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post #721 of 823 Old 10-16-2015, 12:50 PM
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Oh well. Not too surprising.

Of good note, they mentioned something with Hyperion is in the works. Always wondered why that hasn't been made into a TV series or set of movies.

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^^^ Have you read it? Even as a "Lord of the Rings" or "Dune"-sized epic, it's a big fish to fry. Particularly for a cable channel that's notoriously penny-pinching tight with the budgets.
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^^^ Have you read it? Even as a "Lord of the Rings" or "Dune"-sized epic, it's a big fish to fry. Particularly for a cable channel that's notoriously penny-pinching tight with the budgets.
It's safe to assume that if I mention a sci-fi/fantasy book, I've read it. And if it's a decent sci-fi/fantasy book that someone else mentions, good bet I've probably read it, too

Maybe Syfy will be inspired by HBO and Game of Thrones? I'm hopeful

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Uh oh. Don't tell Brother Oink about this. He'll go into official Julie Benz mourning mode for weeks. It could cause a severe shortage of bourbon on the west coast.
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It was usually fun while it lasted. At least it ended like a series finale.


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Well, at least they had an opportunity to end it well.


Now, I need to find out where Julie Benz will be hanging her...uhhh...hat.
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They must have known for a long time even if we didn't. That was a series finale if I ever saw one. Which is fine. The show had pretty much run out of steam anyways.
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First Dominion and now this. The chopping block at Syfy is getting too much work. It was a fun ride while it lasted.

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Not a good year for sci-fi series...

Falling Skies... gone!
Helix... gone!
Continuum... gone!
Dominion... gone!
Defiance... gone!

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First Dominion and now this. The chopping block at Syfy is getting too much work. It was a fun ride while it lasted.
Dominion was sputtering and Defiance ran out of ideas....RIP.
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^ Defiance ran out of ideas after season one... but it was still (mostly) fun to watch.

IMO- Dominion was getting better as it progressed.
They only really explored two of the archangels- there were another five remaining. There was still plenty of storytelling left in the tank for future episodes, shame it ended when it did.
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bummer, but I though so after the seasons last episode
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Not a good year for sci-fi series...

Falling Skies... gone!
Helix... gone!
Continuum... gone!
Dominion... gone!
Defiance... gone!
Haven is also finishing. Defiance had become a reliable show. It had its ups and downs but I liked the characters for the most part.
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Damn, Helix too!?!? I liked it. So many shows I watched get cancelled🏼


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Not too surprising. Disappointing but not surprising.

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On the bright side, this year sci-fi fans got:
Dark Matter
Killjoys
12 Monkeys
So it's not all bad.
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12 monkeys is pretty good, I haven't seen the others
Although not original, Dark Matter is pretty good.
I enjoy the characters quite a bit and one is a real hottie.
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On the bright side, this year sci-fi fans got:
Dark Matter
Killjoys
12 Monkeys
So it's not all bad.
You can add Z Nation to those plus these new shows:
Hunters
The Magicians
The Expanse
Ghost Brigades
Wynonna Earp

and in development:
Gateway, Blood Drive, Incorporated, and 51st State.
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Read a report which says that Defiance is not canceled due to its rating which as per Syfy is in its top 5. Its got cancelled due to the cost of producing this show and expensive effects.


Also shows the side effects of signing exclusive streaming deals. If Syfy had signed on Netflix also for this show...maybe it could have got much bigger fan following.
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Its got cancelled due to the cost of producing this show and expensive effects.
Not surprising.
It looks expensive (for a SyFy show).
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If a good number of folks are consistently watching the show, the budget will be there to produce .. unfortunately, "Defiance" just never seemed to find it's footing .. sad, really .. people don't know what they were missing .. I'd say that I would hope Netflix might pick it up, but that's a long shot .. I guess the good news is, we got at least a bit more than we did with "Firefly" ..

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For a show that makes it past 3 seasons, the issue becomes dealing with the increase in salaries for the top production personel and cast. If those inflate the costs beyond what the network's license fee is, or what the studio is willing to cover, then the show can be ended regardless of how much better it's ratings are in comparison to others on the network. Not helping here, is that both the studio and network are basically the same- Universal Cable Productions is the studio and it's under the aegis of NBC/Universal's cable division. The studio may not be motivated to cover additional costs incurred by wage increases, or by a reduced license fee if both are corporate siblings...

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