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post #241 of 248 Old 03-01-2012, 01:31 PM
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...after talking to a couple of the bigg-time music mixers .......the working theory that they have is .........that the Vocals in the center channel ....(( when mixed across L/C/R equalley )) IS causing *SOME* of this weird phasing ..thing we are hearing ....uhmm obviously IN the 2.0 'fold-down' ONLY {{ it is 'spooking' the the hard-coded DD chip ...in all tuner-s / STB's }} ..therefore ...they have backed off w/ vocals in the center channel

. . as in those guys are NOTT happey about THAT 2.0 'fold-down' process (( NOTT to mention ..THAT mixing shows ONLY in 5.1 ...forces the 2.0 'fold-down' ..as most americans listen to these shows in 2.0 ))


..& tweaking the meta-data - - live ...uhmm on-the-fly .......causes more trouble than its worth

..juss what i am hearing . . .

Sorry to drag up an old thread, but where can I get an app that turns English into this?
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Sorry to drag up an old thread, but where can I get an app that turns English into this?

You can't.

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You have no idea what you're talking about. Not to mention that has nothing to do with this thread. Stop spamming us please. Thank you.

So, let's see, you bring up a 4 month old post and call that poster out for spamming. There hasn't been a post here for 3 months. Who's blacker, the pot or the kettle..... wink.gif

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post #245 of 248 Old 07-25-2012, 01:06 PM
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Is anyone else hearing a tinny resonance underneath the audio? I'm watching on WABC-DT and I have checked both OTA and Time Warner Cable. Hearing the same thing on both.


. ok soooo ..here-s the reason for the audio weird-ness on the Academy Awards Show .....it was a Ross Encoder used to watermark (( READ: track )) ...end users & their devices


http://www.rossvideo.com/terminal-equipment/nielsen/





<< Active / Passive (A/P) Audience Measurement

In 2005, the Nielsen Company introduced the Active/Passive Audience Measurement system designed for the purpose of measuring new forms of media distribution, multi-platform content, and particularly DTV and DVR-based time shifted viewing. The A/P measurement system utilizes multiple identification engines to credit television tuning, including advanced audio encoding or watermarking (embedded within the audio spectrum), audio signatures or fingerprints which require a sample compared against a reference, and video watermarking.
Multi-Level Encoding

Nielsen’s patented audio watermarking technology provides the capability to track content distribution from its origin to its final destination. This is accomplished through the insertion of a unique Program Content SID (Source Identification Code) at the broadcast network or national syndicator distribution center and insertion of a Final Distributor SID at a local broadcast station, local cable origination or national cable network distribution center . The SID is a second-by-second serial number used by Nielsen and the television industry to uniquely identify program content to ensure proper crediting of viewing. Both Program Content and Final Distributor codes co-exist, resulting in audio content that is multi-level watermarked. Nielsen’s household meters detect and decode these watermarks to identify viewership.

Additionally, the patented Automated Measurement of Lineups (AMOL) technology is inserted in the VBI portion of the video and employs multi-level tracking capabilities similar to its audio counterpart.
Nielsen's Audio Encoding Technique

The NAVE II embeds a very small amount of audio energy in louder portions of the audio to ensure the non-audibility of the code. This process has been refined over several years using Nielsen and outside testing to ensure audio quality is maintained. The system has been tested through AC-3 and MPEG-2 compression to ensure survival. >>
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. ok soooo ..here-s the reason for the audio weird-ness on the Academy Awards Show .....it was a Ross Encoder used to watermark (( READ: track )) ...end users & their devices
http://www.rossvideo.com/terminal-equipment/nielsen/

I seriously doubt that was the issue, especially since I was listening to the non-network feed, i.e., before being encoded in New York.
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Boy is that outdated. VBI doesn't exist with digital video and there are no more SD network feeds.

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I seriously doubt that was the issue, especially since I was listening to the non-network feed, i.e., before being encoded in New York.

Boy is that outdated. VBI doesn't exist with digital video and there are no more SD network feeds.


hmm ok .....thanks for the info ......


. . well i'm juss say-in ..that ABC engineering & therefore ABC corporate heads . . along w/ all the producers & production guy-s on the Academy Awards Show ..believe this was the problem(S) . . .


. . i guess time . . will tell
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Hmm - there was an issue with 5.1 audio strangeness in the UK a while back. It was caused by a Dolby Digital Encoder in the playout area getting confused by Metadata embedded in the Dolby E signal feeding it apparently. (Horrifically a 5.1 signal got flagged as a 1.0 centre channel only signal...)

I wonder if there is some VANC metadata that got corrupted in an HD-SDI signal somewhere? (And this got translated as "VBI" - as VANC has kind of replaced VBI?)
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