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Premiere: Saturday @4PM on The History Channel

The story of the famous American feud as told by historians, scholars and descendants.

Following the doc History Channel is repeating Hatfields and McCoys. Looking forward to seeing it since I missed the original showing.
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Probably the best mini-series I have ever watched on TV, or at least top 5 or 3. Simply amazing, engrossing, enteratining, just perfect for us. We loved it.

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Probably the best mini-series I have ever watched on TV, or at least top 5 or 3. Simply amazing, engrossing, enteratining, just perfect for us. We loved it.

I don't think I'd put it in the same category as Roots, Winds of War, The Thorn Birds, Shaka Zulu, Jesus of Nazareth, North & South, Centennial, or Lonesome Dove, but it was pretty darned good.
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I recorded all the first run episodes of Hatfields & McCoys but didn't get any audio with Part 1 so I couldn't record it with audio until yesterday. I then watched Part 1 and was generally impressed. As we might have expected from a History Channel presentation, the show is historically accurate. Better yet, the performances were excellent, especially Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton as the heads of their respective clans. I also enjoyed Powers Boothe's performance as Judge Wall Hatfield.

My only criticism of the show arises from the History Channel's decision to ruthlessly bowdlerize the dialog. In a show as well written and performed as Hatfields & McCoys, that was a real shame. Nevertheless, I am very looking forward to seeing Parts 2 and 3.
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I recorded all the first run episodes of Hatfields & McCoys but didn't get any audio with Part 1 so I couldn't record it with audio until yesterday. I then watched Part 1 and was generally impressed. As we might have expected from a History Channel presentation, the show is historically accurate. Better yet, the performances were excellent, especially Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton as the heads of their respective clans. I also enjoyed Powers Boothe's performance as Judge Wall Hatfield.

My only criticism of the show arises from the History Channel's decision to ruthlessly bowdlerize the dialog. In a show as well written and performed as Hatfields & McCoys, that was a real shame. Nevertheless, I am very looking forward to seeing Parts 2 and 3.

Costner gives the performance of his career I think. He's always been hit or miss for me, but is perfect in this.

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Costner gives the performance of his career I think. He's always been hit or miss for me, but is perfect in this.

I agree that Costner's performances have been, to put it gently, uneven. You never know whether the No Way Out and The Untouchables or the Waterworld and The Postman Costner will show up. Fortunately, we saw the No Way Out and Untouchables Costner in Hatfields & McCoys.
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I agree that Costner's performances have been, to put it gently, uneven. You never know whether the No Way Out and The Untouchables or the Waterworld and The Postman Costner will show up. Fortunately, we saw the No Way Out and Untouchables Costner in Hatfields & McCoys.

My favorite performance before this was Open Range...going by that and here, I think he was born to late. The perfect western hero in a time when westerns were out of fashion..I'm eager to here your opinion after you have seen all 3 parts. Kevin really shines in the finale, imo.

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I have finally seen all three episodes of Hatfields & McCoys and really enjoyed them. Kevin Costner was great and so was Bill Paxton, who as Randall McCoy went from a pious prayer spouting leader of the McCoy clan to a pitiful drunk. I also thought the documentary was interesting. There is not a lot known about the early days of the feud, and I was surprised to find out that there were many law suits and court proceedings back and forth, including a bitter one over a hog, which were big deals to subsistence farmers like the clans were at the time.
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I recorded all the first run episodes of Hatfields & McCoys but didn't get any audio with Part 1 so I couldn't record it with audio until yesterday. I then watched Part 1 and was generally impressed. As we might have expected from a History Channel presentation, the show is historically accurate. Better yet, the performances were excellent, especially Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton as the heads of their respective clans. I also enjoyed Powers Boothe's performance as Judge Wall Hatfield.

My only criticism of the show arises from the History Channel's decision to ruthlessly bowdlerize the dialog. In a show as well written and performed as Hatfields & McCoys, that was a real shame. Nevertheless, I am very looking forward to seeing Parts 2 and 3.

If you're talking about editing out the questionable language, they only did that on the repeat showings.
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If you're talking about editing out the questionable language, they only did that on the repeat showings.

Indeed, the editing I was complaining about was a rerun of Part 1. Part 2, which I watched this evening was a rerun, too, and had been marred by the same sort of bluenosed, ham handed editing I complained about in my earlier post. I have not yet watched Part 3 but it was a first run episode so time will tell how it sounds.

Despite my reservations about the sound editing, I really enjoyed Parts 1 and 2 of Hatfields & McCoys and am looking forward to Part 3. The writing is taut and the performances outstanding. Knowing that this murderous tale is a retelling of actual events made my blood run cold. When Anse Hatfield told the other members of his family that they were at war I recalled Thomas Hobbes famous dictum that in a state of war life is "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short". That about sums up the Hatfields and McCoys' lives.
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Pre-order for July 31st release of Hatfields & McCoys Blu-Ray.

I think Costner and Paxton will be nominated for Emmys and have a very good chance to win, especially Costner.

I thought Noel Fisher, as Ellison 'Cotton Top' Mounts, turned in an excellent performance. I was very impressed. Its not easy portraying a half-wit and making it seem real. He was so good my wife was thinking he was really like that.
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How about the lawyer and the performance by Powers Boothe as Judge Valentine Hatfield? Haven't forgotten his playing Jim Jones in the Guyana Tragedy.

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Pre-order for July 31st release of Hatfields & McCoys Blu-Ray.

I think Costner and Paxton will be nominated for Emmys and have a very good chance to win, especially Costner.

