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post #31 of 60 Old 09-12-2010, 02:46 PM
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Every time I watch the PQ of the Giants game it makes me wish I could be a Jets fan. I wish I were stinking rich because I'd buy Fox the damn cameras. Man they killing me with the PQ quality.

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SF @ SEA is in HD on NFL RedZone.

WNYW-DT NYC FiOS TV GB @ PHI

PQ is better then CAR @ NYG, which I just don't get being the stadium in NJ is new.

The SD feed on WNYW 5.2 has normal looking video unlike CAR @ NYG had.
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SF/SEA is HD on NFLST and looks good.
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SF-SEA is in HD via KCPQ on Shaw Cable. Looks decent.
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Another embarrassing display by fox. I just do not understand how they are so consistently bad at producing football games. Why? Why bother? The concept of fox covering the NFL needs to be taken behind the shed and put out of it's misery. Steelers game was crap, giants game was crap, seahawks game is crap, green bay game is crap. Why do they bother? I just don't get it.
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Is that jumping-robotic-transformer-guy graphic officially dead? I haven't seen him on Fox today. I sure hope he was melted down and added to the scrap heap of bad 80's computer graphics.
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Another embarrassing display by fox. I just do not understand how they are so consistently bad at producing football games. Why? Why bother? The concept of fox covering the NFL needs to be taken behind the shed and put out of it's misery. Steelers game was crap, giants game was crap, seahawks game is crap, green bay game is crap. Why do they bother? I just don't get it.

How about defining what "crap" is? Is it the PQ, or the production you think is crap?

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Halftime highlights from the Fox studio look terrible. Looks like 480i complete with interlacing artifacts.
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Halftime highlights from the Fox studio look terrible. Looks like 480i complete with interlacing artifacts.

It is because it is.

Pre-game, half-time, and post-game shows on FOX are NOT in HD. They never have been.

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Eagles-Packers looks really good. WTTG Fox 5 DC via FiOS.

Can't believe Fox still has to drop to SD for game breaks though. Assuming that since it hasn't happened today it will at least be 2011 before it does, you realize Fox's gamebreaks, pregame, halftime, and postgame shows might be some of (if not the) very last broadcast programming to transition to HD? That's sort of unbelievable.
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Main camera guy in Philly is definitely framing for 4:3.
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What happened to framing for 16:9 and moving the score bug to the corner? That was a good idea, so why did they drop it?

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What happened to framing for 16:9 and moving the score bug to the corner? That was a good idea, so why did they drop it?

They are giving the cable companies a little time. It will supposedly happen "very soon," which I assume means either next week or Week 3.
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Any chance FOX will dump GB @ PHO for AZ @ STL or are we stuck with this crap game here on WNYW in NYC because it's the #1 game on the FOX schedule?

ETA: It's now just a 10 point lead so I doubt FOX will be switching.
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I'm watching GB @ PHI on Dish Network in Houston, Texas on KRIV.


The game switched from HD to SD feed, but commercials appeared to still be in HD. Is this my problem or is everyone experiencing this?
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Any chance FOX will dump GB @ PHO for AZ @ STL or are we stuck with this crap game here on WNYW in NYC because it's the #1 game on the FOX schedule?

Yeah, we're stuck with a one score game late in the 4th.

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I'm watching GB @ PHI on Dish Network in Houston, Texas on KRIV.


The game switched from HD to SD feed, but commercials appeared to still be in HD. Is this my problem or is everyone experiencing this?

No problems in Detroit, WJBK-DT FOX via Comcast, although I just tuned in right now.

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Any chance FOX will dump GB @ PHO for AZ @ STL or are we stuck with this crap game here on WNYW in NYC because it's the #1 game on the FOX schedule?

ETA: It's now just a 10 point lead so I doubt FOX will be switching.

Now you've got the tail end of Cards @ Rams.

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Ken: I just assumed you knew I was talking about the Giants.. Its 334p according to my post, I'm from Long Island, what other game would I be watching? Bengals vs. Pats?

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Ken: I just assumed you knew I was talking about the Giants.. Its 334p according to my post, I'm from Long Island, what other game would I be watching? Bengals vs. Pats?

It's easier for everyone reading if locations, stations, and providers are given.

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By "crap" I mean a brutal picture. Soft, fuzzy, cloudy, dull colours, looks like someone put vaseline on the camera lens. It's like this every week, every game, every Sunday, every year. Watched today on kcpq in Seattle and wutv in buffalo via Rogers cable in Toronto on a calibrated 6010.
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Regarding the NFL scoreboard in the upper right showing the scores of other games, if the game is a final, why does FOX put :00 F next to it? Just an F for final is sufficient.
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Looks like Fox is benefiting from ESPN being in town for MNF as they have use of the skycam for the NYG game.

It's funny. I was at the game and the crew did not put the camera up till the beginning of the second quarter.
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By "crap" I mean a brutal picture. Soft, fuzzy, cloudy, dull colours, looks like someone put vaseline on the camera lens. It's like this every week, every game, every Sunday, every year. Watched today on kcpq in Seattle and wutv in buffalo via Rogers cable in Toronto on a calibrated 6010.

Exactly right.
I post about what total crap FOX is on another thread about FOX and my post gets deleted.
Perhaps because I'm not a Steelers fanatic like the mod.

 

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Regarding the NFL scoreboard in the upper right showing the scores of other games, if the game is a final, why does FOX put :00 F next to it? Just an F for final is sufficient.

I have a feeling that was a data error, and I bet you won't see that next week.

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It is because it is.

Pre-game, half-time, and post-game shows on FOX are NOT in HD. They never have been.

I knew that, but that doesn't mean I can't complain about it for the 10th year in a row.
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Is that jumping-robotic-transformer-guy graphic officially dead? I haven't seen him on Fox today. I sure hope he was melted down and added to the scrap heap of bad 80's computer graphics.

I saw it joking around with The King (of Burger King) at one point in a toss to/from commercials during the GB/PHI game.
I think you might be right though, I don't remember seeing it much during the game. Can we say that the football robot is more of a special-purpose player nowadays ?
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I saw the Carolina Panthers/New York Giants game on KSWB-Fox 5/69 via Time Warner Cable in Carlsbad, CA and to me the HD picture quality looked pretty good. It looked crisp and clear. I was bummed that Fox put the graphics in 4:3 safe mode as opposed putting it for 16:9. Hopefully that will get resolved. I wish Fox could work on their digital dolby 5.1. There were times the audio sounded hollow especially compared to CBS, which has "rich" sounds that were lifelike.

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Exactly right.
I post about what total crap FOX is on another thread about FOX and my post gets deleted.
Perhaps because I'm not a Steelers fanatic like the mod.

Could be in the context, too. Plus, I was kind of specific.

The jittering and dropouts were killing me, but he PQ via NFLST seemed superb. I admit, I didn't watch anything via our affiliate for comparison, but all of the FOX games I checked out on ST had above-par PQ.

Walking the fine line between jaw-dropping and a plain ol' yawn.
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Could be in the context, too. Plus, I was kind of specific.

The jittering and dropouts were killing me, but he PQ via NFLST seemed superb. I admit, I didn't watch anything via our affiliate for comparison, but all of the FOX games I checked out on ST had above-par PQ.

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