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Come to think of it, that would be a hilarious angle to take: his Grimmness was holding the zombieness at bay, and now that he's un-Grimmified... he's back to being a full-time zombie!

That would require some innovative thinking on the part of the writers, not going to happen.
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Once again, we get Wu-teased. Just as he comes, asking for answers, he gets sidelined-not once, but twice. The show establishes just how mentally dangerous it is when one becomes aware of 'the truth', and the writers allow the main characters to torture Wu by not putting his need for explanations-you know, in order to not go nutzo..ahead of their out dated attitude of 'keeping sh#t secreeeeet.

I guess it's supposed to be funny, but for me, it's massively irritating.
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Once again, we get Wu-teased. Just as he comes, asking for answers, he gets sidelined-not once, but twice. The show establishes just how mentally dangerous it is when one becomes aware of 'the truth', and the writers allow the main characters to torture Wu by not putting his need for explanations-you know, in order to not go nutzo..ahead of their out dated attitude of 'keeping sh#t secreeeeet.

I guess it's supposed to be funny, but for me, it's massively irritating.
They're only making it worse for him. There's really no reason, seeing as we've already been through this before.
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C'mon, it's a Trope! You have to honor the Trope you know. I'm pretty sure it's a legal requirement in order to be in the Hollywood writers union.
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C'mon, it's a Trope! You have to honor the Trope you know. I'm pretty sure it's a legal requirement in order to be in the Hollywood writers union.
It's too much of a dated cliche like a damsel in distress, it's gotten too old, at least try to come up with something else or use a different trope that hasn't been done to death.
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It is irritating and disrespectful to the viewers. I guess the writers are intentionally teasing us now because they can. I am wondering if it's way too late now.
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Or the writers want more Wu, but ran out of snappy one-liners...

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Or the writers want more Wu, but ran out of snappy one-liners...

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That's not a good thing, he's no longer a fun comic relief character he used to be, he's just another waste of time subplot that's beyond tired at this point.

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It is irritating and disrespectful to the viewers. I guess the writers are intentionally teasing us now because they can. I am wondering if it's way too late now.
Pretty much, I'm just glazing through episodes now, I just don't care about any of the storylines nowadays: You have Nick who's just there, Hank barely even existing, Juliette who has nothing better to do, Wu no longer is a fun comic relief character since they took that away from him, Monroe and Rosalee have a few scenes together and even they don't know what to do, you have Trubel who's trying to do things by herself but she can't really carry the show well enough especially since she's not developed well enough to be the main Grimm atm, and I could care less about Adalind and whatever bs they'll waste the whole season on (the baby plot went nowhere and so did the Royals for 4 seasons now).

I just don't know what they're trying to do since they have most of the cast with barely much to do at all in this series anymore.
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This season is quickly starting to push me away. It's just spinning its wheels going nowhere. Here we are, 1/3 of the way through the season, and we've had all of maybe 15 minutes of the interesting new subplot with the Wesen extremists. Nick still doesn't have his Grimm back. Adalind has gone back to being whiny and mostly useless instead of being a hexen-beast on a vengeful tear. Juliette stands around looking lost and hopeless praying for the "normal" days. Hank, is Hank still around? Wu is no longer funny and the number of times he has been cut off in his inquiries is getting stupidly ridiculous. Trubel still doesn't have a place on the show. Monroe and Rosalee are almost nowhere to be found, only showing up in scenes long enough to remind the audience that they are characters on the show.

Seriously, if they don't give Nick his Grimm back in the next 1-2 episodes and finally move forward with something, I may very well stop watching and just wait to Hulu-binge on it during the summer when I have nothing else to watch. Nick should have had his Grimm back for at least an episode already, if not more. Going beyond 3-4 has been making it a very tiresome and pointless development.
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This season is quickly starting to push me away. It's just spinning its wheels going nowhere. Here we are, 1/3 of the way through the season, and we've had all of maybe 15 minutes of the interesting new subplot with the Wesen extremists. Nick still doesn't have his Grimm back. Adalind has gone back to being whiny and mostly useless instead of being a hexen-beast on a vengeful tear. Juliette stands around looking lost and hopeless praying for the "normal" days. Hank, is Hank still around? Wu is no longer funny and the number of times he has been cut off in his inquiries is getting stupidly ridiculous. Trubel still doesn't have a place on the show. Monroe and Rosalee are almost nowhere to be found, only showing up in scenes long enough to remind the audience that they are characters on the show.

Seriously, if they don't give Nick his Grimm back in the next 1-2 episodes and finally move forward with something, I may very well stop watching and just wait to Hulu-binge on it during the summer when I have nothing else to watch. Nick should have had his Grimm back for at least an episode already, if not more. Going beyond 3-4 has been making it a very tiresome and pointless development.
Ditto: et al. I record and edit for archiving. I also do a viewing edit with all the garbage cut out. A few have been 30 minutes, some of them have been under 15 minutes and one episode ended up at zero.

I came on board for a Grimm named Nick with his Blutbad ally. Give them back.

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Why would you want to archive a mediocre show like Grimm? I'm having enough trouble trubel watching this the first time; I certainly wouldn't want to subject myself to it a second time.
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Why would you want to archive a mediocre show like Grimm? I'm having enough trouble trubel watching this the first time; I certainly wouldn't want to subject myself to it a second time.
I archive Sci-Fi in general and Grimm marginally falls in that category. I don't always watch what I record. If I do decide to play catch up, a dollar's worth of self recorded and edited DVDs is a lot cheaper than a commercial DVD set.

