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post #1651 of 1673 Old 04-23-2015, 08:06 PM
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I'm sure the Olicity fangirls exploded in a chorus of "squeeeeeeee" during this episode but it just got a big fat raspberry from me. The word "Moonlighting" also flashed before my eyes too.

All the Felicity woe went on far too long. Long enough for this to become the worst episode of the season for me. And she made Ray sad too. Boooo!

Thea coming back instantly and then regaining her memories was anticlimactic. If anything the dramatic focus should have been on ressurrecting her, not the on/off/on/off romance stuff.

I think the only highpoints for me were the stuntman food cart vendor kicking ass, the speech to Diggle and the last couple of minutes of Ollie dressed in a shadow suit. Unfortunately for him that probably means he has lost all his skill now, because even Felicity can take out a League uniformed flunky with a stick. The rest just walk into the path of deadly weapons.

Also worth noting a fine example of TV bullets. On TV superhero shows bullets cannot penetrate anything. Except bulletproof vests. They bounce off glass, cars, barrels ... but go right through any body armor worn by a bad guy.


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Yeaaaaaaaah, that moment where four guys with semi automatics were firing from a truck at a car 5 ft behind them and didn't hit Ollie who was climbing over.... Just gotta shrug those off as comic action.
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I keep trying to get into this show, keeping in mind that it is about superheroes, but the plots and the overall tone just bores me. In this past episode, the heroes go into the lair of the villain to save Thea. Not to mention the fact that the villain is that one that mortally wounded her. Major drama and suspense, right? No, it's all just hushed tones, false bravado, a few stormtrooper fight scenes, and a cheesy hallmark moment.


I keep hoping it gets better.
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I wonder if I saw an Arrow episode, or some soap on the Oxygen channel.
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I spent half the episode playing a handheld video game -- never a good sign as usually I give shows I'm into my full undivided attention. Heck, I was more into watching my recording of iZombie that same night.
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Better than last week. But that wouldn't be hard. Maybe that was just because of all the fight scenes and the fact the beginning was almost Batman Begins verbatim. Katie Cassidy's stunt double is about as convincing as Gellar's on Buffy though!

I can't decide if the wedding was a hilariously bad idea or a plausible story point. At least Batman didn't marry Nyssa in Batman Begins, which unlike the League destroying Starling was something that felt very, very familiar. At least the Hong Kong flashbacks eventually served a point.

Is Shrieve supposed to be Ra's old friend? I honestly wasn't paying much attention to figure out if those dots are meant to be connected to the present.

In TV bullet observations it was nice to see some CGI holes on cars this week. Handgun bullets do more damage to cars than rifle bullets obviously.

The League guys really need to spend some of their budget buying at least a few bulletproof vests just for meetings though. That body armor they have is useless against Diggle and his wife.


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Now that Akio is dead, please tell me that the flashback crutch is dead, too. I've come to dread the scene fades in this show that herald further romps back into boring and almost totally irrelevant past events.
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Now that Akio is dead, please tell me that the flashback crutch is dead, too. I've come to dread the scene fades in this show that herald further romps back into boring and almost totally irrelevant past events.
I wish, it's been long since it was relevant, nowadays it's just time filler that adds nothing to the main story or characters anymore.
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The flash backs used to be good at filling in some backstory, but this season, they have just dragged on. The point of this seasons flash back could have been explained in much more concisely, as could most of this season. It has had a few good moments, but the story seems to be dragging on this season. They have almost lost me as a viewer. Hope they wrap things up well, or this could be my last season with this show.
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I think they originally wanted this season's Hong Kong flashbacks as heavy on gun action since Arrow isn't killing people like he used to in the present day. Did anyone care what happened to that kid by the end? I really thought Oliver was going to learn sword skills or something during his time in Hong Kong. Instead he was stuck inside a dingy apartment most of the season and the US government was forcing him to stop some super bio-weapon.
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I think they originally wanted this season's Hong Kong flashbacks as heavy on gun action since Arrow isn't killing people like he used to in the present day. Did anyone care what happened to that kid by the end? I really thought Oliver was going to learn sword skills or something during his time in Hong Kong. Instead he was stuck inside a dingy apartment most of the season and the US government was forcing him to stop some super bio-weapon.
Wasn't it the government that actually was infecting people? All those soldiers that Ollie and Maseo dispatched, blew up their truck with the virus, etc.? To be honest, I'm not sure what the heck is going on with the flashbacks anymore.
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The flashbacks still add to the plot and give backstory... now you might not like the story, but they are hardly useless. I can see if you don't like the story being told... but they are telling a story.

