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It's amazing how the Swede keeps getting away with murder.
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have to have the final showdown somewhere in the final season between Bohannon and the Swede. Maybe the Swede finds his family first?
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Finally had a chance to catch up with the last three episodes.

The Dead Rabbits? I guess somebody just watched Gangs of New York and said, "Hey, let's throw that in the show!"

Did anybody count how many montages the second-to-last episode had? I lost track around 50.

Ruth allowing herself to be executed was a stupid plot contrivance to generate drama. There's absolutely no reason at all she would have been charged with murder for what she did.

The finale was pretty much a mess in terms of narrative. Let's just have everyone leave town at the same time so that they can conveniently meet up again somewhere else next season!
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Ruth allowing herself to be executed was a stupid plot contrivance to generate drama. There's absolutely no reason at all she would have been charged with murder for what she did.
I agree that Ruth's decision to be hanged, rather than accepting a reprieve, was ridiculous. I thought Campbell's decision to charge her with murder worked, though. Campbell is a rigid man with a mean streak and bad judgment, so I thought his charging Ruth with murder was consistent with what we know of the man.
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I agree that Ruth's decision to be hanged, rather than accepting a reprieve, was ridiculous. I thought Campbell's decision to charge her with murder worked, though. Campbell is a rigid man with a mean streak and bad judgment, so I thought his charging Ruth with murder was consistent with what we know of the man.
Ruth's decision was ridiculous, but as I stated before, she had been exposed to so much psychological pain in her life that she just decided to end it. If Cullen hadn't been married, I think she would have definitely accepted the pardon. They obviously cared deeply for each other, but Cullen's sense of responsibility to his family precluded the love he had for Ruth and she knew it. I will definitely miss her as I have missed Lily Bell.
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[QUOTE=BoilerJim I will definitely miss her as I have missed Lily Bell.[/QUOTE]
If you indeed miss a television character than the Writer, Director, Showrunner and Actor has done their job.
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Finally had the time to binge watch over the last 2 days and I've got 2.5 episodes left to finish out the season .. stayed away from the thread, naturally ..


What I like about the character Bohannon is the Code he lives by .. lines like "Don't say I did not try and work this out ahead of time" .. "We can settle this like gentlemen, it does not have to end bad" .. almost impart a Super Hero type feel, somewhat like Reese in "Person of Interest" in a way .. and many other protagonists for that matter .. and no matter how often he gets the crap kicked out of him, he rises to overcome ..


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Done ... I have to say the single buffalo scene by the side of the track was great, and that old Dylan song, I Shall Be Released was a fitting ending song ...
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Just finished up the season as well -- too much stuff backlogged in front of it. First in, first out.

Really enjoyed the season. I like how they're going to have Cullen work for Durant's rival, an interesting twist for the final season but one which takes Bohannon away from the Central Pacific and "Hell on Wheels". Perhaps the east-bound railroad has a similar camp following, only composed mainly of Chinese (and now, Mormons)...? But I suppose it makes sense, in a way. Cullen has lost everyone he cared about who was previously associated with the railroad. But he and Durant will always have Cheyenne.

One of the things I like best about this show is how it takes you places you don't expect. Never anticipated the return of Elam, nor his demise at Cullen's hand. Lessor shows would have shown him snapping out of it at the last minute, or Ruth having a last minute change of heart about her fate. I enjoyed both of the episodes devoted to Elam, and liked how they cryptically foretold his fate when Eva mentioned at the beginning of the season how she felt "his spirit leave" (not that he had died). Nice work.

Love how the Swede has managed to survive, and how he and Cullen will be on a fitting collision course next season. Interesting how they paint Brigham Young as an ambitious and ruthless businessman, with the strategic morality required of a CEO running such a vast and growing empire based largely on cult of personality.

Loved how the production department builds these period machines as well. The steam shovel was a marvel, and even the old printing press looked authentic (probably borrowed it from a museum or something). The season began with the sinking of a locomotive into a semi-frozen lake. Didn't look like CGI. Might have been a model. Whatever, it was convincing. As is the portrayal of the brutal reality of the old west. Glad we get another season, but like others, don't see why they need to split it up over two years. Maybe AMC's original production department is having a tough time coming up with new series ideas.

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Just finished up the season as well -- too much stuff backlogged in front of it. First in, first out.

Really enjoyed the season. I like how they're going to have Cullen work for Durant's rival, an interesting twist for the final season but one which takes Bohannon away from the Central Pacific and "Hell on Wheels". Perhaps the east-bound railroad has a similar camp following, only composed mainly of Chinese (and now, Mormons)...? But I suppose it makes sense, in a way. Cullen has lost everyone he cared about who was previously associated with the railroad. But he and Durant will always have Cheyenne.

One of the things I like best about this show is how it takes you places you don't expect. Never anticipated the return of Elam, nor his demise at Cullen's hand. Lessor shows would have shown him snapping out of it at the last minute, or Ruth having a last minute change of heart about her fate. I enjoyed both of the episodes devoted to Elam, and liked out they cryptically foretold his fate when Eva mentioned at the beginning of the season how she felt "his spirit leave" (not that he had died). Nice work.

