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All I can say is brilliant, brilliant, fracking brilliant! I just sat there for the 75 minutes in total awe of what the GOT team created last night. I got to watch it several hours hours earlier the the west coast time on the Roku HBO GO streaming app. On the technical side (and this may have been previously noted here) the image from HBO GO was brighter and more vibrant than my regular Xfinity HBO channel's.
There were so may great scenes it's hard to list them. Cersei who blowed up the Sept real good was so vicious but also so elegant at the same time. With her short hair she looked like a true warrior queen. Lena Headey can say more in silence than many actors can with a full page of dialogue. The furtive glances were so revealing. Jaime's "oh crap" look when his sister was crowned was telling. The glance between Sansa and Baelish after the young noblewoman shamed the other lords in to declaring for Jon Snow was a great tease for next season. You got the feeling that Sansa got sucker punched by that one. She is the true Stark after all. Olenna insulting and putting down the Sand Snake daughters was very satisfying and Diana Rigg played it perfectly. Dany giving up her lover and making Tyrion the Queen's Hand was well done. Arya settling scores was, well, unsettling. That girl has some issues. Finally, the closing scene showing Dany and her armada sailing west with her dragons flying overhead was spectacular. It was enhanced by some of the best music that GOT has ever used. So after all of this we have to wait for another year to pass before we see GOT again. HBO GO had a couple of nice special features. One focused on last night's episode and was fairly brief. The other on was a 17 minute "making of" type feature on the last two episodes. It was very good. I haven't seen them show on On Demand yet but hopefully they will.
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One of the best season finales ever.. Reading all the articles, looks like everyone agrees with the finale being outstanding.. Lots of funny posts comparing Arya to Tom Cruise masks in the M.I. films. Thats what you call a Kings Landing post was original.
It was like a chess match last night: Queen takes bishop, knight, pawn and anyone else that gets in her way..King takes care of himself..

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All I can say is brilliant, brilliant, fracking brilliant! I just sat there for the 75 minutes in total awe of what the GOT team created last night. I got to watch it several hours hours earlier the the west coast time on the Roku HBO GO streaming app. On the technical side (and this may have been previously noted here) the image from HBO GO was brighter and more vibrant than my regular Xfinity HBO channel's.
There were so may great scenes it's hard to list them. Cersei who blowed up the Sept real good was so vicious but also so elegant at the same time. With her short hair she looked like a true warrior queen. Lena Headey can say more in silence than many actors can with a full page of dialogue. The furtive glances were so revealing. Jaime's "oh crap" look when his sister was crowned was telling. The glance between Sansa and Baelish after the young noblewoman shamed the other lords in to declaring for Jon Snow was a great tease for next season. You got the feeling that Sansa got sucker punched by that one. She is the true Stark after all. Olenna insulting and putting down the Sand Snake daughters was very satisfying and Diana Rigg played it perfectly. Dany giving up her lover and making Tyrion the Queen's Hand was well done. Arya settling scores was, well, unsettling. That girl has some issues. Finally, the closing scene showing Dany and her armada sailing west with her dragons flying overhead was spectacular. It was enhanced by some of the best music that GOT has ever used. So after all of this we have to wait for another year to pass before we see GOT again. HBO GO had a couple of nice special features. One focused on last night's episode and was fairly brief. The other on was a 17 minute "making of" type feature on the last two episodes. It was very good. I haven't seen them show on On Demand yet but hopefully they will.
Yeah I streamed from the HBO Go app. on my iPad mini 2 using Airplay to my Apple TV.

I didn't see the picture being any weaker and I was getting AC-3 sound as I would have from Comcast. Really great not waiting until 9 PM.
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All I can say is brilliant, brilliant, fracking brilliant! I just sat there for the 75 minutes in total awe of what the GOT team created last night. I got to watch it several hours hours earlier the the west coast time on the Roku HBO GO streaming app.
I am curious as to what time you viewed it on the Roku streaming? I recorded it at 6pm west coast time which is the east coast broadcast time correct?
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I loved the incredible tension they wove so well into the buildup towards the wildfire explosion that destroyed the sept. Fantastic! As soon as it became obvious the boy was leading him deep underground I realized what was coming and literally slid forward to the edge of my seat. When Margaery's spidey senses began to tingle and she realized something was up, I became torn. I wanted Cersei to fail because I hate her, but I realized I love to hate her and I wanted her to succeed so she'd stay right in the game as a major player. Wiping out all almost all of her enemies in one blow was stunning. I wasn't expecting the king to throw himself out the window. Cersei seemed a bit cold about his passing, but I think she might have felt that she'd already lost him when it became obvious he was completely under the high sparrow's control. I felt a bit of a chill as she walked up to the iron throne to take her place there. The mad queen has risen!

I enjoyed Arya's treatment of Walder Frey, but the vindictive side of me wishes his death would have been just a bit more torturous and slow. She should have drawn it out a bit longer and let him know while he died that no male bearing the name Frey would ever be allowed to live again. That she'd wipe out his legacy completely. That was the thing that mattered to him the most.

