Originally Posted by Leftcoastdave
My wife and I truly enjoyed Suits over the first three seasons. With seasons 4 and 5, not so much.
What drew us to the program in the first place were the story lines revealing the complexities of law with good writing and as portrayed by an excellent ensemble cast .
What we liked were the good guys Mike, Harvey, the Donna, Grandma Edith, and the always evil Trevor and Daniel Hardman. Guest characters like Sheila Sazs, Travis Tanner, Katrina Bennett, Charles Forstman, added spice and compelling side stories.
What started to push us over the edge was some of the writing in the recent episodes. I don't have to be a lawyer to know that whether your law firm is on the 50th floor of a Manhattan skyscraper or in a strip mall in Scranton, Pennsylvania, no lawyers would indulge in profane laced shouting matches and personal attacks on each other in the hallways and offices of the law firm in full view of clients, office staff, and other attorneys.
Worse yet, is the revolving door behavior of all the characters, particularly Jessica, Louis Litt, Jeff Malone, Jack Soloff and Robert Zane, just to name a few. Friends one minute and mortal enemies the next. Lately we see Mike/Rachel, Jessica/Louis, Harvey/Donna, Louis/Shelia, Trevor/Mike flip flopping like out of control schizophrenics. Jessica's interaction with Jack Soloff resembles Charlie Brown and Lucy with the football.
Is it reasonable to assume that the law professors at both Harvard and Columbia are degenerate dirtbags? Is it reasonable for named partners to turn on each other at the drop of a hat? Is it reasonable to believe the adversarial characters like Cameron Dennis and Anita Gibbs appear like Ninjas in the night in the lawyer's homes, offices, park benches, and conference rooms bypassing security guards and receptionists as if they were teleported by a Star Trek transporter?
We will be back for the 6th season but if the writing continues as it has recently, we will probably opt out and move on to other content. Not to pile on, but if you want to see credible portrayal by lawyers, tune in the riveting episodes of AMC's Better Call Saul. Jimmy and Chuck McGill with Kim Wexler and Howard Hamlin are among the best you will see on TV.
It's funny, I still like the show, but I agree with a lot of what you said. I think of it as a kind of smart and sophisticated soap opera.
So much of the conflict seems obviously manufactured and unnecessary, with the characters constantly flip-flopping in their allegiances and animosities. One moment they are swearing to never betray or to distrust each other again, and the next moment they are lying to or manipulating each other again, when they really don't have to. And the viewer is watching thinking: this really isn't going to turn out well. And it doesn't, and then miraculously does, after all.
I actually enjoy most of the characters, but it does seem to me that the writers are making up a lot of it as they go along, as opposed to having a definite story arc in mind when they start the season, or even some episodes within a season. Oh well, I still like it anyway, no matter how often I say to the screen: "Just act like an adult. Or just level with the other person. Don't try to be so clever and devious." But, then, cleverness and deviousness are part of the charm, I guess, and more adult behavior would probably be boring.