Originally Posted by gpflepsen
Indy car drivers are driving a more inappropriate race car package.
The INDY car package, which is a manufactured spec racer, presents all the wrong attributes to let the best drivers come out on top. They drive with so much downforce to encourage the pack racing, and "my grandmother could drive them". Not my words, but JPM's. This has all but removed the driver skill from the equation. JMHO.
Wow, I disagree strongly.
Examine the difference between Indy500 qualifying, and Nascar qualifying at Daytona; ... whereby Castro-Neves trims his car out so close to the razor's edge, that laying down a 4 lap pole attempt, trimming the car on every straightaway w/on-board controls, is unquestionably a daredevil feat.
Then, compare Danica showing up for her pole run in last Saturday's race,.... Her crew chief's instructions; "Mash it, don't lift,...stay high and build your revs up good prior to taking the green, then from that point keep it tight on the bottom but let it come off the bottom as you transition to the flats. Have fun, cause this thing is slick as can be and handles real good down the straightaway."
Danica; "handles real good down the straightaway? huh?"
Crew Chief; bringing the empty pop bottle up to his mouth to spit the dip juice into the bottle,...so he can talk, "it's the the motor,...it's the best one we've got"
Danica; "motor?, ... the engine?"
Now, back to your downforce point, you're exactly right, they have too much downforce. combining that with the high banked tracks is scary stuff. They went with it thru the 90's until today, merely for the spectacle, as they needed the appeal it brought. You reap what you sow, sadly.
If the cars were easy to drive, clearly they'd have a bigger mix of winners. I love the road courses, in open wheel and Cup. They're quite the equalizer, as is rain (Senna). I really dig the road course Cup stuff, those are the only races that I watch every second of every lap. My preference. The Nationwide road course races the last few years have been the most exciting races in any form, anywhere in the world, IMO. I'd love to see a Cup road course race at Indy. Superb facility,..wow that'd be fun.
My fondest memories of the 60's-70's, is USAC stock cars on dirt ovals, and on road courses. Parnelli Jones, Dan Gurney, Al Unser, A.J. Foyt, Mario Andretti, Bobby Unser in a Superbird! Killer, killer stuff. They'd run dirt, road course, big ovals,...man my best racing memories. Open face helmets, goggles and bandannas around their face.
Damn, goosebumps as I type.