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The flashbacks still add to the plot and give backstory... now you might not like the story, but they are hardly useless. I can see if you don't like the story being told... but they are telling a story.
As long as they show more of Shadoe's twin sister, I'm OK with the flashbacks.

It would be interesting to go back and watch Oliver's first encounters with Amanda Waller after he returned to Starling City and became the Arrow. Since we now know there's so much history between them, I wonder if the writer's had anticipated that and showed any indication of something between them under the surface during those interactions.
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The flash backs used to be good at filling in some backstory, but this season, they have just dragged on. The point of this seasons flash back could have been explained in much more concisely, as could most of this season. It has had a few good moments, but the story seems to be dragging on this season. They have almost lost me as a viewer. Hope they wrap things up well, or this could be my last season with this show.
Exactly, once we already had the set up for Oliver becoming the Arrow/setting up characters like Deathstroke and Sara out of the way, it became redundant, it doesn't add anything important anymore and we can already figure out the rest since we've already know what pretty much happens in present day.
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Wasn't it the government that actually was infecting people? All those soldiers that Ollie and Maseo dispatched, blew up their truck with the virus, etc.? To be honest, I'm not sure what the heck is going on with the flashbacks anymore.
Government or the other League run by Ra's old friend in army uniforms?


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By the way, the flashback in this week's episode wasn't totally irrelevant. It was necessary to show the conclusion of the backstory of the Alpha-Omega weapon that was in Nyssa's sword and which Oliver now needs to use against Starling City. I guess now we'll get the backstory as to how Nyssa got a hold of it.
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As long as they show more of Shadoe's twin sister, I'm OK with the flashbacks.

It would be interesting to go back and watch Oliver's first encounters with Amanda Waller after he returned to Starling City and became the Arrow. Since we now know there's so much history between them, I wonder if the writer's had anticipated that and showed any indication of something between them under the surface during those interactions.
Now that you mention it, I remember a scene when Arrow infiltrated some base and ran into her. She asked him if he was there to kill her, but he was there about something else...might've needed some info from ARGUS. They made it very clear that she was afraid he was there for revenge--after that, I believe the Hong Kong flashbacks started. I just assumed she was going to be the one to take him back to the island and leave him there to die or something.
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I still remember the old Green Arrow from the joint Lantern days on back. Except for the Speedy drug problem issues he was a fun character, always cracking jokes an laughing.

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I used to like this show,but it has turned into an absolute train wreck. For the love of god,everyone on the show trains to be an assassin. Felicity is getting old really fast. Laurel as the black canary is laughable! Thea training with her dad is laughable! The flashbacks are not needed anymore...at all! The whole Ra's al ghul thing is ridiculous! Honestly,the writers better look at the direction they are taking the show,cause its not good. Also,isn't Ra's stationed in Tibet? How are they getting back to Starling city so fast. The show and characters act like Tibet is 20 mins away. I'm sorry,this show is losing me fast. Probably fortunate that there are only a couple episodes left.. Its really too bad..
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In a fictional world where Oliver was an expert in all things fighting in a couple of years on the island... I'm not sure why it's a stretch to believe anyone else in that world can't similarly train?

These kinds of tropes exist with most super-heroes... the "what are the odds" questions will always be asked, but the thing is... we aren't seeing the whole fictional world, we are only seeing the people to whom this stuff happens... so what are the odds that people in a close-circle of Oliver's wouldn't also end up training to fight if they keep hanging around him and being in danger? You could argue it would be less realistic NOT to train to fight if you're going to have ninjas and crazy people coming after you all the time!

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Wow talk about a spoiler, did anyone see the previews of next weeks Flash???
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^ Yeah, I saw that, and screamed a little on the inside.

Obviously, Syfy promo department veterans must have taken over the CW's department.

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Wow talk about a spoiler, did anyone see the previews of next weeks Flash???
Yes but its not like that we didn't know that has to happen anyhow. Its just a matter of how fast it happens and apparently it happens fast.

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