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Perhaps more importantly, if the pre-enslavement skitter race has a super bioweapon that can destroy all Espheni, why didn't they use it when the Espheni were trying to conquer their planet, thus preventing the Espheni from ever invading Earth in the first place?
My guess. They didn't have it back then, as they didn't expect what happened to them. It was developed aftwards.

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My guess. They didn't have it back then, as they didn't expect what happened to them. It was developed aftwards.
This would be the logical conclusion. They hadn't developed it yet.

But getting logical with this show only presents myriad other issues.

Why did they have Tom deliver the bioweapon?
Why didn't the Overlords find their ship in the ocean?
Why were the overlords so powerful at first and so lame the next?
What happened to all the turned children?
And why oh why would every Assfanny creature die when the queen croaks off?
and on and on and on.

And the ultimate question I still can't answer is WHY I still enjoyed this stupid show all the way through. I would guess it was the characters. I embraced the characters during the first few seasons and in the end wanted to be by their bedside when the show died. I DID IT FOR YOU BEN!!!!
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And why oh why would every Assfanny creature die when the queen croaks off?
Yep, lame deus ex machina to end the war and the series. Better would have been to pattern them off of ants. When an ant queen dies, absent any other queens to replace her, the colony eventually dies off from lack of purpose, replenishment and short life spans. They could have done something similar here but the war would have dragged on for awhile longer until they all expired.

And they needed to wrap it up quick!
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The scariest part of the whole thing was the queen's claim that Earth is the only habitable planet in the galaxy - what a revoltin' development that would be!
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So, with the new season of Prison Break on the horizon, how long till we get a comeback season of Falling Skies?
Prison Break? Did I hear that right? They are bringing it back?

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Prison Break? Did I hear that right? They are bringing it back?
How did you miss that news? Especially considering, you know, how it ended with an ending that really ended the show.

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The scariest part of the whole thing was the queen's claim that Earth is the only habitable planet in the galaxy - what a revoltin' development that would be!
And it's only barely habitable - and getting less so daily...

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The scariest part of the whole thing was the queen's claim that Earth is the only habitable planet in the galaxy - what a revoltin' development that would be!
NASA estimates there are 100 billion planets in the Milky Way galaxy. The Espheni must have worked their butts off to find our planet.
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NASA estimates there are 100 billion planets in the Milky Way galaxy. The Espheni must have worked their butts off to find our planet.
Plus we also have to ignore the fact we were told that the Espheni have invaded many worlds full of life before reaching Earth. They absorbed the skitter race and took over the Volm homeworld too.

Some people might also say that given the Espheni and Volm can live in Earth's environment without problem, then it stands to reason that their respective homeworlds must have similar environments to Earth and also be suitably habitable so the Espheni could have settled there.

But those people would be crazy.


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Plus we also have to ignore the fact we were told that the Espheni have invaded many worlds full of life before reaching Earth. They absorbed the skitter race and took over the Volm homeworld too.

Some people might also say that given the Espheni and Volm can live in Earth's environment without problem, then it stands to reason that their respective homeworlds must have similar environments to Earth and also be suitably habitable so the Espheni could have settled there.

But those people would be crazy.
The obvious answer is that their homeworlds and previously conquered planets are not in this galaxy...

The queen goes on to say that this makes Earth of unimaginable strategic importance - though why a galaxy with only one habitable planet would be of any importance whatsoever escapes me...
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NASA estimates there are 100 billion planets in the Milky Way galaxy. The Espheni must have worked their butts off to find our planet.
Planets? I've heard that figure for stars but I can't see how they could estimate planets based on the few hundred discovered so far...

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Planets? I've heard that figure for stars but I can't see how they could estimate planets based on the few hundred discovered so far...
You'll have to take that up with NASA. I was just trying disprove the Espheni claim, not win a Nobel Prize.
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NASA estimates there are 100 billion planets in the Milky Way galaxy. The Espheni must have worked their butts off to find our planet.
Why do you think they were in such a bad mood? They stopped at the other 99,999,999,999 planets first.
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They should have just asked the Omec for directions. They found Earth easily enough.
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Why do you think they were in such a bad mood? They stopped at the other 99,999,999,999 planets first.
As the old saying goes: "It's always in the last place you look." A stupid saying as pointed out by, I believe, George Carlin. Obviously one always stops looking when found. There's no sense in continuing the hunt.
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The Espheni must have worked their butts off to find our planet.
They must have picked up that same damned 1936 Berlin Olympics telecast that every other alien uses to find Earth
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They must have picked up that same damned 1936 Berlin Olympics telecast that every other alien uses to find Earth
That damn Hitler. Still causing problems.
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The obvious answer is that their homeworlds and previously conquered planets are not in this galaxy...

