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I didn't see a thread about this new series that started tonight. I apologize if one exists already.

I thought the pilot was quite interesting. Looks like the plot could get intricate, but I am a sucker for serialized shows, so that's just how I like it. Buffy still looks good it seems too . I will be watching for sure. Anyone else?
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It started off kinda weak. The scenes where the 2 sisters were together, just felt off. But once Shevon (there's no way I'm going to spell that correctly) "committed suicide," the show started getting good. I really enjoyed watching Bridget try to adjust to all the messed up stuff going on in her sister's life.

I was genuinely surprised that Shevon is still alive. She seems very manipulative, selfish, and evil. If I'm understanding the plot correctly, it looks like she tried to have Bridget killed, so that she (the real Shevon), could fake her own death.

I'm very curious as to how Bridget is going to handle the fact that she's supposed to be 4 months pregnant. The most logical thing to do, would be to fake a miscarriage.

With all of the different plot lines that have been introduced, Ringer could easily have a soap opera feel to it. Fortunately, it doesn't feel like a soap opera; at least to me.

I've given the show a Season Pass. As long as it doesn't become corny, I think its got a lot of potential.

P.S. I was very disappointed when Bridget started to take off her top, but then decided not to. What a tease!

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I'm very curious as to how Bridget is going to handle the fact that she's supposed to be 4 months pregnant. The most logical thing to do, would be to fake a miscarriage.

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I believe that's 4 weeks, not months.
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I believe that's 4 weeks, not months.

My mistake. Then she better get pregnant soon. Hopefully in the next episode.

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Is it just me or does the plot of this series sound incredibly boring?

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It was OK and I was going to give it the thumbs up to record next weeks episode but got the no-go from Tivo.....already two things recording at the same time next week and unlike this pilot it will not be repeated I need one of those 4 tuner Tivos or even a 3 tuner would do at times.....maybe I'll remember to watch it live, but then their is the commercials nothing on all summer and now 3 things at one time! Seems like this show might have potential.
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Is it just me or does the plot of this series sound incredibly boring?

Did you watch it? Before I saw the pilot, I wasn't sure how interesting it would be either. But after 1 episode, it seems quite engaging to me. More than I expected.
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Is it just me or does the plot of this series sound incredibly boring?

I haven't watched it yet, but this one actually seems to have some interesting qualities about it.

It certainly seems more viable than, say, "Revenge" which makes me wonder just how much revenge someone needs to take to make a series.


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Nielsen Overnights (18-49)
'Ringer' lifts CW to best Tuesday in two years
New Sarah Michelle Gellar drama averages 2.74 viewers
By Toni Fitzgerald, Media Life Magazine - September 14th, 2011

The new TV season doesn't officially begin until next week, but last night three shows premiered early, including one new program.

The CW's much-anticipated new drama "Ringer," starring Sarah Michelle Gellar as a pair of troubled twins, got off to a solid start, building on its low-rated lead-in in virtually every demo.

"Ringer" averaged a 1.2 adults 18-49 rating at 9 p.m., according to Nielsen overnights, up 50 percent over its lead-in, the season premiere of "90210."

"Ringer" drew a 1.1 in 18-34s, building on "90210" by 0.2, and a 1.6 in women 18-34, 23 percent better than "90210." Of note, though, that was well below what "Melrose Place," the last big-buzz show for the CW, bowed to two years ago.

"Ringer," which the CW hopes will widen its audience beyond women 18-34, became the CW's most-watched program in the Tuesday 9 p.m. timeslot since "90210" bowed three years ago, drawing 2.74 million total viewers.

That lifted the CW to its most-watched Tuesday night in two years (2.18 million viewers) as well as its best among women 18-34 (1.4) since November 2009.

Meanwhile, NBC had the night's highest-rated show with the penultimate episode of "America's Got Talent," leading into tonight's finale.

"Talent" averaged a 3.6 18-49 rating at 9 p.m., marking an eight-week high in the demo.

Lead-out "Parenthood" lost 36 percent of that audience at 10 p.m., averaging a 2.3 for its third-season premiere, up slightly over last year's season average of 2.1 but down from the second-season premiere, which averaged a 2.7.

NBC was first for the night among 18-49s with a 2.4 average overnight rating and a 7 share. Univision was second at 1.8/5, ABC third at 1.7/5, CBS fourth at 1.6/5, CW fifth at 1.0/3, Fox sixth at 0.9/3 and Telemundo seventh at 0.4/1.

