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^^^ Thank you William. This show is a period piece. They don't have the budget of a major motion picture, or an expensive HBO project like 'Deadwood', but I think they've done an amazing job creating a believable world set in the post Civil War period. I love the show, hope it gets renewed, and plan to watch each episode twice next year to make up for Dave's absence. wink.gif

And yes, the 19th century Mormons really were that violent. They essentially wanted to create a separate country for themselves and their odd, new religion. There was a lot of that secessionist kind of thinking, and the violence that went along with it, going on back then.
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I just can't take it any more.

After three seasons of rudderless story telling, the finale was the worst episode I have seen in recent memory. The great photography cannot save this poorly scripted series. There will be no season four for this guy.

Riddle me this:

(1) How many more times is Durrant going to evade the law and take control of the railroad? And can they actually shoot a scene where he isn't chowing down or drinking himself into a stupor.

(2) I never recovered from Lilly's demise. Yet there seems to be a never ending supply of woman for Bohanon's fickle relationships. Lilly, Ruth, Durrant's wife, the Lesbo NY Times lady, and now a Morman teener.

(3) After the Elam - Eva get out of my house scene, I was rooting for the bear all the way. Elam seems to have anger management issues. Or he did before he became a bear appetizer. He is dead to me.

(4) I guess I missed that day in history class where they taught how violent and murderous Morman's really are. Really?

(5) These folks have amazing telescopes. They can see 5 miles away as if it were just 150 yards. Cheyenne must be closer than 5 miles from the camp because people come and go between them in just 15 minutes or so.

(6) I am particularly impressed by the endless supply of milled lumber which appears as if by magic to build windmills and houses. These railroad guys are superb craftsman with advanced engineering degrees. They must store the power tools in the garage.

(7) The housekeeping staff at the cattle lady's hotel deserve special recognition. They repaired missing or destroyed glassware, furniture, doors and windows, just in time for a big meeting with the RR board, in just a few hours it seems.

(8) Let's not forget about the gunfights and amazing marksmanship of these guys. I am pretty sure Bohanon shot 13 of the 9 guys that were pursuing him. I counted 9 guys on horses with masks and 13 guys that were shot in the town. And it only took one shot to take each of them out. Even with a speed loader accounting for 12 rounds of ammunition, Bohanon had an inexhaustible supply of ammunition without reloading. Not to be exceeded by the endless supply of Mormans of course.

(9) The Swede should have his own spinoff series. He really is a fun villain. He has more lives than a Cheshire cat.

(10) We need to pass the hat and teach Anson how to speak lines without mumbling. Honest to God, his accent deepened as the season progressed and even subtitles couldn't help. His articulation is only exceeded by the guy with the stiff upper lip on The Bridge.

(11) Okay, did they really have to break into song when laying rails? Mel Brooks came to mind when Slim Picken's asked for a good old ... work song in the 1976 classic Blazing Saddles.

(12) Call the casting department. The requisition for the chinese laborers who actually built the UP railroad has yet to be filled. It is do-over time.

(13) Kudos to the Morman seamstresses. Bohanon had a really nice wardrobe by the time he was dragged into the courtroom to face the Swede.

I need to leave now. Will one of the 4 of you who are still watching this series, please turn out the lights?

Thank you.

Delightfuly funny.  Liked rooting for the bear and Bohanon shooting 13 of the 9 guys in pursuit.  Ref to Blazing Saddles is pure gold.

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Wow. Can't believe all the Negative Nellie's here. wink.gif

I really enjoyed the finale. Mostly because with all the cliffhangers there's almost certainly going to be another season. And that makes me happy because I really love this show, including this season. Anson Mount so owns this role; I'd watch him read the phone book...err, telegraph records. The different emotions passing across his face during the trial scene and testimony from the girl, conveyed with such nuance and subtlety - man, that was good stuff.

If there is a renewal, Elam's not dead. Somebody was going to survive that epic battle between man & beast, and the beast was clearly dead. Ergo.... Plus, he's a principal character and his arc still has a ways to go. He's got to rescue Bohannan from the clutches of Mormon servitude. And reunite with Eva. The railroad has to get finished. And Durant has to get his just desserts; the bad guys don't typically win in a western. And that includes the dastardly Swede/Norwegian - his will be a deliciously deserved demise. I aim to see it.

So, I'm happy with the finale, and happy with the prospects of another season. The producers must know something. They must have gotten some sign from AMC that they were getting another season or else they would have crafted a different ending - one with no cliffhangers and more closure. Of course, I could be wrong, but 2+ million on a Saturday night might be enough for the network.

As I like to do with most series .. finished a marathon watch this weekend .. I pretty much echo what you've said .. the set up for another season is excellent and to not renew the show now would be a travesty ..
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Good News!!

AMC Renews Hell on Wheels for 'Super-Sized' Season 4

I really enjoyed Seasons 1 and 2. We haven't watched Season 3 yet, but we should get to it soon.
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Wow! That's amazing, fantastic news! smile.gif
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Whoo-hoo! More Bohannan! More Swede (he's too cool a villain to kill off now)! More Elam! More dastardly Mormons! More railroad track! I, too, am a happy camper. smile.gif
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Great news, hopefully they improve on last season though, they need to make a lot of changes.

