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There is a scenario where she is NOT pregnant. If you google Thorazine and false urine pregnancy results you will see hits. Now what is the probability of that scenario, I don't know but it is something the writers could throw in if they wanted to.
Might be why she threw out the meds.
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The large number of positive test strips in the drawer would predate her confinement where she would have no pregnancy tests and at which time only she would have had Thorazine. Therefore, the Thorazine did not cause a false positive for all the pregnancy tests.

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Perhaps she's testing 2 or 3 times a day, after all she is bipolar.
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Comments on another forum reached the hilarious, discussing the sheer number of pee samples in the drawer.
Must admit it would make for a big whiff fest after a while. Unless I missed a memo on girl pee, the stuff gets a little gamy eek.gif
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the show is setting up for Carrie to either save the terrorist in Iran or use him to get her in touch with Brodie, either one upsetting Saul, to the point of turning her over to the new CIA director?
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I'm getting the sick feeling that this show is turning into "24". I loved the first season, as the personalities of Brody and Carrie were interesting to follow, the impacts on their families as they played a cat and mouse game. It was a character driven drama and intense. Now it's turning into a plot-driven drama with more emphasis on situations moving the narrative. But the intensity has been replaced by ridiculous situations so far. I hope it improves, as each successive season has declined in quality.
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Comments on another forum reached the hilarious, discussing the sheer number of pee samples in the drawer.
Must admit it would make for a big whiff fest after a while. Unless I missed a memo on girl pee, the stuff gets a little gamy eek.gif

Probably not unlike a cat's litter box that hasn't been cleaned recently. wink.gif
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Both Damien Lewis and Claire Danes have been making the publicity rounds this week. I wonder if the big connection is about to happen. Personally I am ready to move on from the Brody story but there seem to be a lot of people out there who still want him.
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Saul's in vuvu!!

Brody is all messed up on heroin wow
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Another very good episode...

Mira's squeeze being an agent was a nice twist. It's lucky for him that the acting CIA director doesn't have any security on his house!
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Personally I am ready to move on from the Brody story but there seem to be a lot of people out there who still want him.

There's no reason to move on just yet, he has to clear his name to the public eye. A handful of high-ranking CIA officials is one thing, your family, friends, the whole country is another. Let's not forget that he has been accused of a lot of things, yet he hasn't actually perpetrated half of those things.

I think people watch the show because besides all the new storylines and developements, everybody wants to see Brody back in the game one way or another. The show is about 3 major characters and he's still one of them.

And based on next week episode's previews, we're in for a treat. smile.gif
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The wife and I both turned to each other after Brody was on screen and said, "You know, I think we could have done without going back to this storyline." I wouldn't have cared at all if we hadn't seen Brody again. The rest of the story is really building up enough that we would have never have missed his storyline.

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So, some things:

- I guess it has been 13 weeks since Brody left, and he's the father, I was almost sure it was that one night stand Carrie had
- I knew that Saul's wife lover was fishy since the beginning, now confirmed
- The real bomber dead and disolved, why is Saul with Brody? is he going to play him once more?
- Quinn has great aim, if he shot not to kill of course, the other sniper could have killed her easily

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So, some things:
- The real bomber dead and disolved, why is Saul with Brody? is he going to play him once more?

That's probably what we're going to find out very soon. Have you seen next week's preview?
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So? Of course he didn't shoot to kill, and Quinn didn't want to do it but he follows orders too. He wanted to take the shot most likely *because* he wanted to make sure she wouldn't get killed by the other dude.
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so is Saul going to use Brody as an agent and send him into Iran ? is Saul even guarenteed a job in the CIA once the Senator takes over in 9 days? if Saul is let go then what happens to Brody, especially if he's sent back to the Middle East? is the agent who was sleeping with Saul's wife, from Iran ?
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Carrie was going to risk the mission just to clear Brody's name.

So yeah, he may have been innocent of the Langley bombing but he killed the VP. Has she forgiven him for that, or the fact that he tried to kill a bunker full of people in season 1?


You can't recuperate his reputation. He's a murder/terrorist. He didn't do as much damage as he could have but he acted against the interests of his own country, to warn Nazir and to carry out the assassination that Nazir wanted.

There should be no outcome for Brody other than a jail cell or possibly execution.
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Carrie was going to risk the mission just to clear Brody's name.

So yeah, he may have been innocent of the Langley bombing but he killed the VP. Has she forgiven him for that, or the fact that he tried to kill a bunker full of people in season 1?


You can't recuperate his reputation. He's a murder/terrorist. He didn't do as much damage as he could have but he acted against the interests of his own country, to warn Nazir and to carry out the assassination that Nazir wanted.

There should be no outcome for Brody other than a jail cell or possibly execution.

What about the CIA "recruiting" Javadi? Is it morally more defendable than clearing Brody's name? In season 2 he did give them all they wanted to know about Nazir.
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I think you folks are being a little tough on Brody. After all, who hasn't at one time or another wanted to murder one of our VP's?

As for the bunker bombing, that was probably a stress reaction to being required to do a lot of public speaking. His biggest sin is not smothering Dana when he had the chance.

In any event, the American way is to excuse his transgressions by sending him to rehab and having him issue a public apology. Then we can all be friends again.
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I think you folks are being a little tough on Brody. After all, who hasn't at one time or another wanted to murder one of our VP's?

As for the bunker bombing, that was probably a stress reaction to being required to do a lot of public speaking. His biggest sin is not smothering Dana when he had the chance.