As a reminder, all ratings are based on live-plus-same-day DVR playback. Seven-day DVR data won't be available for several weeks. Forty-one percent of Nielsen households have DVRs.

At 8 p.m. ABC and Univision tied for first at 2.0, ABC for "Wipeout" and Univision for "Teresa." CBS was third with a 1.7 for a repeat of "NCIS," NBC fourth with a 1.1 for "It's Worth What?," Fox fifth with a 1.0 for a "Glee" rerun, CW sixth with a 0.8 for "90210" and Telemundo seventh with a 0.4 for "Mi Corazon Insiste."

NBC moved to first at 9 p.m. with a 3.6 for "Talent," with Univision second with a 2.2 for "La Fuerza del Destino." ABC and CBS tied for third at 1.6, ABC for "Jacqueline Kennedy: In Her Own Words" and CBS for a repeat of "NCIS: Los Angeles," with CW fifth with a 1.2 for "Ringer," Fox sixth with a 0.8 for repeats of "Raising Hope" and Telemundo seventh with a 0.4 for "Flor Salvaje."

At 10 p.m. NBC led again with a 2.3 for "Parenthood," with CBS second with a 1.7 for another "NCIS: LA" rerun. ABC was third with a 1.5 for more of its Kennedy special, Univision fourth with a 1.3 for "Aqui y Ahora" and Telemundo fifth with a 0.6 for "La Casa de al Lado."

CBS led the night among households with a 5.8 average overnight rating and a 9 share. ABC was second at 5.2/8, NBC third at 5.1/8, Univision fourth at 1.8/5, Fox fifth at 1.5/2, CW sixth at 1.4/2 and Telemundo seventh at 0.7/1.

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Did you watch it? Before I saw the pilot, I wasn't sure how interesting it would be either. But after 1 episode, it seems quite engaging to me. More than I expected.

Saw it last night. I didn't think it was too bad. Will stick with it unless it goes off the rails.
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Saw it last night. I didn't think it was too bad. Will stick with it unless it goes off the rails.

Define "off the rails"...

We are talking about a show where the concept is a woman who takes here supposedly dead twin's place, only to find out she's being hunted by bad guys and might not be dead at all.

Now, if it turns out her twin was her clone, her imagination or a killer cyborg sent back in time by the ghost of Bill Gates to prevent Linux from being popular, then we might have issues...


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P.S. I was very disappointed when Bridget started to take off her top, but then decided not to. What a tease!

Dude ! She did, but you missed that part
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Well I have to agree with folks. I DVR'd this out of curiosity and initially couldn't get past the first few minutes (the cold opening was YAWN) but after watching the whole episode, I will stay with it. Mostly I'm fascinated how they'll write their way out of all the crazy stuff they've put in this first episode.

And having SMG on screen again doesnt hurt either does it? So let's see how this goes...
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And having SMG on screen again doesnt hurt either does it? So let's see how this goes...

SMG is fine but what I don't like on my screen is the constant snipes and bugs advertising programs coming up I rarely watch CW and this is one reason, VERY distracting during dark scenes like the shootout scene, but then I guess this complaint belongs in the Enough with all the clutter (graphics) on my HD screen! Pretty good looking HD in my market though
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I didn't watch the show, but this clip did make me laugh.

Watch the Hilariously Bad-Looking Boat Scene From Ringer

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I didn't watch the show, but this clip did make me laugh.

Watch the Hilariously Bad-Looking Boat Scene From Ringer

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SO true. It was comical as I watched it. So funny.
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I liked the show and will continue watching.

It seemed like parts of that boat scene were done inside of a studio with a water backdrop.


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It was OK and I was going to give it the thumbs up to record next weeks episode but got the no-go from Tivo.....already two things recording at the same time next week and unlike this pilot it will not be repeated I need one of those 4 tuner Tivos or even a 3 tuner would do at times.....maybe I'll remember to watch it live, but then their is the commercials nothing on all summer and now 3 things at one time! Seems like this show might have potential.

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Seemed interesting to me - my wife was a Buffy fan so had set the DVR. The boat scene was terrible, though. TV shows 20 years ago did better.
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I haven't watched it yet, but this one actually seems to have some interesting qualities about it.

I did record it, so I guess I'll give it go.

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SMG kinda outshines the material imo, though maybe thats just me.She's working awfully hard to make it believable, and she has the rare quality to make me care what happens to her no matter what the storyline is...Thats one of the unsung secrets of Buffy's success, and I'll even admit to liking the american version of The Grudge over the original for that very reason. And even though the basic premise is as old as the hills there were a couple of fresh twists that surprised me. Bottom line: It could go either way. For now I'm watching with high hopes...

