for many a lower-budget TV show.

I'm not happy either, as you all have noted, California is extremely boring now as it's all been used, and Vancouver is getting to be easily spotted as well. What I'm really sick of is the same city/residential backlots that seem to show up everywhere now, you see the same buildings/streets layouts in hundreds of episodes of different shows, there's nothing they can do to disguise them anymore. You wonder if those Desperate Housewives know there's a serial killer living in their house, or that there's a body under the floorboards, or that the CSI team is digging through their garden.

Filming on location gives the show a very organic feel that no backlot or location shoot in SoCal can give, I thought the locations and scenery were one of the best parts of the show last night, I can only hope that the SoCal setting doesn't ruin it too much.
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Or Vancouver. The rather dreary color palette of British Columbia serves as the backdrop for many a lower-budget TV show.

I have to disagree.... I'll take a sub par phony California look any day, rather than lose it to the north side of the border. Sorry my friends up north but this is business. We need as many productions as we can get shot here in the States. ....And to be fair, if it were a Vancouver based show, I'd have no problem with it shot there. Also, there are plenty of places to shoot here in the US that would befit the low budget needs of any production.

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It is hard to imagine how they can pull it off in So. Cal, so much of the flavor of the pilot had to do with those locations. But, I hear they've done a pretty good job, so let's give them the benefit of the doubt until we see subsequent episodes.
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Western mountains look much different from the older, weathered, and heavily forested eastern mountain ranges like the Appalachians or Smokies. I'm disappointed to hear this show will not be shot on location. Those authentic locales a lot to do with my desire to watch it.

Look at 'Fringe'. When they stopped shooting on location in Boston for budgetary reasons and moved to Vancouver, every episode seems to now have that same overcast, monochromatic look. They still have location stills, of course, but who are they fooling?
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It is hard to imagine how they can pull it off in So. Cal, so much of the flavor of the pilot had to do with those locations. But, I hear they've done a pretty good job, so let's give them the benefit of the doubt until we see subsequent episodes.

Agree... I'm definitely going to stick around for the ride and by the way, good job with the writing.

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Look at 'Fringe'. When they stopped shooting on location in Boston for budgetary reasons and moved to Vancouver...

A lot of Fringe was shot here in NY. When they announced they were bailing on us, I did the same to them. It was only about the 4th or so episode, when it was announced, but I wasn’t getting into it and that was the pebble that tipped the scales for me to leave. This show is a different story altogether. I like the cast, the look and the overall feel.

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I suppose they'll use a bunch of stock footage shot in Appalachia for establishing shots, that sort of thing. Indoor locations can be filmed anywhere, of course. Still disappointing to hear.

'Fringe' is full o' fun, Larry. It ain't The X-Files, but it has its own appeal.
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'Fringe' is full o' fun, Larry. It ain't The X-Files, but it has its own appeal.

Who knows, maybe one day I'll give it another shot on Bluray. After all, you (and others here on AVS) got me to check out (and enjoy) Firefly, Mad Men (not as much as FF) and now I'm hooked on Son's of Anarchy. Still haven't picked up the Lost collection yet but maybe that one too.

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Good show...great start with a BANG! Walton Goggins stole the show doing his best Shanesqe renegrade racist. Lost of Action...but boy do I miss "The Shield".
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Who knows, maybe one day I’ll give it another shot on Bluray. After all, you (and others here on AVS) got me to check out (and enjoy) Firefly, Mad Men (not as much as FF) and now I’m hooked on Son’s of Anarchy. Still haven’t picked up the Lost collection yet but maybe that one too.

I gave the first season of LOST on DVD to a friend a few years ago. He was smitten in short order, called it "TV crack". On shiny disks, where you can satiate your inner glutton by binge-viewing, it's especially addictive. 'Fast Forward' was intended by ABC to be its methadone, but I expect LOST withdrawal to be pretty dang painful come May (only 9 hours left ).

'Sons of Anarchy' is on my DVD-To-Do list as well. I tried it for a couple of eps and gave up on it more because I just didn't have time than anything else, but thought I might give it another shot later. I was a biker once upon a time, but my rice-rocket would probably have gotten me a wedgie from those guys.
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I call Justified a winner. It looked great to both me and my wife. And she rejected Deadwood because of the steady stream of cussin'.

Yes, Walton Goggins almost stole the show, but Timothy Olyphant held his own. Olyphant seems to have been made for this role.

(One jarring note in the script: The rarely-heard term "gun thug" seemed to to be on the tip of each actor's tongue, in separate scenes, even though news reports — the only possible means for Goggins' character to hear it — are unlikely to use it.)

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Justified' Premiere Delivers For FX
Second only to series premiere of The Shield' in total viewers and key demo
By Alex Weprin -- Broadcasting & Cable, 3/17/2010 6:33:09 PM
The series premiere of Justified on FX delivered strong ratings for FX March 16. The program, which has drawn much critical acclaim, brought in 4.16 million total viewers, including 2.04 million adults 18-49, and 1.42 million men 18-49.

The total viewer and men 18-49 numbers are the best for the network since the series premiere of The Shield in March 2002 (4.83 million and 1.74 million, respectively).

Justified is the second major drama to make an impact for FX, with its last drama launch, Sons of Anarchy, becoming a bona fide hit for the network. Sons averaged 3.6 million viewers during its second season, which was up 66% from season one.
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Great first episode. I only wish we could have Mr. Woo and Al Swearengen move into town.
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Great first episode. I only wish we could have Mr. Woo and Al Swearengen move into town.

Now that would be fun...

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Liked the first episode. Sure, it had some sterotypes and will be interesting to see whether there are any good peope...

