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It's been years since I had HBO and was surprised that it wasn't in Dolby Digital, this is through Dish Network. Odd thing is, all the other HBO channels are in DD but, HBO and HBO2 (and there western counterparts) are not. Is this a Dish issue? Why would Dish pass DD for all the HBO channels except the main 2 ones? Now I have to decide if I want to reprogram my DVR to record it from one of the other channels later in the week just to get 5.1 audio.
HBO and HBO West were in 5.1. Must be a Dish issue.

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Looks like the HBO Go app. will have maps.

Any ideas if that's going to be available to D* subscribers?
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Hbogo.com already there, with maps. Episode 2 was there last night. And yes, available to Directv HBO subscribers. I assume app will be as well.
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Looks like the HBO Go app. will have maps.

Any ideas if that's going to be available to D* subscribers?

According to their website it should already be available.
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Anyone else take perverse pleasure in reading the speculations by the unread in the non-spoiler thread?
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Anyone else take perverse pleasure in reading the speculations by the unread in the non-spoiler thread?

Most definitely. I also am enjoying unread friends complain how "predictable the villains are".
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Yeah, I'm enjoying that as well. They have no idea what they're in for with this series.
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This is one of those shows where the end of the episode causes a groan to escape from my throat.

Dang, I can't wait for next Sunday!

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This is one of those shows where the end of the episode causes a groan to escape from my throat.

Dang, I can't wait for next Sunday!

I agree the show is compelling. Actually, I wish I hadn't read the first 3 books years ago...and I won't be reading anymore.

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I agree the series is compelling, however I'm taking a different approach. After seeing the 1st episode, I loaded up the book on my tablet and have been reading along during the week. I'm not bothered by spoilers but I'm trying not to get too far ahead of the series as I go. I find it interesting to see the story play out on screen while the print copy is still fresh in my mind. I just finished the section where Dany is taught how to please her husband and it was interesting to compare that to how she was taught in the show. It also helps with the comprehension as I am getting not only a recap with the show, but also a different perspective presented. For example, after watching the show, I didn't understand the significance of the title "Snow", whereas after reading the book so far, I understand it is a term given for those with no known last name (bastards.) Admittedly, I may have missed the explanation in the show, but for me it's like having to people tell the same story.

And what a story. The only character I don't find interesting is Catelyn. Every other character, especially the direwolves, is intriguing and I find myself anticipating there next move like Dany and her defiance to her brother. Classic!

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I agree the series is compelling, however I'm taking a different approach. After seeing the 1st episode, I loaded up the book on my tablet and have been reading along during the week. I'm not bothered by spoilers but I'm trying not to get too far ahead of the series as I go. I find it interesting to see the story play out on screen while the print copy is still fresh in my mind. I just finished the section where Dany is taught how to please her husband and it was interesting to compare that to how she was taught in the show. It also helps with the comprehension as I am getting not only a recap with the show, but also a different perspective presented. For example, after watching the show, I didn't understand the significance of the title "Snow", whereas after reading the book so far, I understand it is a term given for those with no known last name (bastards.) Admittedly, I may have missed the explanation in the show, but for me it's like having to people tell the same story.

And what a story. The only character I don't find interesting is Catelyn. Every other character, especially the direwolves, is intriguing and I find myself anticipating there next move like Dany and her defiance to her brother. Classic!

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Beltsville, MD...I lived there a couple of years as a teenager, many, many years ago. Went to High Point HS. They were great years.

Sounds like a good way to enjoy the books and series. Personally, I lost interest in the books after the 2nd (better) novel. I'm not sure I finished the 3rd. Part of it might have been the long wait between each. Mostly because I found some storylines, not boring, just not likeable...as are many of the characters (to me) which includes Catelyn.

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yep, HP HS is still there, I'm not to far from it. It's gone downhill these days but still not as bad as Bmore, where I went to High School.

I honestly don't know if I'd keep interest in the book without the visuals from the show. I tried doing the same with True Blood, but lost interest as they veered away from the books. I may do some reading up on the Borgais, another interesting story, but for now, I've been perusing wikipedia as I go along w/ that show.
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Looks like the HBO Go app. will have maps.

Any ideas if that's going to be available to D* subscribers?

It will be available to D* subscribers. HBO Go will be avaiable on May 2 according to what I've read.
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For example, after watching the show, I didn't understand the significance of the title "Snow", whereas after reading the book so far, I understand it is a term given for those with no known last name (bastards.)

