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I'm a sucker for any Count of Monte Cristo-esque revenge story. That's why I'm loving "Revenge" and loving this show.

The fact that the lead bears more than a slight resemblance to Jim Caviezel makes it even easier to quickly get invested in his plan for revenge.

This is one of those shows that you get so into when watching that the hour flies by in what seems like 20 minutes.

I'm with you! Any movie that involves "revenge" draws me in like a moth to the flame. And the slower it's executed the better.

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I finally got around to watching the first 3 episodes,really good stuffcan't wait for more.

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I can't wait for more either. Tonight!!
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I just finished watching tonight's episode...the best one so far, IMHO!

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Great episode indeed.

It was nice to see Elam "connect" with Eva. I think that's the working-lady with the chin tattoo. She was nice to him as well. Good scene

Cullen was drunk towards the end
He's always so heroic.

What was The Swede cleaning during that slow scene? He was cleaning blood? From whom?

It was nice that Mrs. Bell wanted to give the reward payout to Joseph.
She's pretty after a good bath. Ha
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^^^^

I agree with you regarding Elam and Eva; there is definite *chemistry* between them. I suspect there will be a price to pay for their evolving relationship in upcoming episodes.

I was glad to see The Swede back in form again; I'm waiting to see him in action (with a gun...or perhaps he's got some Scandinavian "martial arts" up his Matrix sleeve).

All the other characters are being developed nicely too. This, along with just the right amount of action, has made me a Happy Camper.

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All the other characters are being developed nicely too. This, along with just the right amount of action, has made me a Happy Camper.

I don't know about the woman. I wish her character would make a move to declare her motive by withholding those maps, because her character I find extremely dull to the point of annoying.

Everyone else seems to be getting some good character space in the show however and I was quite surprised by the distinct lack of Anson Mount in the last episode. The show is definitely becoming an ensemble piece and not just one dude out for blood. Which is probably a good thing because if he's stuck at the railroad being a foreman he isn't going to have opportunity to travel the country looking for the killers.


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I don't know about the woman. I wish her character would make a move to declare her motive by withholding those maps, because her character I find extremely dull to the point of annoying.

Everyone else seems to be getting some good character space in the show however and I was quite surprised by the distinct lack of Anson Mount in the last episode. The show is definitely becoming an ensemble piece and not just one dude out for blood. Which is probably a good thing because if he's stuck at the railroad being a foreman he isn't going to have opportunity to travel the country looking for the killers.

You're right about Mrs. Bell. Perhaps her being *reserved* (that's the word I would use in lieu of *dull*) is due to the fact that she's a good-looking woman in a very "Wild West" and with her husband dead she's not quite sure how to present herself. (She may be withholding the maps for the same reason she's withholding her feelings; she just doesn't know what her future holds and she doesn't want to be taken advantage of.)

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Just watched the last episode. I still like it, but it is losing some of its appeal. I guess I just hate getting hit over the head by the black guys and the evil white guys.

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Just watched the last episode. I still like it, but it is losing some of its appeal. I guess I just hate getting hit over the head by the black guys and the evil white guys.

I'd say it is trying to historically accurate. After all, I'm not sure that history isn't pretty close to the same today.....

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I continue to enjoy the show and thought the latest episode was the best yet. Anson Mount has been showing me something. Bohannan is an emotional train wreck (sorry, couldn't resist). His many problems in Hell on Wheels, coupled with his frustration over narrowly missing catching up with the Sergeant, have led to ever more drinking and reckless behavior. Mount has done a good job of portraying Bohannan as both scary and sympathetic.

I particularly enjoyed the dinner scene with Mrs. Bell on Durant's private car. The game of cat and mouse over just what Mrs. Bell knew of the reasons her husband had withheld his survey of the mountains was fascinating. There is a lot more going on in Mrs. Bell's beautiful head than we have seen so far, I think. Do we know where she has hidden the survey maps?
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Just watched the last episode. I still like it, but it is losing some of its appeal. I guess I just hate getting hit over the head by the black guys and the evil white guys.

+1, we have certainly been told this story before. The west-coast rail spur employed hoards of Chinese slaves, which might make a more interesting story. But so far this show hasn't produced anything original.
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I continue to enjoy the show and thought the latest episode was the best yet. Anson Mount has been showing me something. Bohannan is an emotional train wreck (sorry, couldn't resist). His many problems in Hell on Wheels, coupled with his frustration over narrowly missing catching up with the Sergeant, have led to ever more drinking and reckless behavior. Mount has done a good job of portraying Bohannan as both scary and sympathetic.

I particularly enjoyed the dinner scene with Mrs. Bell on Durant's private car. The game of cat and mouse over just what Mrs. Bell knew of the reasons her husband had withheld his survey of the mountains was fascinating. There is a lot more going on in Mrs. Bell's beautiful head than we have seen so far, I think. Do we know where she has hidden the survey maps?

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Finally saw the latest episode. The weakest of them all so far for me. My biggest complaint is would you really chase someone, then see a figure so far in the distance you can't tell what it is, even with a spy glass so you start shooting at that massive range. Really? Wouldn't you continue to ride to get as close as you could before you start shooting and praying you hit, that was an insane distance for the rifles back then. He would of rode and gotten as close as he could before attacking, didn't buy that momment at all.