Quick question: Was it in HD? I tried watching on Dish Network and I thought that it should be HD, but I couldn't find the HD Channel. May be need to call Dish. I have the HD250. So, I should have FX HD...
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Liked the first episode. Sure, it had some sterotypes and will be interesting to see whether there are any good peope...

Quick question: Was it in HD? I tried watching on Dish Network and I thought that it should be HD, but I couldn't find the HD Channel. May be need to call Dish. I have the HD250. So, I should have FX HD...

Yes, it was in HD (via Directv). If a show is talked about in this section of the forum, it's in HD.

Currently testing 3D with Sammy DLP, shutter glasses, and HTPC
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Yes, it was in HD (via Directv). If a show is talked about in this section of the forum, it's in HD.

Dope. I jumped right to this page and didn't notice the thread location. Thanks for the info.
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Welcome to the 21st Century Seth Bullock! Wife and I liked what we saw in this episode. I hope they can continue the quality.

I am glad to see that they have been careful to cast believable actors in the roles. My biggest gripe with Hollywood is they really don't know how to cast for southern characters. Nick Searcy is perfect in the US Marshall's bureau chief. He speaks with a southern accent normally (he is from North Carolina) and has that "small town southern" aire about him. When he was in From the Earth to the Moon, he played Wisconsin born and raised Deke Slayton and while Searcy did a good job in the role, being the space buff I am, knowing Slayton DIDN'T speak with a southern accent, made the character less believable to me. My number one southern casting faux paux? The great actor Joe Pesci (who I like) as the southern David Ferrie in JFK. Pesci can play MANY roles other than a Mafia hood from Jersey, but a southerner, he can't. It would be like asking Emily Proctor to play a Jersey Girl. She would do a good job, but she would never be able to pull it off. That is a totally foreign world to her, like it was for Pesci. I hope they continue to keep that in mind when casting for this. I would hate they screw this show up with little stuff like that.

I also don't know how the California locales will work either. The Andy Griffin Show was shot in California and I can tell you, those lake locales don't look ANYTHING like the mountains of North Carolina or even the foothills of Mount Airy, NC, where that show is based on.


"Mount Pilot" of Andy Griffin fame. In reality, this is Pilot Mountain (and town of same name at the base), about 10 miles south of Mount Airy, NC and is one of three extent volcano domes in the area. Never saw anything like that on the show.

Will be interesting to see how the mountains of California will translate into the coal fields of WV.

But for the time being, we in.

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My number one southern casting faux paux? The great actor Joe Pesci (who I like) as the southern David Ferrie in JFK. Pesci can play MANY roles other than a Mafia hood from Jersey, but a southerner, he can't. It would be like asking Emily Proctor to play a Jersey Girl. She would do a good job, but she would never be able to pull it off. That is a totally foreign world to her, like it was for Pesci.

Joe Pesci was a star commodity at that point in his career. He was the hot ticket in Hollywood fresh off his first class performance in Goodfellas and also the success of Home Alone. Perhaps he was in over his head in JFK, but I'm sure the producers were ecstatic to have him in their film-- in any role. His bad accent was the least of that films problems.

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I only saw part of the episode unfortunately, but I really enjoyed it. I will be watching in the future for sure. Could turn out to be a really great show.

Vancouver B.C. as dreary and colorless is...well...nuts.
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Joe Pesci was a star commodity at that point in his career. He was the hot ticket in Hollywood fresh off his first class performance in Goodfellas and also the success of Home Alone. Perhaps he was in over his head in JFK, but I'm sure the producers were ecstatic to have him in their film-- in any role. His bad accent was the least of that films problems.

You make my point.

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You make my point.

I wasn't disagreeing, just adding...

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I only saw part of the episode unfortunately, but I really enjoyed it. I will be watching in the future for sure. Could turn out to be a really great show.

It's repeated late tonight if you want to see what you missed.


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I missed the first episode of "Justified" but have it scheduled on my Dish DVR now.

During my youth I met the constable of Davy, WV who killed 12 or 13 men during his career as a lawman. He described his philosophy to me as this: "If I think a fellow is about to kill me, I kill him first." That fits well with the Elmore Leonard genre, and is fairly characteristic of many men (but not all!) in the southern WV and KY coalfields. Which is, take no BS unless the guy giving it to you is as big and tough as he thinks he is and you aren't carrying anything to resize him with. Archieguy may know what I'm talking about. From the comments I've read here, I have hopes for this show.

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I wasn't disagreeing, just adding...

Gotcha! Just agreeing with your agreeing. (does that make ANY sense?)

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I only saw part of the episode unfortunately....

My Dishnetwork DVR only recorded 9 minutes of the episode. 9 of 60, I deleted the recording without watching it. I don't see any repeats of Episode 2, until after the new Episode 3 and 3 premiers
Oh well, not my fault I don't think.
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During my youth I met the constable of Davy, WV who killed 12 or 13 men during his career as a lawman. He described his philosophy to me as this: "If I think a fellow is about to kill me, I kill him first." That fits well with the Elmore Leonard genre, and is fairly characteristic of many men (but not all!) in the southern WV and KY coalfields. Which is, take no BS unless the guy giving it to you is as big and tough as he thinks he is and you aren't carrying anything to resize him with. Archiguy may know what I'm talking about.

Yup. Not a lot of subtle nuance up in them thar hills.
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I saw the "Justified" Episode 1 tonight (Sunday) and thought it was excellent. This will be a treat for my viewing this spring. I didn't see Episode 2 in the guide, maybe it hasn't been shown yet, with Episode 3 coming up on the 23rd. (It was nice to see some genuine US location scenery in the first Episode.)

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The pilot was shot in Pittsburgh and suburban Kittaning, Pennsylvania and Washington, Pennsylvania while the subsequent 12 episodes were shot in California.
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