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Now all that being said - it was a sad day when they cancelled John from Cincinnati

It was, because that day proved what an assine decision it was to cancel Deadwood.
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Took a look a the "head" scene again.
Did anyone see Syrio's head there??? I did not.
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I know it's cliched, but I would've liked to see a montage at the end showing the current fates of the major characters -- Danaerys rising from the ashes, Robb the anointed king, Snow leaving the wall, the Imp going to king!s landing with his woman. Makes no difference to the plot, but it would've given more a feeling of a conclusion of one chapter.
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I know it's cliched, but I would've liked to see a montage at the end showing the current fates of the major characters -- Danaerys rising from the ashes, Robb the anointed king, Snow leaving the wall, the Imp going to king!s landing with his woman. Makes no difference to the plot, but it would've given more a feeling of a conclusion of one chapter.

That will be the season 2 Pre show. It will come just not right now
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... Rome's first season cost nearly twice the amount of Game of Thrones ($110mil vs. $60mil). My guess is that if Rome had cost ~$60 mil a season, it would have had a longer run.

To be fair Rome's first year included the cost building of all those sets. Season 2 probably cost significantly less, as would have subsequent seasons.
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Rome also had shared expenses.
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To be fair Rome's first year included the cost building of all those sets. Season 2 probably cost significantly less, as would have subsequent seasons.

I believe the same goes for GoT, where building sets ect got factored into total cost.
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To be fair Rome's first year included the cost building of all those sets. Season 2 probably cost significantly less, as would have subsequent seasons.

Honestly, they overpaid for Rome. I don't remember it looking twice as expensive.

Rome was good, but I didn't think it was great. It wrapped up about the right time for me. I think GoT is quite a bit better. I haven't read the books, but if the rest of the series is as good as this first season, GoT will be one of the all time great HBO series for me.

The thing I fear is will HBO stick with this for 7 or however many seasons. Viewers just may get tired of it and it's too expensive to write off.
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Finally finished watching the first season. Very enjoyable and obviously a very densely plotted storyline. The books must be a fun read. While the final scene of Denaerys rising nude from the ashes with her dragon hatchlings was undoubtedly powerful (and kinda' hot!), it moved the story rather shockingly from the somewhat plausible into the realm of the supernatural. I'm okay with it 'cause I like that stuff, but it does seem to be kind of a reboot considering what came before.

So is the new season now going to incorporate magic and other fantastic laws-of-physics-defying storylines? Like I said, I'm okay with that, but it does seem like it's evolved into a different show now.
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Rome also had shared expenses.

GOT I believe also shares cost with BBC.
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...it moved the story rather shockingly from the somewhat plausible into the realm of the supernatural.

So, you must have zombies down there in NC.

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So, you must have zombies down there in NC.

And 3 eyed ravens that tell the future.
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Finally finished watching the first season. Very enjoyable and obviously a very densely plotted storyline. The books must be a fun read. While the final scene of Denaerys rising nude from the ashes with her dragon hatchlings was undoubtedly powerful (and kinda' hot!), it moved the story rather shockingly from the somewhat plausible into the realm of the supernatural. I'm okay with it 'cause I like that stuff, but it does seem to be kind of a reboot considering what came before.

So is the new season now going to incorporate magic and other fantastic laws-of-physics-defying storylines? Like I said, I'm okay with that, but it does seem like it's evolved into a different show now.

Don't worry about any magic. This is not Harry Potter, you won't see people flying around on broomsticks and hurling fireballs or elves surfing down staircases.
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So, you must have zombies down there in NC.

larry

Oh, you mean the guys currently running the state legislature?

I know it doesn't make a lot of sense, but I can accept zombies and dragons more than fireproof, indestructible girls. Especially with such a fair complexion (maybe she was wearing SPF 1,000). 'Heroes' cured me of that.
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Oh, you mean the guys currently running the state legislature?

I know it doesn't make a lot of sense, but I can accept zombies more than fireproof, indestructible girls. 'Heroes' cured me of that.

She's fireproof not indestructable. The dragons were talked about all season (hoe they were killed off many years before the events we are seeing now) Since this is a "Fantasy" series IMO what we've seen is fairly tame.
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She's fireproof not indestructable. The dragons were talked about all season (hoe they were killed off many years before the events we are seeing now) Since this is a "Fantasy" series IMO what we've seen is fairly tame.

