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Well a pat on the back for this one. Sounds interesting and a fresh idea on merging two forms of entertainment,

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/l...ounces-TV-Cast

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Saw a trailer during Revolution. Is Syfy coming back to life?
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Looked interesting. I hope a viewer can enjoy the program without requiring MMO or other online participation.
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Looked interesting. I hope a viewer can enjoy the program without requiring MMO or other online participation.

+1 .. if the writers have a long range plan and a story arc planned out, it could be fantastic. Certainly an overabundance of eye candy in the female department. I've been a Jaime Murray fan ever since I saw her, I've been a Julie Benz fan since Angel. Mia Kirshner always seemed to play characters I didn't like, but she was consistent and still pleasant to the eyes. I don't know the other actress. Everyone on the cast seemed to really be getting into the show.

I'm looking forward to some space opera, I've missed it and if it turned out to be a good show, that would just be the icing on the cake.
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Why do all these recent shows like this and Falling Skies and Revolution feel this need to pound mankind back to near stone age conditions as their basic premise? After the first time, it gets extremely old to me.

I have just been rereading some old sci-fi novels by James Schmitz who was most active back in the late fifties and sixties. I would love to see somebody do a series based on some of his stuff. Most of his works were set in a distant future where mankind has spread throughout the galaxy and science is generally depicted in a positive way where it is used to solve problems rather than being seen as the cause of problems. Why can't any of the current producers/writers/directors/whatever have a more positive vision of the future? I had hoped the recent reboot of the Star Trek movie series would have inspired some more uplifting TV series/movies, but I guess I was being too optimistic.

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Why do all these recent shows like this and Falling Skies and Revolution feel this need to pound mankind back to near stone age conditions as their basic premise? After the first time, it gets extremely old to me.
I have just been rereading some old sci-fi novels by James Schmitz who was most active back in the late fifties and sixties. I would love to see somebody do a series based on some of his stuff. Most of his works were set in a distant future where mankind has spread throughout the galaxy and science is generally depicted in a positive way where it is used to solve problems rather than being seen as the cause of problems. Why can't any of the current producers/writers/directors/whatever have a more positive vision of the future? I had hoped the recent reboot of the Star Trek movie series would have inspired some more uplifting TV series/movies, but I guess I was being too optimistic.
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Why do all these recent shows like this and Falling Skies and Revolution feel this need to pound mankind back to near stone age conditions as their basic premise? After the first time, it gets extremely old to me. ...
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It started to look like Mad Max. Love the redhead with the cape. eek.gif

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BTW the first 14 minutes of the first episode has been up at Syfy.com for a couple weeks now.

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Why do all these recent shows like this and Falling Skies and Revolution feel this need to pound mankind back to near stone age conditions as their basic premise? After the first time, it gets extremely old to me.

I had hoped the recent reboot of the Star Trek movie series would have inspired some more uplifting TV series/movies, but I guess I was being too optimistic.

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If anything the new Star Trek franchise is moving even further away from those themes. First movie had the destruction of the Romulan and Klingon planets. In the upcoming one, London is obliterated.
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If anything the new Star Trek franchise is moving even further away from those themes. First movie had the destruction of the Romulan and Klingon planets. In the upcoming one, London is obliterated.

Is it a Time travel theme to WWII London?
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If anything the new Star Trek franchise is moving even further away from those themes. First movie had the destruction of the Romulan and Klingon planets. In the upcoming one, London is obliterated.

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I anticipate this is going to be like Falling Skies. But get worse after a good-looking pilot.

The game is full of massive sci-fi creatures and tech and I can't imagine how they can keep that in the mix once they've blown through all the trailer sequences in the pilot. TNT can barely keep Falling Skies in sci-fi apocalyptic elements and alien menace with their budget and Syfy are even cheaper. I'm expecting a lot of sitting around in camps looking depressed and aliens who look like humans in this as well. It's the cheap sci-fi plague.


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I anticipate this is going to be like Falling Skies. But get worse after a good-looking pilot.

The game is full of massive sci-fi creatures and tech and I can't imagine how they can keep that in the mix once they've blown through all the trailer sequences in the pilot. TNT can barely keep Falling Skies in sci-fi apocalyptic elements and alien menace with their budget and Syfy are even cheaper. I'm expecting a lot of sitting around in camps looking depressed and aliens who look like humans in this as well. It's the cheap sci-fi plague.

I'm hoping that this will be different because of the video game tie-in. Maybe they can share some of the CGI. And video games are ridiculously profitable, at least the successful ones, so maybe they can share budgets too!
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Is it a Time travel theme to WWII London?

Did I get that wrong? Sorry. I thought I read that somewhere.
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I'm hoping that this will be different because of the video game tie-in. Maybe they can share some of the CGI. And video games are ridiculously profitable, at least the successful ones, so maybe they can share budgets too!

Honestly I can't see the game being very successful at all. Big names struggle with a pay model and I can't see many dropping $60 on this when there so many FTP games out there, even with a TV tie-in.


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If anything the new Star Trek franchise is moving even further away from those themes. First movie had the destruction of the Romulan and Klingon planets. In the upcoming one, London is obliterated.

Nope.

Romulus & Vulcan were destroyed not the Klingon home planet Kronos.

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Kronos was blown up in the old generation Trek. So in that sense the new version is sticking close to the original. They just chose different worlds to destroy. smile.gif


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Kronos was blown up in the old generation Trek. So in that sense the new version is sticking close to the original. They just chose different worlds to destroy. smile.gif

Wasnt it Praxis not Kronos.

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Wasnt it Praxis not Kronos.

My mistake! You are correct. I was thinking it was Kronos because I remembered they had to evacuate.


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If anything the new Star Trek franchise is moving even further away from those themes. First movie had the destruction of the Romulan and Klingon planets. In the upcoming one, London is obliterated.

They can't obliterate London, G.I. Joe already did it last week!

For years they always picked on New York or L.A., it is nice to see some other big city have a bad year. Although I believe in the real world the Queen and James Bond could kick all of their butts - bad guys and evil aliens alike. GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!



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Nope.

Romulus & Vulcan were destroyed not the Klingon home planet Kronos.

Oh man! I guess I shouldn't post while on conference calls.
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I'm hoping that this will be different because of the video game tie-in. Maybe they can share some of the CGI. And video games are ridiculously profitable, at least the successful ones, so maybe they can share budgets too!
The game alone supposedly had a budget of $70 million, which is quite a bit less than AAA titles, but it wasn't exactly a cheap game to develop. And like Vision said, there are a lot of FTP games out there, including Planetside 2, which seem sort of similar. I don't know what their projections are, but it certainly seems like they have an uphill climb in order to turn a profit on that side of things. I know I won't be getting it (Or PS2 for that matter since I'm not a fan of those kinds of games).

I'll be giving the show a watch but I'm going in with low expectations...
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WARNING!! Scheduled recording problem:

Keep an eye on your recordings, especially on Directv. I set mine up to record Defiance next Monday and made it a series. I was looking at my to do list and my scheduler had decided I didn't need to record the Monday showing, that it would instead record the Friday showing. It's that stupid HD not being listed in the guide thing. Anyway, if you set it to record this Monday, you better check and make sure it is going to record Monday and not the following Friday.
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Starts Monday, can't wait to see how they do.

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I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully, it will be a step up from 'Falling Skies'.
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But given Siffy's dubious track record and limited budgets, I dunno. We'll have to see and I will be surprised if it even matches Falling Skies.
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