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It honestly feels like the writers completely forgot about the "zombie" Grimm storyline. For a while that was part of every episode and then it just stopped.

Personally, I'm hoping that becomes the reason how Nick gets his powers back, otherwise that was a complete waste of time.
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It honestly feels like the writers completely forgot about the "zombie" Grimm storyline. For a while that was part of every episode and then it just stopped.

Personally, I'm hoping that becomes the reason how Nick gets his powers back, otherwise that was a complete waste of time.

I was hoping they would follow that story line more. It was cool seeing him with superpowers. wink.gif

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okay, not saying this is right, but here's my theory about the whole zombie thing. It didn't give Nick superpowers so much as allowing him to realize the powers he already had. Even after learning he was a Grimm I don't think Nick truly believed it on a subconscious level. Even though he could see Wesson it was so drilled in his head by a lifetime in a rational world that the supernatural didn't exist he didn't fully realize his own abilities. It was only during the zombie time that his true nature was fully revealed to him, and he started to believe how special he was. There is precedent for that in an earlier series Greenwalt helped create. Even though she had super strength, etc., Buffy was unaware of being different until she was told she was the slayer.

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btw, Wesson is a brand of cooking oil. Smith & Wesson make guns.

Wesen is German for "creature."

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thanks for pointing that out.

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btw, Wesson is a brand of cooking oil. Smith & Wesson make guns.

Wesen is German for "creature."

 

That's what the TV show gets for pronouncing it "Wessen".   In my dictionary (Cassell's), "creature" is not the primary definition of Wesen.  It lists meanings in clusters:  reality, substance, essence; being, creature, living thing, organism; state, condition; nature, character, property, intrinsic virtue; conduct, demeanour, air, way, bearing.  My sense is more toward the essence of the thing, one's nature/character, so in that sense, it's 'creature,' inclusive of all living beings.  But hey, it's German so the meaning comes from modifiers, and thus the definition of Wesen takes up almost a quarter of the page -- notably with no focus on what we would call a "Creature".   "Das höchste Wesen," is the Supreme Being, not creature.  

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btw, Wesson is a brand of cooking oil. Smith & Wesson make guns.

Wesen is German for "creature."

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The Adalind storylines have never interested me. The idea of Adalind taking on the appearance of Juliette made me do an eye roll.
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Didn't like the final episode. Grimm without his powers is stupid and cliché.
Finally watched the final 2 episodes.

Enjoyed the penultimate episode fairly well.
Unfortunately, the finale was very poorly, very sloppily written by Jim Kouf & David Greenwalt.

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This could be the setup for the best season of Grimm yet: with Nick de-Grimmified, he and Juliette can leave to lead a normal life, Adalind can fly off to Germany never to be heard from again when the Royals kill her after she lands, Renard is already dead, and Wu is about to discover that Wessen are real. This leaves Trubel, Wu, Rosalie, and Monroe to form a new Scoobie gang free from the annoyances of the first three seasons while Hank becomes the new captain. Hey, I can dream, right? tongue.gif
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Kouf and Greenwalt screwed the pooch Wessen on the season-ender and left a bad taste in my mouth.
The series better get back on track next year or I'm dropping it (Claire Coffee not withstanding).

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The total vagueness of this show lets the writers think they can get away with anything.

So now we learn that, after all, the only way Nick even knows he's a Grimm at all is that he can see Wesen? That's the extent to which the show is willing to go to explain what any of this means or how it works?

It's a willful and intense dedication to mediocrity of epic proportions. It's like they know there's such a thing as a great TV show, but have no interest in even trying to be one.

They show Grimms as highly skilled, fast, strong, superior fighters. But they refuse to say whether this is a "power" or how the Grimm him/herself feels or thinks about it -- or whether (in Nick's and Trubel's cases) whether they even noticed it before they recognized that they were something called a "Grimm." But Nick's not a Grimm now, and feels no change in himself.

(Why didn't Nick see Wesen before he knew he was a Grimm? Anyone remember?)

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Nick couldn't see Wesen before the show started because Grimm-ness is apparently like puberty: it just hits you suddenly. It is also not like puberty, in that there seems to be no rule as to when it hits you. Nick didn't "activate" until his 30s, Trubel activated in her teens, and the son of the old Grimm with the second Key is in his 30s yet still unactivated.
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Nick couldn't see Wesen before the show started because Grimm-ness is apparently like puberty: it just hits you suddenly. It is also not like puberty, in that there seems to be no rule as to when it hits you. Nick didn't "activate" until his 30s, Trubel activated in her teens, and the son of the old Grimm with the second Key is in his 30s yet still unactivated.
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Sorry, oink, but I don't think Bauerschwein can also be Grimms. wink.gif
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Kouf and Greenwalt screwed the pooch Wessen on the season-ender and left a bad taste in my mouth.
The series better get back on track next year or I'm dropping it (Claire Coffee not withstanding).

I asked myself countless times during the show's run why I'm still watching. I don't know what surprises me more, me still watching or that other viewers with better taste than me are still doing it too. There are rewards for sticking with it, but overall Grimm has been a very frustrating experience. And yet I'll be back next year. Go figure. rolleyes.gif

Wessen is a vegetable oil, btw.... smile.gif

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I guess you should never try The Vampire Diaries on the CW where it happens every episode.tongue.gif

You're admitting to watching "Vampire Diaries" .. ?? wink.giftongue.gif

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Sorry, oink, but I don't think Bauerschwein can also be Grimms. wink.gif
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other viewers with better taste than me are still doing it too.
I don't know anyone around here with "better taste" than you, Old Friend.wink.gif

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