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Great news, hopefully they improve on last season though, they need to make a lot of changes.

The audience grew with the move to Saturday Night and three more episodes are being added. Not sure AMC views this as a flawed show needing major change
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Whoo-hoo! More Bohannan! More Swede (he's too cool a villain to kill off now)! More Elam! More dastardly Mormons! More railroad track! I, too, am a happy camper. smile.gif

I too am glad it was renewed and thought last season was excellent ..

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I too am glad it was renewed and thought last season was excellent ..

+1. As they've all been. Last season was different in tone and style but I didn't view that as a negative, rather as creative growth.
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The audience grew with the move to Saturday Night and three more episodes are being added. Not sure AMC views this as a flawed show needing major change

Are they adding 3 more episodes for the new season or was that last, I always found the season a little short. and it does need a fix, plus there seems to be a time gap from one show to the next.
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Are they adding 3 more episodes for the new season or was that last, I always found the season a little short. and it does need a fix, plus there seems to be a time gap from one show to the next.
As the link above shows in post #544, the first three seasons were 10 episodes each and season four will have 13 episodes airing next summer.
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Hopefully they keep the same show runner so there is some continuity between seasons
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Based on what I saw on Twitter the last 2 or 3 days, the actress that played Bohanon's wife that he married in the last episode has left the show.
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Based on what I saw on Twitter the last 2 or 3 days, the actress that played Bohanon's wife that he married in the last episode has left the show.

I smell a fatal Indian attack. Maybe the season will open with Bohannan in a state of grievous mourning for her off-season loss.
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I smell a fatal Indian attack. Maybe the season will open with Bohannan in a state of grievous mourning for her off-season loss.
Gee, that sounds familiar... tongue.gif
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It's been so damn long since the last episode I don't even recall the marriage. 


Perhaps I misremembered.

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I think they will be very challenged to get beyond season 4. Season 3 renewal took a while and then the show runner quit etc. It seems like they were barely hanging on by their fingertips.
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I think they will be very challenged to get beyond season 4. Season 3 renewal took a while and then the show runner quit etc. It seems like they were barely hanging on by their fingertips.

As long as AMC does a good wrap up with it, I'm fine with that ..
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MC's "Hell on Wheels" Season 4 to Premiere Saturday, August 2 at 9:00PM ET/PT
The new season of the series will air in two parts with the first 10 episodes running consecutively through Saturday, October 4.

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AMC'S "HELL ON WHEELS" SEASON 4 TO PREMIERE SATURDAY, AUGUST 2 AT 9:00PM ET/PT


New York - May 29, 2014 - AMC's original Western drama "Hell on Wheels," will return for an expanded fourth season of 13 episodes on Saturday, August 2 at 9:00 p.m. ET/PT. The new season of the series, which stars Anson Mount, Colm Meaney and Common, will air in two parts with the first 10 episodes running consecutively through Saturday, October 4, before taking a hiatus during the networks annual FearFest programming, and returning for the final three episodes beginning on Saturday, November 8.

"Hell On Wheels" shifted to the Saturday night slot last year to partner with the network's already successful Western programming on Saturdays, and delivered an average audience of 3.3 million viewers, live plus 3. Additionally, the series nearly doubled (+97%) the network's Saturday prime average and was +152% higher than the total day average. For season four, the network will once again package the series with favorite Western titles, including the films, "The Horse Whisperer," "Tombstone," and "Jeremiah Johnson," and the network premiere of the mini-series, "Comanche Moon."

"We're thrilled to bring 'Hell on Wheels' back for another season. Its success on Saturday night reflects the strength and broad appeal of the show, and we're incredibly excited to share the continuation of this story with the millions of loyal 'Hell On Wheels' fans," said Joel Stillerman, AMC's executive vice president of original programming, production and digital.

Season Three of "Hell On Wheels" ended with Cullen Bohannon (Anson Mount) married to a pregnant Naomi and living in the Mormon fort where the Swede (Christopher Heyerdahl) was impersonating church leader, Bishop Dutson; Thomas "Doc" Durant (Colm Meaney) back in control of the Union Pacific Railroad which had successfully expanded westward to Cheyenne; and Elam (Common), gravely injured by a bear while searching for the missing Cullen. As Season Four unfolds, civilization makes its way west with the railroad, bringing with it men who attempt to do with their pens what rougher men did in seasons past with their guns. Conflict between government and big business, ranchers, homesteaders and the railroad will continue to define the drama as all of those interests compete with one another for control of Cheyenne, Wyoming, the "Magic City of the Plains," and the most important railroad hub in the country. The season will also introduce several new characters including John Campbell (Jake Weber, "Medium," "The Following").

"We're excited about the stories we're telling in season four," said series executive producer and showrunner, John Wirth. "The consequences of the stories we told last year will continue to reverberate throughout the season, and fans can expect to see some shocking events that will not only change the lives of our characters, but the landscape of the series as the railroad continues its relentless march westward."


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