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post #1 of 18 Old 08-14-2011, 12:23 AM - Thread Starter
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I just discovered this show on Netflix.
Very, very, very good !!!
The Brits just have a knack for flipping the cop show genre.

I have only watched the first 2 episodes of season 1 and could have easily
kept going till the 6th and final episode of the first season,
all in one sitting!
The show is utterly compelling and non-condescending.
Many of our own shows produced in the U.S. make the mistake of spoon-feeding the audience with trite story lines and stereotypical characters, which gives them all a sameness and often leave us unsatisfied.

Check out 'Luther' for a refreshing change of pace.

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Good news for you then. There was a second series, which aired a month or two ago on the BBC in the UK.

(Think both S1 and S2 were HD)
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That is good news !!!

cheers!

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I DVRed Series 1 on BBC America HD when it aired (it was on Sunday nights at the same time Walking Dead was on AMC)... but haven't watched yet.

Assuming I like it, I was hoping/figuring BBC America would eventually air the 2nd series as well.
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The show is utterly compelling and non-condescending.
Many of our own shows produced in the U.S. make the mistake of spoon-feeding the audience with trite story lines and stereotypical characters, which gives them all a sameness and often leave us unsatisfied.

Been watching a lot of british tv lately for that very reason. Luther returns on BBC America as part of Dramaville, sometime in Sept. I think. In the meantime you might want to check out Wire in the Blood and Touching Evil. both starring Robson Green, for two shows in the same genre. Also Waking the Dead, which is similiar to Cold Case but much better.

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"Silent Witness" - now on-air for about 15 years is also a pretty popular BBC crime series.

Forensic science-based, but very different to CSI. (Far less glamorous, and stylised) The show has rebooted itself a couple of times (was originally set in Cambridge with Amanda Burton cast as lead, then relocated to London with Amanda Burton leading a team, then Amanda Burton left and it became more of an ensemble piece.)

Like Waking the Dead, it is more of an "occasional two-parter" style rather than a 13 part series. (In the UK it is far more common for us to do a short run of two, three or four stories a year - either as 2 x 1 hour two-parters, or a single 90 or 120 min episode a year)

Originally shot on film (and originally aired 4:3 SD), for the bulk of it's life it was 16:9 SD Super 16, but since it switched to HD it has used electronic capture, using Arri's D20 or D21 camera I believe, and it usually looks cracking.
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I thought the first 4 episodes of Luther (series 1) were fantastic but it gets a bit over the top after that. The second series isn't as good, but still entertaining if unbelievable. I just finished watching another British new detective series called "The Shadow Line". Watch that one if you can find it, its ever better than Luther.
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TV Review
'Luther' suffers sophomore slump
By Rob Owen, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - September 27th, 2011

BBC America's "Luther" returns for a second season of four one-hour episodes this week, and how fans feel about it may depend to some degree on what they liked best about the crime drama in season one.

The horrific, often grotesque and sadistic crimes are back with one story for the first two episodes (a masked killer who dances on CCTV) and a second crime plot for episodes three and four (the messenger bag killer).

Detective John Luther (Idris Elba, "The Wire") investigates, as usual, bringing his keen insight of human behavior to the crimes. But this season he receives significantly less assistance from his first-season helper, serial killer Alice (Ruth Wilson).

Although the show is called "Luther", it was at its best last year when it was "The Luther and Alice Show." She's barely present in the first two hours of the new, shortened season and only referenced in the last two. Perhaps writer/creator Neil Cross felt it stretched credulity for his Hannibal Lecter (Alice) to hang out so often with his Clarice Starling (Luther) -- not that the show shies away from leaps of logic in other areas. Or maybe there were other factors at play.

Whatever the reason, "Luther" is diminished.

Some time has passed since the cliffhanger that ended season one.
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It's explained away in dialogue with haste, but several characters return, even Luther's deceased ex-wife's boyfriend, Mark (Paul McGann).

Alice is in jail and
Luther rejoins with his former partner, detective Justin Ripley (Warren Brown), working for an old foe, former police complaints officer Martin Schenk (Dermot Crowley), in the new Serious and Serial police unit. A new co-worker, Erin Gray (Nikki Amuka-Bird), is wise to Luther's unorthodox ways and wary of working alongside him.

The series remains an intense, engrossing crime procedural with strong moments of character development, but Mr. Cross gets a bit sloppy in his plotting. We know Luther has impulse-control issues, but he's also supposed to be brilliant, and entering almost every potential hazardous situation without a partner or backup diminishes the character's intelligence. Same goes for the way he handles bad situations, such as when he's blackmailed into getting police files for human traffickers: He's constantly digging himself a deeper hole.

"Luther" remains one of TV's best crime dramas, but in its second season it's already showing some signs of slippage.

'LUTHER' (Season 2)
When: 10 p.m. Wednesday, BBC America.


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I agree pretty much with that review. But I look at Luther's impulsiveness and "digging himself deeper into a a hole" as more as flaws in his makeup and not a sign of lack of intelligence.

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Seems like a real serial-killer fest this season. This week's episode was about a nut case that attacks Londoners with an acid-filled squirt gun and hammers or clubs--depending on the results of a dice throw. Preview for next week reveals, although they nabbed him after a horrific office slaughter scene, there's an equally psychotic twin brother taking his place. A continuing subplot, with Luther harboring a girl he rescued from pornographers, leaves him with a dead body in his apartment to handle next week. -- John
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I'm loving this series. Interesting characters and British perspective make for a nice break from same old American procedurals.
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I'm loving this series. Interesting characters and British perspective make for a nice break from same old American procedurals.

agreed, but its definately slid downwards from the 1st series. Reminds me a little too much of Wire in the Blood, but not as good. Still rather watch it than nearly any american show though.

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The more they can have of the smart redhead with the strange lips the better
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The more they can have of the smart redhead with the strange lips the better

Psycho girl. Actually I find her lips quite similar the the female lead in Warehouse 13.
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I was waiting for episode 5 but discovered on BBC American and numerous other sites that only 4 episodes were made for the season. I thought it left things hanging a bit more than usual but BBC has ordered a season 3.
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He's back. On BBCA at least for season 4 tonight (9--11:45 pm eastern). Something about him trying to lead a 'normal' life. Popped up here on an old un-erased DVR series setting. Refreshing this 2011 thread since it's a non-specific season. Not a special fan. But it's better than many mysteries, as mentioned above. -- John


EDIT: NY Times brief discussion, including what rhymes with Hannibal.

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Question is for us cable cutters which service will it be on? Netflix currently has the first 3 seasons so maybe they'll have it. And perhaps soon since they had "River" almost as soon as it had completed in the UK.
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^^^Yes, it's a puzzler how or where season 4 will run. Caught all 2-3/4 hours on BBCA last night and enjoyed it. Couldn't pin down at BBCA's site when the next show in the series will appear. Since my FIOS series guide 'spotted' this new show, though, guess it'll detect the next one. More details about the 'tortured detective' in the full NY Times review. Glad I can wire, if needed, my own home for video/computers rather than hiring a geeky alternative! -- John
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