It is a name, or treated as such. It's the one used in the north -- each region has its own. Hrm, let's see how many I can remember...

North - Snow
Iron Islands - Pyke
Riverlands - Rivers
Vale of Arryn - Stone
Dorne - Sand
Westlands (Casterly Rock, etc.) - Hill
Highgarden (the Reach) - Flowers
King's Landing and the Crownlands - Waters

I think I am missing one but I am too lazy to look at a map and jog my memory
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I agree the show is compelling. Actually, I wish I hadn't read the first 3 books years ago...and I won't be reading anymore.

I'll get my Game of Thrones fix WITHOUT reading the novels....

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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I think this show has been a massive snooze-fest so far. I can't tell which one puts me to sleep faster, this one or Camelot. And I'm a big medieval fantasy fan, although I haven't read these books (perhaps this is the problem, there's way too much insider stuff going on here).

I keep waiting for something interesting to happen but very little does - the kid gets thrown out of the tower and then someone tries to kill him. That's pretty much it. Camelot is even worse, because nothing happens on that one - it's just a glorified soap.

I hope the action picks up soon - right now Merlin has both these shows beat, although it's definitely light-hearted and cheesy fare. Hell even Legend of the Seeker was way better than this.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I think this show has been a massive snooze-fest so far...

As a far of the books and the TV series, I have to be honest and say I'm surprised I haven't seen more comments like this, here and around the web. I find the show very compelling, but only as an extension of the books into a visual medium. I'm pretty sure I'd find it overly talky and a bit confusing if I wasn't aware of all the backstory and didn't have a window into the characters' thoughts.

It isn't necessarily a lack of action that is the problem, just that there hasn't been much that is making me care about this "game of thrones" that is being played. Maybe once Ned gets to King's Landing and the intrigue ramps up I'll change my mind. But I'm a bit worried that Littlefinger and Varys will just add to the confusion and yak a lot without helping to draw the viewer into the story.

That is only my feeling when I try to imagine myself watching without any knowledge of the books. My real self is loving the show. If it was being produced solely for the enjoyment of fans of the books, they are succeeding immensely, IMO. So I'm not complaining at all, but I am surprised that I haven't seen more comments like slowbiscuit's.
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If it was being produced solely for the enjoyment of fans of the books, they are succeeding immensely, IMO. So I'm not complaining at all, but I am surprised that I haven't seen more comments like slowbiscuit's.

Some people have said the same thing about THE BORGIAS, even though there is more plotting and killings then we've seen on GoT so far! I disagree and find both shows exceptional. I have not read the Martin books but what I have seen so far has garnered and held my attention. I don't mind getting immersed in these worlds and getting to know the characters, as I am sure that it will pay off and carry more weight when stakes get higher. By comparison, shows like MERLIN (unwatchable for me, but then...it's on SyFy and nothing they show is watchable) and CAMELOT (agree with slowbiscuit that it's a snoozer) are cheap and over, as far as I'm concerned. GoT is literate, has versimilitude, strong characters and production values, and fine acting. I'm in for the long run.

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HBO GO app is now available in the Apple App store. Downloading it now.

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Looks like the HBO Go app. will have maps.

Any ideas if that's going to be available to D* subscribers?

Can't find the maps, which is what I really wanted to look at.

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That is only my feeling when I try to imagine myself watching without any knowledge of the books.

Well, as someone who has not read the books, I can say that the show is interesting, but has been a bit slow. There has been a lot of dialog and long stares, while any action scenes fly by in a few seconds. But, the biggest factor is the environment in Winterfell is just so dark, bland, and depressing. I kinda feel like this is the beginning to "The Wizard of Oz", where it is filmed in black/white. I am ready for the full color portion to begin!

Don't get me wrong, I look forward to every episode of this series. But after the dramatic opening scene ....it has been mostly slow, with not much go. However, I am encouraged by the enthusiasm of the book-readers, and am looking forward to the rest of the season.
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I agree the series is compelling, however I'm taking a different approach. After seeing the 1st episode, I loaded up the book on my tablet and have been reading along during the week. I'm not bothered by spoilers but I'm trying not to get too far ahead of the series as I go. I find it interesting to see the story play out on screen while the print copy is still fresh in my mind. I just finished the section where Dany is taught how to please her husband and it was interesting to compare that to how she was taught in the show. It also helps with the comprehension as I am getting not only a recap with the show, but also a different perspective presented. For example, after watching the show, I didn't understand the significance of the title "Snow", whereas after reading the book so far, I understand it is a term given for those with no known last name (bastards.) Admittedly, I may have missed the explanation in the show, but for me it's like having to people tell the same story.

