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i'm wondering what type of work will mike be doing when he gets out of prison ? he can't go back into law after he plead guilty to fraud.
A couple of seasons back, if you remember, he quit the law firm and went to work as an Investor. IF he could get some backing (and Harvey might help with that) he could do that kind of work again. He's still as capable as he ever was, he just wouldn't be able to practice law. He could also work as a Consultant for people... while not being an actual lawyer, he could help people to figure out a strategy and then represent themselves or something.

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Could Mike even get a law license even if it got a law degree and passed the bar exam?
If they go realistic, my guess would be no. I don't know what kinds of things a lawyer might be able to do, be banned, and then get reinstated... but it seems like if you were guilty of fraud at pretending to be a lawyer and taking bar exams for other people like Mike admitted to doing... that he'd be hard pressed to find a bar association in any state that would allow him to practice again.
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Well, no one said he can't be a consultant. Mike never really spent that much time in the courtroom, his strength was digging through documents and legal briefs to find clues and outs. I can see him doing this in whatever form PSL ends up in.
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Maybe they'll find some dirty laundry on the prosecutor (wow, she was underhanded!) and the conviction/plea bargain will get tossed. Then it's back to normal. Well, as normal as can be after everyone jumped ship. Don't let Soloff come back and please throw that whiney Louis out the window.
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Maybe they'll find some dirty laundry on the prosecutor (wow, she was underhanded!) and the conviction/plea bargain will get tossed. Then it's back to normal. Well, as normal as can be after everyone jumped ship. Don't let Soloff come back and please throw that whiney Louis out the window.
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Could Mike even get a law license even if it got a law degree and passed the bar exam?
I'm not a lawyer but it's my understanding that, in addition to passing the bar exam, you have to pass a "Moral Character and Fitness" examination before admittance into the state bar. I believe Rachel's father mentioned something about this when urging her not to marry Mike, because the Moral Character board would judge her poorly for marrying a felon who defrauded them.

So no, if this were reality, there'd be basically no chance Mike could become an actual lawyer after this. He might be able to become a paralegal, however.

With that said, this show isn't reality, and I'm sure Harvey will find some ridiculous way to void the conviction and get Mike reinstated.
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My wife and I truly enjoyed Suits over the first three seasons. With seasons 4 and 5, not so much.

What drew us to the program in the first place were the story lines revealing the complexities of law with good writing and as portrayed by an excellent ensemble cast .

What we liked were the good guys Mike, Harvey, the Donna, Grandma Edith, and the always evil Trevor and Daniel Hardman. Guest characters like Sheila Sazs, Travis Tanner, Katrina Bennett, Charles Forstman, added spice and compelling side stories.

What started to push us over the edge was some of the writing in the recent episodes. I don't have to be a lawyer to know that whether your law firm is on the 50th floor of a Manhattan skyscraper or in a strip mall in Scranton, Pennsylvania, no lawyers would indulge in profane laced shouting matches and personal attacks on each other in the hallways and offices of the law firm in full view of clients, office staff, and other attorneys.

Worse yet, is the revolving door behavior of all the characters, particularly Jessica, Louis Litt, Jeff Malone, Jack Soloff and Robert Zane, just to name a few. Friends one minute and mortal enemies the next. Lately we see Mike/Rachel, Jessica/Louis, Harvey/Donna, Louis/Shelia, Trevor/Mike flip flopping like out of control schizophrenics. Jessica's interaction with Jack Soloff resembles Charlie Brown and Lucy with the football.

Is it reasonable to assume that the law professors at both Harvard and Columbia are degenerate dirtbags? Is it reasonable for named partners to turn on each other at the drop of a hat? Is it reasonable to believe the adversarial characters like Cameron Dennis and Anita Gibbs appear like Ninjas in the night in the lawyer's homes, offices, park benches, and conference rooms bypassing security guards and receptionists as if they were teleported by a Star Trek transporter?