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Finally saw the latest episode. The weakest of them all so far for me. My biggest complaint is would you really chase someone, then see a figure so far in the distance you can't tell what it is, even with a spy glass so you start shooting at that massive range. Really? Wouldn't you continue to ride to get as close as you could before you start shooting and praying you hit, that was an insane distance for the rifles back then. He would of rode and gotten as close as he could before attacking, didn't buy that momment at all.

I deleted my DVR recording already, so I can't go back to check this out, but if memory serves me right the Sergeant was right next to some woods, which he was about to enter. He had to take the shot (though it was a LONG SHOT....sorry, couldn't resist) while he had some kind of a chance, though it was admittedly a slim one.

The REST of the episode had so much going on (by way of character development) that I feel sorry for you if you were disappointed in the WHOLE episode based on a fleeting few seconds in a short scene.

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The sergeant shot back with a rifle and hit the horse. The writers are saying something is possible here...

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The sergeant shot back with a rifle and hit the horse. The writers are saying something is possible here...

Yes, good point! And I guess they're also telling us he's a better shot than Bohannan.

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I deleted my DVR recording already, so I can't go back to check this out, but if memory serves me right the Sergeant was right next to some woods, which he was about to enter. He had to take the shot (though it was a LONG SHOT....sorry, couldn't resist) while he had some kind of a chance, though it was admittedly a slim one.

The REST of the episode had so much going on (by way of character development) that I feel sorry for you if you were disappointed in the WHOLE episode based on a fleeting few seconds in a short scene.

It looked like a clump of trees, not an expansive forest someone could get lost in.

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The sergeant shot back with a rifle and hit the horse. The writers are saying something is possible here...

Sure, it was possible but his odds go through the roof if he would of drove his horse closer and engaged at a respectable range, not taking pot shots and hoping something hits. Especially if he is that driven to kill this guy, you would ride up to him to make sure it happens. So many things he could of done to get better odds at the shot then shooting at a dot that is barely visible even in a spy glass.

Oh well, still an awesome show.

Oh, did they explain what caused the fire on the black powder kegs? Why were they suddenly on fire? Did I miss something?

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It's what happens between the main plot points, those few seconds so to speak, that is the difference between a great and so-so show. I haven't seen the latest yet, but I'm still trying to recover from the wounded girl nodding off on log between Indians bedding down for the night and a river. Killing white folks is hard work, so I assume they might be thirsty, and have the sense to make camp near water. Unless I missed something, they either didn't replenish their bodies and supply, or they managed to walk right by her and not see her. Bad Indian, bad Indian.

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It looked like a clump of trees, not an expansive forest someone could get lost in.

I saw the episode again last night and that was a pretty big "clump of trees." Granted, it wasn't a "forest," but it was large enough to evade someone.

I'm looking forward to tonight's episode. Methinks we're in for some kind of twist, or at least a development we didn't see coming.

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Just watched the last episode. I still like it, but it is losing some of its appeal. I guess I just hate getting hit over the head by the black guys and the evil white guys.

Should they rewrite history.....NO.

Great show, I love that's its historically accurate with the racism, sexism, classism and themes of genocide, greed and sex.

As a Historian, I would not glorify past injustices; but we should all learn from the mistakes of the past.
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Anson Mount has been showing me something. Bohannan is an emotional train wreck (sorry, couldn't resist). Mount has done a good job of portraying Bohannan as both scary and sympathetic.

+1, great and convincing acting.
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Oh, did they explain what caused the fire on the black powder kegs? Why were they suddenly on fire? Did I miss something?

No, its unclear as to how the powder ignited and blew up.

Hopefully, we'll get some explaination tonight.
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Should they rewrite history.....NO.

Great show, I love that's its historically accurate with the racism, sexism, classism and themes of genocide, greed and sex.

As a Historian, I would not glorify past injustices; but we should all learn from the mistakes of the past.

Did I ask for a rewrite of history? I just don't want to be hit over the head with evil master white man every other minute.

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Did I ask for a rewrite of history? I just don't want to be hit over the head with evil master white man every other minute.

Unfortunately, "evil master white man" was literaly hitting people over the head.

Its the one of the reasons we had the Civil War.

Lucky for us its just a "TV Show" for millions of people over hundreds of years this was their reality.

I prefer historical accuracy, no matter how uncomfortable to some (not me).

With all due respect..I am not seeking an argument..I understand your perspective, you have a right to it.

Bottom line: I enjoy all aspects of this excellent show.
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Unfortunately, "evil master white man" was literaly hitting people over the head.

Its the one of the reasons we had the Civil War.

Lucky for us its just a "TV Show" for millions of people over hundreds of years this was their reality.

I prefer historical accuracy, no matter how uncomfortable to some (not me).

With all due respect..I am not seeking an argument..I understand your perspective, you have a right to it.

Bottom line: I enjoy all aspects of this excellent show.

Same here, good one tonight so far...
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There are a lot of Western cliches and in this series and it isn't very original (hello, Little Big Man) but at least the show is doing it well. I would really have liked the Cheyenne scenes to be in native language and subtitled for some added authenticity. I find it a bit distracting hearing English.


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Good episode tonight.
I'm glad nobody was killed or seriously injured at the fight.

What did they put into his eyes? Salt and pepper?
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No, its unclear as to how the powder ignited and blew up.

Hopefully, we'll get some explaination tonight.

Powder in the day was pretty unstable. Stories of explosions are many and varied. In mining camps and elsewhere, people who specialized were called "powder monkeys" and had a very short life span.
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