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I enjoyed the series premier last night. I've only taken to the Special Victims Unit series. Maybe I'll grow to like Law & Order: Los Angeles as well.

Anybody else watch it? Thoughts?
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I forgot to DVR this.

I guess the marketing geniuses who thought replacing the L.A. Times front page with a mock up, didn't pull me in.

I see it repeats Saturday. I will check it out.
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I watched it. I thought it was good and it certainly has some pretty decent potential with Hollywood storylines.

But it also feels much different...sunny, clean, a bit breezy...like the exact opposite of L&O NY. I doubt we'll see the LA DA's sitting around their offices at night, plumbing the depths of their souls.
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Let's hope that starting with episode 2, they bring back a proper opening (voice over plus a rendition of L&O theme song).
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Law and Order: Los Angeles (LOLA)...

Decent for the first show, but a little plot thin--though there were some nice twists.

One (or more) reviewers took a look at LOLA through the eyes of "Dragnet". I agree. This is as close as you'll get to "Dragnet" in 2010 and beyond. And, that's a PLUS.

Production was excellent. Crisp shots of places not often seen in TV shot in Los Angeles.

This one is a keeper as I expect the story lines to improve and the cinematography to continue to be outstanding.
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I wish they would air Law and Order UK just to see how it would do.
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I thought it was good for a premier. I thought the detectives did a good job. I am still undecided about the prosecutors. Give it time. I am sure it will have a year to find its niche.

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I wish they would air Law and Order UK just to see how it would do.

DONE (on cable's BBC America though) starting this Sunday night: http://www.bbcamerica.com/tvschedule.jsp (scroll down to 10:30PM ET)
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I watched it. I thought it was good and it certainly has some pretty decent potential with Hollywood storylines.

But it also feels much different...sunny, clean, a bit breezy...like the exact opposite of L&O NY. I doubt we'll see the LA DA's sitting around their offices at night, plumbing the depths of their souls.

Wait they have souls?
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Let's hope that starting with episode 2, they bring back a proper opening (voice over plus a rendition of L&O theme song).

I'm looking forward to a full 2 minute version of the theme song, but the diddy they played last night right before the first commerical sounds promising.
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Law and Order: Los Angeles (LOLA)...

Decent for the first show, but a little plot thin--though there were some nice twists.

One (or more) reviewers took a look at LOLA through the eyes of "Dragnet". I agree. This is as close as you'll get to "Dragnet" in 2010 and beyond. And, that's a PLUS.

Production was excellent. Crisp shots of places not often seen in TV shot in Los Angeles.

This one is a keeper as I expect the story lines to improve and the cinematography to continue to be outstanding.

I miss the revamped Dragnet they had with Ed O'Neill, I wish they'd bring that back but now that he's stuck with Modern Family I doubt it for now.
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I wish they would air Law and Order UK just to see how it would do.

You mean you don't get BBC America? I hear its coming up soon, and I'm interested to see the comparison. Something tells me theres not going to be any daylight, high speed chases, out of control detectives (Elliot Stabler) cranky DA's (Jack McCoy), really cool detectives like Jessy L. Martin, or special guest stars, but we'll see.

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Watched this last nite for the first time..Good episode, typical L & O drama..I like Terrence Howard who priced himself out of IronMan II movie.. Skeet Ulrich is good and last nite featured his co star from his old "Jericho" show..

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Ah right, he played the farmer. Good catch.

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Just in case you haven't heard the news, "LOLA" has been renewed for the rest of the season with a full 22-episode order: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post19355347.
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Just in case you haven't heard the news, "LOLA" has been renewed for the rest of the season with a full 22-episode order: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post19355347.

Awesome!

I'm really liking this show. Can't wait for the next episode
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Glad to hear it. I like this show and it is the only thing I watch on Wed night.

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Great stuff.
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I don't know... very mixed bag last night for the "LOLA" reboot. Molina made a seamless transition from ADA to detective (great interrogation scene on the 2nd episode) but the cases/writing were average at best and bordered on kiddie murder porn. And there's such a disconnect between how pretty every shot looks and the gruesome nature of the crimes being solved/tried. Either LA needs to be lit more noir-ish or the show has to tone down the graphic stuff, but then without either it's not really "L&O." Horrible intro and music, came across as a cosmetics commercial (but at least the show now has a title sequence). Why did Corey shave? He looks weird now without the 'stache. Love how Ruberosa just shows up at the LA police precinct and, without any explanation (of why she's there or what happened to the previous female ADA), we're off and running with the case... classic "L&O" minimalism. And man, is it me or is Peter Coyote the most a**hole DA that's ever been on a "L&O" show? Political animal to the core without an ounce of humanity. I'd take Branch over this guy any day, and I freaking hated Thompson.