We will be back for the 6th season but if the writing continues as it has recently, we will probably opt out and move on to other content. Not to pile on, but if you want to see credible portrayal by lawyers, tune in the riveting episodes of AMC's Better Call Saul. Jimmy and Chuck McGill with Kim Wexler and Howard Hamlin are among the best you will see on TV.
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Keep in mind you're nitpicking on the behavior of fictional lawyers on a show where they have a kid play-acting at being a lawyer illegally all this time... so, IF the people running the firm are willing to do that, the rest of the behavior isn't really a stretch, is it?
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Yeah, good point. Also, expecting Harvard and Columbia professors to be dirtbags is not that great of a leap.. After all, they teach the incredibly rich and self-entitled children of dirtbag "businessmen".
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Anyone watch the premiere last night? I wasn't very impressed. I couldn't believe they actually sent him to prison in the finale.
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Anyone watch the premiere last night? I wasn't very impressed. I couldn't believe they actually sent him to prison in the finale.
I watched. I would have waited for the verdict. For such a smart guy they made kind of dumb

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That was a good setup of Mike, did not see that coming. It will be interesting to see how things develop. Read an article from the producers said they are planning a 7th season, said it's almost guaranteed.
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I was just glad to see the season start again. And then there's Donna . . .
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Anyone watch the premiere last night? I wasn't very impressed. I couldn't believe they actually sent him to prison in the finale.
I thought the episode was pretty slow and drawn out. Too much sitting around and moaning. The only interesting part was Mike's cellmate putting the screws to him.
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I actually liked it... and it looks like they are going to actually keep Mike in jail for a while. Seems like an uphill battle to save the firm, though.
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I actually liked it... and it looks like they are going to actually keep Mike in jail for a while. Seems like an uphill battle to save the firm, though.
Yeah, it does look that way. I'm not sure how they can realistically get back to the essence of the show—Harvey and Mike practicing law together. Hopefully, things pickup; the show was kind of slow for a season premiere. I guess the jail aspect could be interesting. I used to watch House, and he did a brief stint in the slammer, but it wasn't a whole season.
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I was just glad to see the season start again. And then there's Donna . . .
There is that
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Suits renewed for season 7...

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Not really digging this season.

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Need to get into more legal maneuvering. The prison stuff is not cutting it with me.
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But there's still Donna.

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They are doing legal maneuvering... legal maneuvering to keep their firm going, legal maneuvering with the new investor guys, and legal maneuvering trying to help Mike. I suspect the endgame for this at some point will involve Mike getting out and since he can't be a lawyer, he can become an investor and work for the company leasing office space and, thus, still work sort-of with all the same people
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I find the guy playing the bad dude in the jail a bit laughable. I do like him as an actor. But, He don't scare me. He needs to find his war face and work on it. I still see him in his role on Nurse Jackie. Little pill man in the pharmacy, playing tough. As has been already mentioned, the whole prison theme is a bit dull and I find myself eyeing the FF button when there.
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My biggest complaint is Patrick J. Adams who plays Mike. When voices are raised, which is often, he doesn't have the chops to pull it off. He's got the decibel level but it's not convincing. Harvey nails it.
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Personally, I was hoping for the office re-design. That set is so sterile. So, if that is what I come here to discuss, you can imagine my discussion of the rest of what is going on there. Donna still dominates the screen, but I want more. This whole prison thing is a big bore.

Lets use the cast in a new show entitled, "Amazon Women Rule the World". Donna and Jessica run two competing cave-dwelling groups. They fight, they make love, lots of strategically-placed fur garments ...

It's got HIT written all over it!
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I find the guy playing the bad dude in the jail a bit laughable. I do like him as an actor. But, He don't scare me. He needs to find his war face and work on it. I still see him in his role on Nurse Jackie. Little pill man in the pharmacy, playing tough. As has been already mentioned, the whole prison theme is a bit dull and I find myself eyeing the FF button when there.
The prison bad guy who hates Harvey is played by Paul Shulze. I like Shulze and thought he was terrific both as the the pharmacist in Nurse Jackie and as Father Phil in The Sopranos. That said, Shulze is woefully miscast as a vengeful heavy in Suits.
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Donna is overrated!
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But there's still Donna.
Couldn't agree more! Donna is an elegant beauty but has reached a "certain age." Perhaps some of the younger cohort don't appreciate her as much as those of us who are also of "a certain age" do.
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