In any event, the American way is to excuse his transgressions by sending him to rehab and having him issue a public apology. Then we can all be friends again.

He also murdered his old marine buddy in the tunnel. He is a murderer plain and simple and he should be DEAD and no longer spoken about.

You cannot rehabilitate the fact that he is a murderer.
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He also murdered his old marine buddy in the tunnel. He is a murderer plain and simple and he should be DEAD and no longer spoken about.

You cannot rehabilitate the fact that he is a murderer.

So the VP sanctioning a strike that killed more than 80 children was probably a good man too? ...They are all "murderers" in some way. Where do you draw the line? His marine buddy was a terrorist as well.
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So the VP sanctioning a strike that killed more than 80 children was probably a good man too? ...They are all "murderers" in some way. Where do you draw the line? His marine buddy was a terrorist as well.

Whether you like the US government policy or not that was authorized and not vigilante in nature. He was not authorized with a license to kill his ex buddy. He was not working for "CTU" if you will. He was both self interested and thinking about Nazzir? for that kill. That is the line unless you want to say he was in Florida and invoking "Stand your Ground".
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Carrie was going to risk the mission just to clear Brody's name.

So yeah, he may have been innocent of the Langley bombing but he killed the VP. Has she forgiven him for that, or the fact that he tried to kill a bunker full of people in season 1?


You can't recuperate his reputation. He's a murder/terrorist. He didn't do as much damage as he could have but he acted against the interests of his own country, to warn Nazir and to carry out the assassination that Nazir wanted.

There should be no outcome for Brody other than a jail cell or possibly execution.

Actually, Saul has a very different outcome in mind. Being a most-wanted terrorist, Brody is now a perfect candidate for being planted as a double agent. Its the same strategy used to plant Carrie. They were already working this angle when the CIA bombing happened, Saul is just going to use that to further the plan. Saul intends to have high level plants in both the Iran and the terrorist organizations. Its not a bad plan, and if he can get it all in motion before the senator takes over, they might have to keep Saul on just to run it.
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Whether you like the US government policy or not that was authorized and not vigilante in nature.

So an attack on civilians is cool as long as it's authorized? eek.gif Of course there are other ways than killing the guy responsible, but still!

Why did Javadi get to kill his ex-wife in cold blood without at least getting arrested? Because there are "more important" and urgent things at stake?

My point is, every single one of these characters make at some point some very questionable (to say the least!) decisions. Why Brody is still alive, because the CIA might still need him. Why did they let him rot in his venezuelan sh!thole, to punish him for the VP or something? We don't know that yet. The thing is, except for murdering the VP, Brody hasn't perpretrated any terrorist attack. He wanted to, he was brainwashed and all, it came very close, but he didn't do it.
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The VP could be brought up for war crimes if the strikes he authorized violated those international laws. But lets face it, no American official will ever be prosecuted for those.

But that is not to say Brody, acting as an agent for a terrorist, is morally justified in killing the VP.


As for turning Javadi, who's high up in the Iranian intelligence establishment, that's about as credible as Brody texting from the situation room.


Incidentally, if some American warned Bin Laden as the Seal team was closing in on him, would he be guilty of treason? Because Brody stopped a US action that was deemed in the national security interest of the US.
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Originally Posted by Leftcoastdave

I think you folks are being a little tough on Brody. After all, who hasn't at one time or another wanted to murder one of our VP's?

As for the bunker bombing, that was probably a stress reaction to being required to do a lot of public speaking. His biggest sin is not smothering Dana when he had the chance.

In any event, the American way is to excuse his transgressions by sending him to rehab and having him issue a public apology. Then we can all be friends again.

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He also murdered his old marine buddy in the tunnel. He is a murderer plain and simple and he should be DEAD and no longer spoken about.

You cannot rehabilitate the fact that he is a murderer.

You do realize I was kidding, right? My point is in modern America all is forgiven in exchange for public apology which I find absurd. Full disclosure, I was half serious about some of our more recent Vice Presidents.
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He also murdered his old marine buddy in the tunnel. He is a murderer plain and simple and he should be DEAD and no longer spoken about.

You cannot rehabilitate the fact that he is a murderer.
He also killed that 'compromised terrorist' in the woods who tried to run away.

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terrible season up to this point...I hear the last 4 episodes are supposed to be really good so hopefully they can redeem themselves...the writers seemed to be listening to the fans who wanted Brody off the show but in doing so they only made us miss him even more due to the horrible storylines the first 8 episodes...ironically the best episode was the Brody one showing him living in Venezuela...the Javadi story has not had the same impact as Nazir...so now Saul is going to turn Brody back into the soldier he was before he was captured by Nazir?...has to be better then Carrie looking for her baby daddy
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What kind of rounds are used by Quinn in the sniper rifle that you can hit someone in the arm and not blow their arm off or at least permanently lose the use of it if you survive?
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What kind of rounds are used by Quinn in the sniper rifle that you can hit someone in the arm and not blow their arm off or at least permanently lose the use of it if you survive?
Maybe it was a BB gun.

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terrible season up to this point...I hear the last 4 episodes are supposed to be really good so hopefully they can redeem themselves...the writers seemed to be listening to the fans who wanted Brody off the show

Considering the "fans" would usually make awful writers if that was the case that was crappy plan. smile.gif
From what I've read the last part of the season will focus on Brody. So far I'd say season 3 isn't as strong as the first 2 but I like it nonetheless.
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