The queen goes on to say that this makes Earth of unimaginable strategic importance - though why a galaxy with only one habitable planet would be of any importance whatsoever escapes me...
The intergalactic highway of course.
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I watched every episode, it seemed just entertaining enough to get me back. The plot contrivances were maddening at times, but the action always drew me back in. I have to say, I was quite let down by the final episode. Seems like it was phoned in.

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The intergalactic highway of course.
There were probably more usable planets, but those darn Vogons blew them up in creating the darn thing.
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The obvious answer is that their homeworlds and previously conquered planets are not in this galaxy...

The queen goes on to say that this makes Earth of unimaginable strategic importance - though why a galaxy with only one habitable planet would be of any importance whatsoever escapes me...
Must be diamonds!! They want to mine diamonds on every other planet around earth.
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I'm gonna echo jack15's sentiments. The show was good enough to overlook the silliness, and I'm a sucker for this genre. The finale felt a little more fizzle than bang, but it's done and I'm not unhappy. The time it took to get through the tunnel was way too long. I was growing angsty with how slow they were taking it. Pope showing back up AGAIN felt contrived. I do feel a little cheated though. To achieve the final victory with no apparent sacrifice makes it feel a little less. I think perhaps a better angle would have been for Mason to realize he had to unleash the capsule on himself as the Queen was sucking his blood and it would have killed them both (instead of them altering it to be safe for humans). That might have added a little more weight to it "having" to be him as the one to do it. His wife coming back was a cheat too. Them dying together would have been tragically poetic.

If I was in the writer's room, that's what I would have pitched.

But it was a good show. It was entertaining. And I was glad to have watched it.
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Planets? I've heard that figure for stars but I can't see how they could estimate planets based on the few hundred discovered so far...
Supposedly 200-400 Billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy (ours). At least 100 Billion planets, although likely many more since the estimate keeps climbing.

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Gotta' be waaay more than that. Nearly every star has some kind of planetary system left over from all the dust & debris remaining from star formation. Zillions of particles of stuff zipping around in overlapping orbits just keep colliding with each other until the next thing you know you gots yourself a few planets. And sometimes they have planets - or moons that are big enough to be one for all intents and purposes.

Shoot, a few trillion planets, at least, sounds like a better estimate for the Milky Way. Things will start to get really hairy when the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies collide with each other in a few billion years.

Latest estimates are there are over 3 trillion trees on earth. Seems reasonable to assume at least that many planets in the whole galaxy.

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Soldier who bravely dies in the tunnel collapse who wanted to go out like a hero, gets a brief pause... Anne gets hurt and EVERYONE even not her family is crying like they lost the war... oh, but she gets brought back by off-camera alien magic! Pope might have been right after all... it's good to be part of the Mason family so you don't have to die and stay dead!
This was a big problem for me, too. The show often had its gritty, darker moments. I liked the tunnel run.

But then

1) Ann gets injured, and the whole strike force forgets their objective and stops moving to worry over her. What kind of military operation is that? And it was out of character for the type of leader Captain Weaver has been.

2) More main characters should have died during that last push on DC. Surely, they have seen great war movies. Everybody on a team does not live in that kind offensive. It would have been more meaningful if lives had been sacrificed.

So it had too much of the sentimental, leave you with a good feeling mush that series finales often do and muck it up. Pope showing up? Not about what was best for the narrative. Just another of those final curtain call opportunities that tv finales try to do for major characters so viewers can see their favorites one last time.

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More main characters should have died during that last push on DC. Surely, they have seen great war movies. Everybody on a team does not live in that kind offensive.
I doubt any great war movies use magic bullets to kill every enemy soldier instantly, either. Even if characters had died, the finale would have been far from a great resolution to the war.
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