Will continue to watch because, frankly, there's little else besides "SVU" and "L&O: UK" (which runs circles around this LA transplant) for the diehard "L&O" fan to latch onto besides the TNT repeats. I'd be extremely surprised if "LOLA" makes it to a 2nd season, but if it does then maybe it'll get better because it cannot get any worse than those awkward first episodes with Skeet (some of which we haven't even seen yet, but we will when NBC dumps the unaired Det. Winters episodes of "LOLA" in June).
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Glad they brought back the classic L&O trappings, but the new theme song is awful.
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Love how Ruberosa just shows up at the LA police precinct and, without any explanation (of why she's there or what happened to the previous female ADA), we're off and running with the case... classic "L&O" minimalism.

Hey....Connie's now here & she's HOT!!!! Who cares about "details"?

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thought that it was one big 2hr episode instead of 2 -1hr episodes.. So Casar walks after all the killings and they go right into another entirely different case?

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Yep, Cesar is bound to return to get his comeuppance. But Wolf & Co. better wrap this one up before the season is up and not save it for a second season. Ratings are in and they're not good at all: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post20293878.
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A minor back story on why Connie Rubirosa is now in LA instead of being a number 2 under McCoy and Cutter would help. She was, like, just there, in her premiere on L&O:LA.
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In case you missed L&O:UK, they've had their 'Michael Moriarity departs' moment with Ben Daniels on the most recent episode of that series (his Ben Steel character resigned after being tried but found not guilty of corruption of justice - or whatever the charge was).

Sort of like L&O mother ship - MM left the series also after season 4.
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Well, its still not the original, but it was at least much better than what their first try at LO:LA was last fall.

But still, doesn't hold up to the original.
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In case you missed L&O:UK, they've had their 'Michael Moriarity departs' moment with Ben Daniels on the most recent episode of that series (his Ben Steel character resigned after being tried but found not guilty of corruption of justice - or whatever the charge was).

Sort of like L&O mother ship - MM left the series also after season 4.

This series is really good, fans of the original should be watching it. Disappointed that Ben is leaving, he's probably the best in that role since Moriarty, especially given the constraints of the British legal system that doesn't allow the prosecutors to leave the desk.
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I really like the LA show. Unfortunately they killed off one of the reasons why I liked it. The ep about Snake Foot was rediculous however. How much of it was devoted to getting the boy to talk? I was tempted to FF to the obvious part where he was killed. The only question was whether his whole family would go too. So there the kid was safe in a lockup for his protection. The guard allowed someone to just waltz in "I'm an interpreter", w/out showing ID, kill the boy and walk out an unattended back door. Almost as rediculous as the Nate Haskell switcheroo in CSI recently.
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I enjoyed the episode last night.
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"Chuck" and "Law & Order: Los Angeles" were up 8% in the demo compared to a week ago (1.4 each, 1.3 the week before... miles behind "Castle's" 2.9 and "Hawaii Five-0's" 2.4) while "The Event" was flat (1.3). Call me crazy, but if it continues to inch up a little bit at a time (and "LOLA" will have the benefit of all-new episodes after Labor Day while ABC and CBS will be full-on repeats), I can see Dick Wolf's procedural surviving to live another season while "Chuck" and "The Event" go bye-bye. Comcast would slash the budget (goodbye expensive actors like Terrence Howard) and definitely move it to another night, but NBC stands to profit long-term if "LOLA" can be kept alive and batting below-average on the hopes it builds. And yes, I'm biased because I'm a "L&O" whore and last night's episode was the best "LOLA" installment yet. Everything (premise, character backstories/interaction, the law predicaments, etc.) clicked and even Peter Coyote's annoying DA got a moment of humanity to make him relatable. First time I watched "LOLA" and wasn't distracted by comparisons (in my mind) of how inferior it was to the NY-based "L&O" shows.