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For 5 bucks, or so, get a second DVR.

I'm OTA so for me it would be much more than $5/month. My Tivo HD was $500+ including lifetime service....of course I've got many SD DVD Recorders I could use but with a show like this it's HD or nothin' for me I'll probably try and watch it live and suffer through the commercials
BTW I also agree on the boat scene and was laughing at it the whole way though, I can't believe that wasn't the writers intention though, how could it have been so bad otherwise. The rest of the show was pretty decent production quality.
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I do like Sarah Michelle but...

The whole "drop an identical twin into a situation she knows little to nothing about and then have her navigate the shoals with little problems" was never terribly believeable and is less so now, but I suppose one can file this under willing suspension of disbelief.

What is more annoying is the apparent lack of any sort of self-containment of episodes (it's all one big blob, just split up), plus it seems to be another of these shows that string you along, promising big reveals to come. Heroes wore that sort of serial "long form" out for me, and kept me away from The Event and the one that preceeded Caprica, don't remember its name.

I think I'll still watch this, but it needs to improve.

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I do like Sarah Michelle but...

The whole "drop an identical twin into a situation she knows little to nothing about and then have her navigate the shoals with little problems" was never terribly believeable and is less so now, but I suppose one can file this under willing suspension of disbelief.

What is more annoying is the apparent lack of any sort of self-containment of episodes (it's all one big blob, just split up), plus it seems to be another of these shows that string you along, promising big reveals to come. Heroes wore that sort of serial "long form" out for me, and kept me away from The Event and the one that preceeded Caprica, don't remember its name.

I think I'll still watch this, but it needs to improve.

Agree with everything you say. I think you and I are on the same page, its just a matter of perception: is the glass 1/2 full or 1/2 empty? Right now I'm saying 1/2 full due to Sarah mainly, but that could change real fast.

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I'm OTA so for me it would be much more than $5/month. My Tivo HD was $500+ including lifetime service....of course I've got many SD DVD Recorders I could use but with a show like this it's HD or nothin' for me I'll probably try and watch it live and suffer through the commercials

If you have a spare computer, you can turn it into an OTA dvr by adding a tuner card and big hard drive, both pretty cheap these days.

I enjoyed the first episode of Ringer. I liked the way it required my full attention to follow what was going on. It seems like few shows require more than 20% of my attention. Hopefully, they can maintain the same level of plot twists.

I do think if Bridget was a stripper and a prostitute back in Wyoming, she has come across too much as a 'goody-goody' so far. This is the CW after all. She should have gone a lot further with Siobhan's husband when she first met him than a mere chaste kiss before figuring out he and her sister weren't a loving couple.

Other than the boat scene, I liked the production values. I loved all the close-ups of SMG's face, it was great to see her again. It makes me wish Buffy had been available in HD rather than really crappy SD.

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SMG is fine but what I don't like on my screen is the constant snipes and bugs advertising programs coming up I rarely watch CW and this is one reason, VERY distracting during dark scenes like the shootout scene, but then I guess this complaint belongs in the Enough with all the clutter (graphics) on my HD screen!

There were snipes and bugs and clutter, including, but not limited to, commercials/promos on your screen? There weren't on my screen.

I hate screen clutter and the CW really knows how to annoy the viewer.

I go out of my way to try and avoid that crap, but there are too many times when I can't.

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it seems to be another of these shows that string you along, promising big reveals to come. Heroes wore that sort of serial "long form" out for me, and kept me away from The Event and the one that preceeded Caprica, don't remember its name.

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Boy, did the pilot ever get drilled by critics and viewers alike for the boat scene. Overall, I thought it wasn't great, but not awful... didn't plan on watching episode 2 until the final twist. I like Britt Robertson so I'll stick with Secret Circle for another week or 2, but it's likely Nikita will be the only thing I watch on the CW.. again.
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Boy, did the pilot ever get drilled by critics and viewers alike for the boat scene. Overall, I thought it wasn't great, but not awful...

Well, even my wife said it was crappy and she doesn't usually comment on those kinds of things. Still going to watch though. Decent pilot.
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I like Britt Robertson so I'll stick with Secret Circle for another week or 2,

Ringer and Secret Circle are similar in that both have appealing lead actresses that outshine the material and co-stars, but both shows aren't compelling enough to want to tune in every week.
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