There have been some pleasant surprises. I liked "Dollhouse" but I could never have watched it on a weekly basis. And, being on FOX, waiting allowed me to view it in the correct order.

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This season is quickly starting to push me away. It's just spinning its wheels going nowhere. Here we are, 1/3 of the way through the season, and we've had all of maybe 15 minutes of the interesting new subplot with the Wesen extremists. Nick still doesn't have his Grimm back. Adalind has gone back to being whiny and mostly useless instead of being a hexen-beast on a vengeful tear. Juliette stands around looking lost and hopeless praying for the "normal" days. Hank, is Hank still around? Wu is no longer funny and the number of times he has been cut off in his inquiries is getting stupidly ridiculous. Trubel still doesn't have a place on the show. Monroe and Rosalee are almost nowhere to be found, only showing up in scenes long enough to remind the audience that they are characters on the show.

Seriously, if they don't give Nick his Grimm back in the next 1-2 episodes and finally move forward with something, I may very well stop watching and just wait to Hulu-binge on it during the summer when I have nothing else to watch. Nick should have had his Grimm back for at least an episode already, if not more. Going beyond 3-4 has been making it a very tiresome and pointless development.
The whole point of the show is to watch Nick and the gang take on Wesen, supposed to be a fun romp and when they took his powers away, they pretty much took away the main cast and their role in the series altogether. We're left with Trubel who was only recently introduced and not fully established to carry the show.
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Things I like about this season:

  1. The captain's hot Hexenbeast mom.
  2. More Adalind
  3. The new "racism subplot" about "mixed" marriage.
  4. Rosalee, Rosalee, Rosalee........
  5. Nick having to face life without being a Grimm. (Should have lasted only four episodes)
  6. New subplot about the war against the Royals......another Wesen faction emerges.


Things I don't like about this season:

  1. Any scene with Trubel in it.
  2. Hank still basically a eunch. (the black guy never gets a girl!)
  3. Too slow re-powering Nick. I watch him be the Grimm........not that androgynous girl.
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Things I don't like about this season:
...Too slow re-powering Nick. I watch him be the Grimm........not that androgynous girl.
I'll second that. I haven't even started watching my recordings of this season yet. And I think I just decided not to bother until I read here Nick get's his powers back. Then we'll start with that episode.

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It's a big mistake 'temporarily' replace the main lead with a character who we only recently met. They should've known better that it would alienate a sizable portion of the audience.
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This season is quickly starting to push me away. It's just spinning its wheels going nowhere. Here we are, 1/3 of the way through the season, and we've had all of maybe 15 minutes of the interesting new subplot with the Wesen extremists. Nick still doesn't have his Grimm back. Adalind has gone back to being whiny and mostly useless instead of being a hexen-beast on a vengeful tear. Juliette stands around looking lost and hopeless praying for the "normal" days. Hank, is Hank still around? Wu is no longer funny and the number of times he has been cut off in his inquiries is getting stupidly ridiculous. Trubel still doesn't have a place on the show. Monroe and Rosalee are almost nowhere to be found, only showing up in scenes long enough to remind the audience that they are characters on the show.

Seriously, if they don't give Nick his Grimm back in the next 1-2 episodes and finally move forward with something, I may very well stop watching and just wait to Hulu-binge on it during the summer when I have nothing else to watch. Nick should have had his Grimm back for at least an episode already, if not more. Going beyond 3-4 has been making it a very tiresome and pointless development.
1/3 of the way through the season? It didn't start until October 24 -- 4 episodes (out of 22). It does feel like a lot of standing around again, much like last season.
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Well geez, they haven't yet had someone take over Nick's body or given him a fatal illness. Lets get through all of the soap opera tropes with this show.
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Well geez, they haven't yet had someone take over Nick's body or given him a fatal illness. Lets get through all of the soap opera tropes with this show.
Here's to hoping we can get credit for "☑ terminal illness" with the dead/zombie thing, but I fear "body swap" is coming and the Nick-Adalind connection thing is just getting started with eye-sight.


(Note that I don't see the previews on Hulu (happily) ... but sometimes my comments probably seem strange to folks who do ...)

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Well geez, they haven't yet had someone take over Nick's body or given him a fatal illness. Lets get through all of the soap opera tropes with this show.
Don't give them any ideas.
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1/3 of the way through the season? It didn't start until October 24 -- 4 episodes (out of 22). It does feel like a lot of standing around again, much like last season.
I thought we were on episode 5 and meant 1/4 of the season. Talk about an epic typing fail on my part.
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Man this show always make me want to sing "all about that bass, no trubel"

(fake) Adalind only wearing a shirt and all smiles, then she converts back, not bad looking anyway, add a few more years..

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I thought we were on episode 5 and meant 1/4 of the season. Talk about an epic typing fail on my part.
But very much like it felt.
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Sometimes I think we as viewers put more thought into the plots than the writers.
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Sometimes I think we as viewers put more thought into the plots than the writers.
Well for starters, we actually pay attention to some of the plots going on.

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But very much like it felt.
It feels even slower than usual.
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