It's nice to see Daenerys finally in the water and on the move.

This has been the best season of the show by a wide margin. I can't wait to see what next season has in store.
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I enjoyed Arya's treatment of Walder Frey, but the vindictive side of me wishes his death would have been just a bit more torturous and slow. She should have drawn it out a bit longer and let him know while he died that no male bearing the name Frey would ever be allowed to live again. That she'd wipe out his legacy completely. That was the thing that mattered to him the most.
I thought she pretty much did that by telling him his sons were made into pie.
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Yeah I streamed from the HBO Go app. on my iPad mini 2 using Airplay to my Apple TV.

I didn't see the picture being any weaker and I was getting AC-3 sound as I would have from Comcast. Really great not waiting until 9 PM.
My Roku 4 runs via HDMI pass through from my Denon AVR so that when I turn the receiver on I get 5.1 Dolby Digital + from HBO Go that the Denon upmixes to 5.1.2 (same with Netflix and some of the other steaming apps) The audio was excellent, especially on the armada scene. The music with the choir really came blasting through.
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Margaery, was doomed along with everyone else. The placement and amount of the wildfire were the factor as we all knew from the first explosion witnessed some time ago in battle. If it could lift that bell and carry it, she couldn't have run fast enough or far enough unfortunately. Her screaming for everyone to leave just made the tension mount up even more. I have to watch this again in surround and on my larger screen.
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I am curious as to what time you viewed it on the Roku streaming? I recorded it at 6pm west coast time which is the east coast broadcast time correct?
I watched it at around 7:20 PM. We don't get the Eastern HBO feed (or any of the premiums) in HD. Only the SD channel is available (one of Comcast's bad decisions based on its claim that On Demand is better..NOT). I'm not sure about what time GOT was available on HBO Go last night. It could have been simultaneous with the eastern feed or might have been just after that was concluded. The premium channel apps are all pretty good. On Saturday, the Showtime app had the season openers of Ray Donovan and Roadies (great show) so I got to see them early. The Showtime app is supposed to give us access to the eastern feed as it goes on but I have yet to see that one work.
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I have to watch this again in surround and on my larger screen.
Absolutely! The audio in either DD5.1 or DD+5.1 is stunning.
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Absolutely! The audio in either DD5.1 or DD+5.1 is stunning.
Yes, it certainly is. I had my system cranked and my viewing room rocked, literally!
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I'm sad to see Margaery go

What I'm somewhat confused about is why were there only loyalists from the Faith guarding the Sept of Baelor? Where were the royal guard? For someone as intelligent as Margaery, who was also formulating her own plans, it seems like quite an oversight not to have her own security there, in which case they could over-power the Faith at one of the many, many exits (seriously, they're just robe-wearing youth brandishing crude weapons). This was a partnership with the crown, not a takeover from the High Septum, and the Sept is frequently used royalty; it's not like it's the military stronghold of the Faith.
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I'm sad to see Margaery go

What I'm somewhat confused about is why were there only loyalists from the Faith guarding the Sept of Baelor? Where were the royal guard? For someone as intelligent as Margaery, who was also formulating her own plans, it seems like quite an oversight not to have her own security there, in which case they could over-power the Faith at one of the many, many exits (seriously, they're just robe-wearing youth brandishing crude weapons). This was a partnership with the crown, not a takeover from the High Septum, and the Sept is frequently used royalty; it's not like it's the military stronghold of the Faith.
Who would have ordered the Royal Guard to be there? Not Tommen. He was under the HS's thumb, effectively making it a takeover by the HS. But, of course, all the debate about the HS's motives are now moot.
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My Roku 4 runs via HDMI pass through from my Denon AVR so that when I turn the receiver on I get 5.1 Dolby Digital + from HBO Go that the Denon upmixes to 5.1.2 (same with Netflix and some of the other steaming apps) The audio was excellent, especially on the armada scene. The music with the choir really came blasting through.
I can run HBO Go directly on my Apple TV too but navigation with the remote sucks.

So I use iPad to log in (Can't wait for single sign on) to HBO Go and start playing the show, speed past the promos if necessary and send it to the big screen via Apple TV.
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What I'm somewhat confused about is why were there only loyalists from the Faith guarding the Sept of Baelor? Where were the royal guard? For someone as intelligent as Margaery, who was also formulating her own plans, it seems like quite an oversight not to have her own security there, in which case they could over-power the Faith at one of the many, many exits (seriously, they're just robe-wearing youth brandishing crude weapons). This was a partnership with the crown, not a takeover from the High Septum, and the Sept is frequently used royalty; it's not like it's the military stronghold of the Faith.


The Kingsguard protect the King, they don't often travel with the Queen......partnership is a VERY loose term, this was a takeover by the HS, he just manipulated Tommen through Cersi and his one on ones. The Sept has been run by the HS and Faith Militant for some time now.


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I can run HBO Go directly on my Apple TV too but navigation with the remote sucks.