Not to mention the fact we've seen huge dragon skulls lying around. Unlike other fantasy shows this isn't Dungeons and Dragons with a mage on every corner but it's still fantasy. Undead, witches, dragons ... they've all been running in the background throughout the season. I find most of that less fantastical than the fact The Wall was built by men. That's a lot of ice packing!

If you read the viewer's guide at HBO there's plenty of magical elements in the history of this medieval world and over time most of it has been destroyed. The show is apparently at the point in history where the mystical is having a resurgence.


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I find most of that less fantastical than the fact The Wall was built by men. That's a lot of ice packing!

If you read the viewer's guide at HBO there's plenty of magical elements in the history of this medieval world and over time most of it has been destroyed. The show is apparently at the point in history where the mystical is having a resurgence.

The Wall was built by men, but it was built a long, long time ago during the time when magic was more prevalent. I think it is a safe assumption that there was some magic used during its construction.
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Another thing I found fascinating is these poor people have been stuck in their world's equivalent of the Bronze Age for thousands and thousands of years. Not a terribly creative or inventive lot, are they?

Yet they somehow managed to build that 700 foot high ice wall without tower cranes or power tools of any kind. Help from ancient astronauts, perhaps? Maybe they stopped there on their way to ancient Egypt in our world.
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Another thing I found fascinating is these poor people have been stuck in their world's equivalent of the Bronze Age for thousands and thousands of years. Not a terribly creative or inventive lot, are they?

Yet they somehow managed to build that 700 foot high ice wall without tower cranes or power tools of any kind. Help from ancient astronauts, perhaps? Maybe they stopped there on their way to ancient Egypt in our world.

During one of the episodes they said that the wall was built thousands of years ago with the help of magic. So obviously magic exists in this world, we just don't seem to see much of it (The Khalessi's husband being an example that the witch cast her spell).

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During one of the episodes they said that the wall was built thousands of years ago with the help of magic.

Must have missed that part. So it was Ancient Astronauts!

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So obviously magic exists in this world, we just don't seem to see much of it (The Khalessi's husband being an example that the witch cast her spell).

I didn't think of that as magic so much as the "witch's" life-long knowledge of local pharmacology, and how it could be misused.
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Another thing I found fascinating is these poor people have been stuck in their world's equivalent of the Bronze Age for thousands and thousands of years. Not a terribly creative or inventive lot, are they?

Yeah, but the same can be said about the human race. If empire builders hadn't forced their will on other civilizations, races like the Aztecs and Native Americans would probably have been quite happy doing what they do. Without exploration and conquerors, basic advancements like gunpowder and sewers for example might have stayed with the Chinese and Romans.

Explorer seems to be a non-existent profession in the Thrones world. Having a steady stream of crazy leaders who want to pull your tongue out for fun probably keeps radical innovation in check too.

According to the viewer's guide the first inhabitants were nice magical hippies until (as usual) some barbarians arrived and started a war. Maybe on the other side of the Not-Earth there's an entire civilization of steampunk magic hippies who just don't want to share with the duplicitous Thrones characters and like to keep their tech to themselves.

If the Dothraki stop being scared of boats and travel to Westeros they might knock the culture level back to the stone age!


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Natalie Dormer (The Tudors') will be playing Margaery Tyrell in season two!!

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Does anybody know if the "spoilers" thread only contains spoilers for "Game of Thrones" or does it also contain spoilers for all the other books ("Clash of Kings" etc) as well?

I don't want to venture over there to ask the question in case it's the latter.
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Does anybody know if the "spoilers" thread only contains spoilers for "Game of Thrones" or does it also contain spoilers for all the other books ("Clash of Kings" etc) as well?

I don't want to venture over there to ask the question in case it's the latter.

All spoilers are fair game in that thread.
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Does anybody know if the "spoilers" thread only contains spoilers for "Game of Thrones" or does it also contain spoilers for all the other books ("Clash of Kings" etc) as well?

I don't want to venture over there to ask the question in case it's the latter.

I think people will freely reference later books.

You can ask your question and request non spoilery answers only. E.g., this happened on the show, did the same happened in GoT?
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So glad hbo had a free preview week on cox. Finally got to watch this series, got two episodes left, and it's amazing. I love when a tv show can stir my emotions, it's been a long time since hbo has been able to do this for me. I think sopranos was the last one.

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Money and HBO has a history of canceling the "good ones" We can hope.for a third season, but don't bet on it yet.

The ratings are good and signal an upward trend--not True Blood high (yet), but very good. Treme's ratings are terrible by comparison. If anyone's on the chopping block, it's Treme--which is unfortunate but wouldn't surprise me.
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