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Does anyone know of a way to watch these episodes some other way a lot sooner?
They are released on disc right after it airs on TV in the UK.
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Its still not listed on the amazon.uk site except for the sponsored links at the bottom of the page where it appears that season 5 will come out on DVD in January.

Does anyone know of a way to watch these episodes some other way a lot sooner?

VPN set to the UK and ITVplayer, you can watch them a few hours after they air in UK. The ITVplayer is only SD widescreen though
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Reminder: Season 5 starts Sunday night.
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I watched S-5 on BD last month. I don't think anyone will be disappointed.
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I've been watching the first 3 episodes on the new season and wonder what they did with the picture quality. Looks like the gamma was cranked up.

I'm getting this through OTA from the local PBS affiliate.

Anyone else seeing this?

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^^^Recall griping earlier above about black levels for mostly interior shots (earlier seasons). Found I could reset my gamma level to 2.0 from 2.2 on my plasma monitor and that makes black clothing a little less murky. Recall going to the same 2.0 gamma setting on this season's first episode at least. Since then I've given up and accepted that they're not going to light interiors more for their Arri cameras. -- John
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I've also noticed the darker scenes to be overly dark but like John I've just accepted it and figure if the people in charge of the filming want the darks to be black, well I'll just watch them black and forget about any detail in the very dark areas
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When we were getting caught up on all the earlier episode streaming them from Amazon Prime, there wasn't this gamma/brightness error.

Its more than using a high lighting ratio for dramatic effect.

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When we were getting caught up on all the earlier episode streaming them from Amazon Prime, there wasn't this gamma/brightness error.

Its more than using a high lighting ratio for dramatic effect.

Is it the black crush (no detail in dark areas) that we complained about before, or did they change something this season?

I didn't watch the PBS broadcast this time around because I've already seen this season. The quality of original UK broadcast was better than what we normally get on PBS here. I still think it's getting screwed up somehow by PBS.
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I've also noticed the darker scenes to be overly dark but like John I've just accepted it and figure if the people in charge of the filming want the darks to be black, well I'll just watch them black and forget about any detail in the very dark areas
There is a general gloomy feel about the images in this season. I'm also wondering if there's a new lighting director who doesn't like backlight on the actors (i haven't checked credits).
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I watched S-5 on BD, (UK release), and don't see any difference from previous seasons.
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Is it the black crush (no detail in dark areas) that we complained about before, or did they change something this season?
Doesn't seem as bad this season, but I've been watching it on my black-level-challenged PJ ... gamma ~1.95 ...
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I watched S-5 on BD, (UK release), and don't see any difference from previous seasons.
I have now watched the first three episodes of Series 5 on PBS and I too have failed to see any difference in either black levels or overall PQ from earlier years.
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I watched this weeks episode and wasn't even thinking about the black level, on that note I didn't think to myself that anything was wrong. After seeing this thread I rewatched parts and while things like peoples black jackets in the opening servants meal scene were quite dark, I don't think it's a IRE mismatch problem, I think it's just the way it was shot. Outdoor scenes were very bright and vivid, if it were a IRE mismatch the brights would also be lowered or even clipped, IMO they were not. I just think it's way the program is shot, very high contrast ratio. Some TVs, especially ones without high native contrast ratio don't like to display high contrast ratio material without either making things like black jackets look all black or things like a white shirt all white and no detail.
I normally watch DA on a high contrast ratio Sony LCD that has been calibrated and again things look pretty good, hooking up my mid to lower level Vizio blacks tended to look totally black and whites tended to lose some definition. I can only imagine what it would look like on my fathers Westinghouse HDTV that no matter how I adjusted things I was not able to properly calibrate it to display black blacks or white whites, IMO it has a very low contrast ratio which something like DA would probably not look good on.
My guess is DA would look very good on a properly calibrated plasma TV as plasmas tend to have a very high contrast ratio and ability to display blacks that are totally black. I tried a plasma years ago but due to heat and other factors it just didn't work in my window laden media room.
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My guess is DA would look very good on a properly calibrated plasma TV as plasmas tend to have a very high contrast ratio and ability to display blacks that are totally black. I tried a plasma years ago but due to heat and other factors it just didn't work in my window laden media room.
I watch DA on a calibrated plasma , a Samsung F8500, using a 3D LUTs processor which I have setup with gammas of 2.37, 2.2 and BT 1886. Those indoor scenes are screwed up. I have to up the gamma in the display a couple of notches which probably puts the gamma somewhere around 2.0 to get most the video range about where it should be but totally trashes the lower end of the range with severe banding. I didn't get any of this with the first 4 seasons that I streamed off of Amazon prime. Although shot to give the appearance of natural indoor lighting, they didn't look as dark and murky as what I'm getting off of the PBS OTA feed.....and that might be the problem if not everyone is seeing the same thing. If you've got Amazon Prime, make a comparison to what you're getting off of PBS. That might tell the story of what's going on.

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Interesting interview with Downton's author about the season 5 finale last night. -- John
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All sorts of good stuff in the season finale.
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All sorts of good stuff in the season finale.
Couldn't agree more! The finale proved to me once again that despite the show's soapiness and old age, it still has the power to move me.
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