So I use iPad to log in (Can't wait for single sign on) to HBO Go and start playing the show, speed past the promos if necessary and send it to the big screen via Apple TV.
The Roku's remote is very simple and very effective. Navigation of the video apps is pretty easy. I love the Roku 4 and wouldn't hesitate to recommend it.
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I thought she pretty much did that by telling him his sons were made into pie.
Two of them, yes, but I seem to recall from way back in one of the early seasons that he had eighteen or more. I might have misheard something and it's been a few years.

Edit: From the wiki he had "Numerous unidentified sons, daughters, grandchildren and great-grandchildren, numbering at least over eight score altogether." I guess they're just a bunch of "bastards" running around. I guess Arya would be a bit too busy to do anything else if she made it her mission to wipe out everyone who might have claims to the house.
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The question of Jon Snow's lineage was partially answered. We know he's half Stark but the other half?
Spoiler!
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The question of Jon Snow's lineage was partially answered. We know he's half Stark but the other half?
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The other half is Targaryn (no need for spoilers). This was confirmation of the R+L=J.


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I think they will keep Jon as king in the north and Dany queen in the south.

Or they start an incestuous relationship to make more targaryens. I'm sure they will get some magic womb fixer for Dany.
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The other half is Targaryn (no need for spoilers). This was confirmation of the R+L=J.


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I believe Jon is Rhaegar's son, but for some reason the show did not really confirm that part of his lineage. Lyanna's whisper to Ned was inaudible on purpose. Hmmm...
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Taking a clue from you guys I reconnected my Apple TV fired up HBO Go and the murkiness in the dark scenes disappeared Comcast struggles with those scenes
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I believe Jon is Rhaegar's son, but for some reason the show did not really confirm that part of his lineage. Lyanna's whisper to Ned was inaudible on purpose. Hmmm...


They talked about it before hand (Rhaegar kidnapping Lyanna) in an earlier episode. This is where she was raped supposedly and become pregnant with his son (Jon). You would have to piece the information together and remember previous episodes (from previous seasons as well).


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They talked about it before hand (Rhaegar kidnapping Lyanna) in an earlier episode. This is where she was raped supposedly and become pregnant with his son (Jon). You would have to piece the information together and remember previous episodes (from previous seasons as well).


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But as we all "know", and Littlefinger pointed out previously, it wasn't rape.
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I thought maybe they were secretly married and ran off...the other version (kidnapping) was to spare the king's feelings. If he knew, Jon would probably be dead--the same reason the other children were sent over seas, and why Ned told Cersei to take her children and run.
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And yet, none of the Kingsguard were within sight when Tommen was being kept from attending the trial by Gregor Clegane

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Partnership is a VERY loose term, this was a takeover by the HS, he just manipulated Tommen through Cersi and his one on ones. The Sept has been run by the HS and Faith Militant for some time now.
I guess I just don't like how Cersei's ruthlessness has paid off in such a rewarding way: half of Kings Landing's social elite must've perished in that explosion; one would imagine there would be some sort of repercussion - hopefully, that's where Olenna Tyrell comes in.

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But as we all "know", and Littlefinger pointed out previously, it wasn't rape.
So regardless if it was rape or not Jon would still be a bastard unless Rhaegar and Lyanna were secretly married; would it not? Leaving Dany the legitimate inheritor to the throne.
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Didn't Jon have white hair as a baby? That reminds me...I swore they were going to try to burn Jon's body, only to find that it wouldn't burn, and his hair was going to turn white--and then the Red Woman was going to bring him back...that's where I thought they were heading at the end of last season.
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But as we all "know", and Littlefinger pointed out previously, it wasn't rape.

Yes that is why I said "supposedly"

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I thought maybe they were secretly married and ran off...the other version (kidnapping) was to spare the king's feelings. If he knew, Jon would probably be dead--the same reason the other children were sent over seas, and why Ned told Cersei to take her children and run.

That is a theory/rumor that they were secretly married and the kidnapping was them running off together. Jon would be in the same place as Danny and her brother when Robert was doing away with the line of succession.

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I guess I just don't like how Cersei's ruthlessness has paid off in such a rewarding way: half of Kings Landing's social elite must've perished in that explosion; one would imagine there would be some sort of repercussion - hopefully, that's where Olenna Tyrell comes in.


Gregor is part of the Kingsguard (thus his white cloak and gold/white armor).

I apologize I meant Margaery not Cersi in that statement. Well ruthlessness has paid off for many (Red Wedding (Tommen be comes king officially/Cersi retains "control")). This show has shown numerous times that usually the most ruthless are rewarded. The heroes, often are punished. This may change in the future, but really I think the "hero" will be someone who treads the line of being ruthless and hero like.


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Didn't Jon have white hair as a baby? That reminds me...I swore they were going to try to burn Jon's body, only to find that it wouldn't burn, and his hair was going to turn white--and then the Red Woman was going to bring him back...that's where I thought they were heading at the end of last season.


I think you would have to ask that in the other thread, not sure if anything like that has been said before on the show.


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