Sing it: 'All that I'm saying... is give "LOLA" a(nother) chance...'
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BTW, did anyone notice the brand of HDTV that the L.A. DA has in his office (when watching news coverage)? I knew there was a reason Hardin rubbed me the wrong way, he shops at Best Buy (Insignia HDTV).
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Critic's Notes
A new order in 'Law & Order: L.A.'
The struggling first-season series has been forced to retool in the hopes of finding an audience for this West Coast outpost of a once-powerful franchise.
By Robert Lloyd, Los Angeles Times - May 11th, 2011

It has been a hallmark of the series "Law & Order" that its format which lasted two decades in its original flavor and lives on in the current first season of NBC's "Law & Order: Los Angeles," or "LOLA" has mattered as much as the characters who inhabit it. But of the many actors who have passed through this system over the years, perhaps none has departed quite as remarkably as did Skeet Ulrich, formerly the top-billed star of the L.A. franchise, who lasted all of 11 episodes as Det. Rex Winters before going down in a hail of bullets April 11.

Ulrich's final episode, the first "LOLA" to run after a four-month midseason hiatus, was promoted with much solemn fanfare, as if it were the fulfillment of a meaningful and considered dramatic arc and not part of some desperate internal realignment. (If anything, with his killer cut loose in a flurry of improbable jurisprudence, it's the beginning of a dramatic arc, should "LOLA" live that long.) On the face of it, this makes Ulrich looks like the Problem That Needed Fixing, but it would be wrong to heap too much blame on him. I found his natural stolidity appealing and quite in keeping with the house style. And he seemed like a real policeman.

"Law & Order" itself may be running out of juice: the original was axed on the verge of its becoming television's longest-running drama (it tied but did not surpass "Gunsmoke"); "Law & Order: Criminal Intent," which NBC shares with USA to split costs, is in its final season, and though "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" is the fourth-place network's highest-rated drama, that is not saying much these days. (It finished 44th last year.)

Still, looking again over his episodes, it's clear that there are some actors who can live in creator Dick Wolf's universe more comfortably than others sincere Sam Waterston and wry Jerry Orbach are the prime examples and that much of what makes for success there is the ability to distract the viewer from the fact that, underneath its veneer of naturalism, the franchise is heavily stylized, with a tendency toward corn and cliché. The short scenes that are its building blocks leave little room for casual talk, and the series runs on speeches, sermons and tough-guy quips. "If the STDs don't get you, the blunt-force trauma will."

Ulrich could sound strained in this melodramatic key, and the strain could expose the seams. But to be fair, Terrence Howard, another even-tempered actor, also has trouble with the righteous attitudes he's required as deputy district attorney to strike, while, conversely, Alfred Molina, who until the reboot alternated weeks with Howard, could make too much of a meal of them.

Wolf and NBC may have bet on West Coast exotica to invigorate the franchise, but New York itself has always acted as a corrective to the melodrama: Whatever happened in the story, there was no getting around the realness of the city itself, pressing in with its weather and walls and visible age. Southern California, by contrast, is wide open and blue-sky bright, always ready for its close-up. "LOLA" embraces (which is not to say endorses) the local glamour we first saw Ulrich shot from below, his head framed by palm fronds even as, like many East Coast arrivals, it does not quite comprehend our lackadaisical civic spirit. For one shot, the show invented a tabloid, the Los Angeles Post, in order to display the sort of noisy, angry headline the Los Angeles press does not in practice supply.

Indeed, the very practice of ripping stories from the headlines and then altering the details can make the show seem not more authentic but less. It is as though we have stumbled into a parallel world where Disney makes "Dance School" not "High School" musicals, and the crooked schemes of the governors of Bell are transplanted to a city called East Pasadena, with a few murders attached.

While Winters' death was well-handled it was a shock, even if you knew it was coming, and you knew it was coming, so heavily had it been promoted the episode that contained it was actually one of the series' weakest, a noisy mechanism designed to get Molina's Ricardo Morales mad enough at boss Peter Coyote to quit the D.A.'s office and return to the police force, where he has squeezed his bulk into the hole Ulrich left behind. (The scenes in which Coyote has argued with his deputies have been overheated sometimes near the point of hilarity.)

This move means that Molina and Howard are now in every episode, and it has paid some benefits: teaming Molina with Corey Stoll's Tomas "TJ" Jaruszalski, recreates the popular old cop-young cop dynamic of classic "L&O" (Briscoe and Logan, Briscoe and Curtis, Briscoe and Green). Stoll's mustache has also disappeared in the revamp; it makes him seem quite another person, as if his role had been recast without recasting it. Molina is more relaxed and funnier in his new old job, and there is a growing warmth to his and Stoll's banter. (Winters was not a humorous character.) It's a small thing, and perhaps not enough to save the series, but flowers may bloom there.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,7383745.story
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