And what a story. The only character I don't find interesting is Catelyn. Every other character, especially the direwolves, is intriguing and I find myself anticipating there next move like Dany and her defiance to her brother. Classic!

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I did the same thing. Saw ep 1 and went and downloaded the books to my Nook Color. The only problem I am having is trying not to get ahead of the shows and it is really hard.

I love this show and how it kept the integrity of the books.

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It's not the nudity that bothers me, it's the graphic sex. Even if it is in the books, it just isn't necessary on screen. It isn't even necessry in order to be "faithful to the books." You can inform the viewers that somebody is a sex-fiend without showing it. You can inform the viewers that somebody is raped without showing it. Thus, I don't really buy the "character devlopment" argument. Does it really enhance a character to know that, hey, he really likes it doggie-style!

Given the pattern of other HBO shows, it is clear that HBO is once again intentionally working a prurient angle into its show (and it may be why HBO was so interested in the first place). It's a shame, because it cheapens the story. I generally enjoy the HBO series (the John from Cincinatti flop aside), but I actually gave up on True Blood because it devolved into a porn. The writers cared more about about showing violent sex than they did about a decent story.

HBO isn't your network then. Sex is sex on screen. But it ain't porn.

As fro True Blood, it's whole premise was violence, sex and soapy fantasy storylines. You're not missing much after the horrible season 2 and 3 endings. It's the only HBO show in recent memory I gave up on because it got stupid.

Anyways, loving this series so far. HBO slams one out of the park yet again!
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Your 4 rules were not near strict enough for a show thread. What someone thinks isn't giving anything away almost always does.

But now that there is a thread with no spoilers allowed, this thread becomes something akin to the "Wild West". People enter at their own risk, and the usage of spoiler tags is left up to the individual posters. It's up to the participants to come to their own consensus as to the preferred etiquette - but it is unenforceable, so members will need to keep away from the thread if they are not happy with the amount of information they are getting exposed to.

We rarely do Spoilers/No-Spoilers threads because we always have spoiler tags available for the occasional spoiler. However, if a show has an abundance of spoilers available - like in this case - it becomes impossible to carry on two separate conversations (with tags & without tags) and inevitably, someone will respond to a tagged post with an answer that isn't tagged. Plus it just becomes difficult to read.

Hmm, probably too late, but doesn't the dedicated show thread usually get the "no spoiler" treatment, and the smaller "new thread" allow spoilers?

This thread already had a lot of non-spoiler info, and reading from page one I've now hit this "warning" and it seems spoilers are going to be everywhere after. I also misread the headline, since most original show threads are always "no spoilers" and only info from the last aired show.



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Pretty good, though slow ep. Didn't care that much for the added scenes, only missing scene I really wish we'd gotten was Lady's bones returning to Winterfell and the wolves howling.
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Pretty good, though slow ep. Didn't care that much for the added scenes, only missing scene I really wish we'd gotten was Lady's bones returning to Winterfell and the wolves howling.

Agree on both counts, good but slow. I think I read somewhere that things pick up a lot from the 5th or 6th episode and are break neck until the end.

Tyrion is my favorite character in the book and now in the series as well. I think Dinklage has nailed him.
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Also, when Ned read off the Tourney prizes I think he listed prizes for the winner, second, and archery. I'll be bummed if there's no melee - it was a plot point for a planned attempt on Robert and I'll miss the mad monk and his flaming sword.
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Has anyone noticed Jaime Lannistar and Prince Charming (from Shrek) are body-doubles????

For the love of all that is Holy, do something different with Lannistar's hair!

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As expected the roster of despicable characters grows...

I don't lurk as much as I used to and I NEVER listen. Comes from being old and cynical.

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I'll get my Game of Thrones fix WITHOUT reading the novels....

Same here. A quick read of a wiki or 2 and a look at the HBO Map layout & I'm good.

Didn't think I'd like another Sean Bean Medieval but I was wrong.
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Does it really enhance a character to know that, hey, he really likes it doggie-style!

- Funny how it turns out it was a plot point after all.
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