Love how the Swede has managed to survive, and how he and Cullen will be on a fitting collision course next season. interesting how they proclaim Brigham Young as an ambitious businessman, with the strategic morality required of a CEO running such a vast and growing empire based largely on cult of personality.

Loved how the production department builds these period machines as well. The steam shovel was a marvel, and even the old printing press looked authentic (probably borrowed it from a museum or something). The season began with the sinking of a locomotive into a semi-frozen lake. Didn't look like CGI. Might have been a model. Whatever, it was convincing. As is the portrayal of the brutal reality of the old west. Glad we get another season, but like others, don't see why they need to split it up over two years. Maybe AMC's original production department is having a tough time coming up with new series ideas.
Very well summarized. Though I watched these episodes the night they aired, it was nice being reminded of what makes this show so great, even if I don't always like the outcomes (Elam and Ruth).
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Hell on Wheels should receive an award for best cinematography.
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Arch, great summation ..

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The season began with the sinking of a locomotive into a semi-frozen lake. Didn't look like CGI. Might have been a model. Whatever, it was convincing.
Oh, that very much looked like CGI to me.

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Geez .. they are dragging out these last few episodes into 2016?!


AMC's "Hell on Wheels" Season 5 to Premiere Saturday, July 18 at 9:00PM ET/PT
Seven new episodes will air this summer, with the final seven episodes of the series following in 2016.




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AMC'S "HELL ON WHEELS" SEASON 5 TO PREMIERE SATURDAY, JULY 18 AT 9:00PM ET/PT

Fifth and Final Season of AMC's Saturday Night Mainstay Will Explore the Battle between the Central Pacific and Union Pacific Railroads

NEW YORK, NY - May 28, 2015 - AMC's Western drama "Hell on Wheels" will return for the first half of its fifth and final season on Saturday, July 18 at 9:00 p.m. ET/PT. Seven new episodes will air this summer, with the final seven episodes of the series following in 2016...."


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That was announced when the season 5 renewal was announced in the fall
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Noticed on my DVR schedule last night that HOW is back this Saturday 7/18
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It's back this week!
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I just rewatched Season 4 on Netflix and am really looking forward to the show's fifth and final season.
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Glad to see it once again .. I read somewhere that Season 5 is split 7 episodes now and 7 episodes next year .. ??

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Glad to see it once again .. I read somewhere that Season 5 is split 7 episodes now and 7 episodes next year .. ??
I think that's right. That's what I saw too.
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Glad to see it once again .. I read somewhere that Season 5 is split 7 episodes now and 7 episodes next year .. ??
They're doing that to everything now, especially when a critically acclaimed show is going out.

OTOH, at least we get 14 more episodes! This show has been consistently good and criminally underrated from day 1. Looking forward to seeing Cullen Bohanan's story conclude. It's been a hell of a ride.
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They're doing that to everything now, especially when a critically acclaimed show is going out.

OTOH, at least we get 14 more episodes! This show has been consistently good and criminally underrated from day 1. Looking forward to seeing Cullen Bohanan's story conclude. It's been a hell of a ride.
Yeah, the split season trend is crap, IMO, but what can you do .. ??

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For some reason I thought last "season" was the first half of the final season (especially with the killing off of a couple of regulars). I'm glad to hear it's not. I feel like I'm getting a bonus season.
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The actress who played "Lily Bell" is now in Astronaut's Wives Club and it drove me nuts until I figured out who it was.
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This season is off to a good start. I like how they've taken us from the world of the prairie, relationships/confrontations with Native Americans, and the issue of former slaves trying to eek out an existence to the California side and the exploitation of cheap Chinese labor and corporate espionage.

If I had one gripe, as far as we can see in this first episode, Cullen seems a little too noble and not really struggling with demons anymore. I guess the character was always growing, but now he's a little more flat. Maybe that will change as the railroad competition heats up along with his longstanding feuds with the Swede and Durant. Perhaps he'll develop a win-at-all costs approach to finishing the railroad and wrestle with the possibly of sacrificing the search for his family in favor of the railroad.
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We just loved the premiere and the whole Chinese drug/sex/etc. lord story line is going to be good. My only complaint is that when the swede is on the screen I groan and can't wait for it to be over. Just don't like his character anymore, to played out.

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The Swede should have been killed of in the first or at worst the second season. He is like an anvil tied to the "neck" of the show.
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The Swede should have been killed of in the first or at worst the second season. He is like an anvil tied to the "neck" of the show.
Couldn't disagree more. Swede is the perfect antagonist to Cullen. The evil twin cut from the same cloth. Boiled down, Bohannon has committed the same atrocities as Gunderson. Choking Lilly Bell to death was murder. Killing the Army dude whom Bohannon misidentified as being part of his wife and child's demise is just as much a murder. They are similar human beings with only one of them looking for redemption.
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