I thought Noel Fisher, as Ellison 'Cotton Top' Mounts, turned in an excellent performance. I was very impressed. Its not easy portraying a half-wit and making it seem real. He was so good my wife was thinking he was really like that.

Apologies in advance

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How about the lawyer and the performance by Powers Boothe as Judge Valentine Hatfield? Haven't forgotten his playing Jim Jones in the Guyana Tragedy.

I agree that Powers Boothe was terrific in Hatfields & McCoys. He is a powerful actor and has never been better than he was there. I also loved Booth's performances as the monstrous Cy Tolliver in Deadwood.

Finally watched Part 3 tonight and thought it was the best one of the bunch. What a dark and deeply disturbing story it told! So much maiming and killing and to what end?
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‘Hatfields & McCoys’ Producer Leslie Greif
By Nellie Andreeva, Deadline.com - Jun. 23, 2012

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(Kevin Costner, Leslie Greif and Bill Paxton; Getty Immages)

It might have taken three decades to turn America’s most famous family feud into a miniseries, but it’s been worth the effort for veteran TV and film producer Leslie Greif, whose Hatfields & McCoys broke basic cable ratings records in its Memorial Day debut. The three-part story about the infamous post-Civil War clash starring Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton ranked as the top three most-watched entertainment telecasts of all time on ad-supported cable, with the conclusion drawing a record 14.3 million viewers. The mini’s success even earned Greif a congratulatory call from Bob Iger, CEO of Disney, which co-owns History Channel parent A&E Networks.

It’s a fitting conclusion for a passion project that no one seemed interested in. Greif, a history buff, first got the idea for Hatfields & McCoys when he started in the TV business in the early 1980s. Broadcast television was attracting huge audiences with event miniseries like Roots and Shogun, and he thought a miniseries about the well-known rivalry would be the perfect calling card to break into the business. “It is a revenge story,” Greif explains. “I thought it had all the great drama, on top of it being a true story. I thought it would make for riveting television.”

There was some initial interest – one of the hottest writers at the time, Bill Kerby [The Rose], came onboard to write the mini, which was set up at CBS. But after languishing at the network for a while, it ended up in turnaround. For the next three decades, the project bounced around. Despite attracting top talent – Burt Lancaster was attached to star at one point, with Burt Reynolds and Tom Selleck also showing strong interest through the years — the mini never got to a green light.

“I presented it to any network that would consider doing it – there wasn’t a network executive that hadn’t heard my passion, my pledge, my pleas,” Greif says. It got to a point where he would sit down with network brass for a meeting, and they would start off by asking, “Please, don’t bring up the Hatfields & McCoys again.” Greif thought he had exhausted every perceivable option when three years ago he read that History was looking to enter original programming. He took his Hatfields & McCoys pitch to the channel’s president Nancy Dubuc. “In one meeting, she said yes,” Greif says, calling Dubuc “the visionary broadcaster of our generation.”

Costner was then approached to star. “He called me and said he would do it on one condition: ‘Do not change a word in the script.’ So we didn’t cut one thing.” The project was originally shopped “as a feature on TV” and a two-part miniseries. Because of Costner’s request, it was expanded to a three-part event, which History aired on three consecutive nights. And despite airing decades after the heyday of event miniseries, Greif feels Hatfields & McCoys was able to recapture the magic of those big telecasts of yesteryear. “It has become an event, with people watching together and talking about it,” Greif says.

Despite his Hatfields & McCoys idea getting shut down early on, Greif did make his producing debut with an event miniseries, 1986’s Sins starring Joan Collins and Timothy Dalton. He gradually expanded into features, scripted series, including the long-running Walker, Texas Ranger, which he co-created and executive produced, and TV documentaries, including 2007’s Brando. And when the longform arena started to shrink as broadcast and some cable networks abandoned the genre, Greif focused a lot of his efforts in the fast-growing reality field, where he has produced a number of series, including cable hit Gene Simmons: Family Jewels on History sibling A&E.

Now Greif, an Emmy nominee for Brando, faces the possibility of a second Emmy nomination for Hatfields & McCoys. And Emmy voters always have the appetite for vintage stories: Another blockbuster Western miniseries, AMC’s Broken Trail, ended up winning the best miniseries Emmy in 2007.

“It would be a huge honor,” Greif says of a possible nomination. While he stresses that if he’s lucky enough to get a nom, he knows the competition in the category would be “stellar”. But he would also like to see all nominees on similar footing, noting that the best lightweight boxer doesn’t stand a chance against a heavyweight one. “Doing a two-hour TV movie is not the same as a six-hour miniseries or a 12-hour limited series,” he points out. “The writing, directing, the scope, the attitude and the money are very different.”

The longform field is a lot more crowded than it was in 2007 when Broken Trail won because last year, the TV Academy merged the best original movie and best miniseries categories. While he stresses that he’d be lucky to get a nom in the top longform category, Greif also would like to see all nominees on similar footing, noting that the best lightweight boxer doesn’t stand a chance against a heavyweight one. In addition to TV movies having to compete with miniseries, some programs that air as regular series also have qualified for the best movie/miniseries category, avoiding more fierce competition in the best series categories. Recent cases include the first season of Downton Abbey last year and American Horror Story this year.

Whatever happens at this year’s Emmys, Greif says there’s no question that Hatfields & McCoys has completed its journey — it won’t go the way of other successful miniseries, such as USA’s The Starter Wife, which spawned a regular series. “There will be no season two,” Greif says. “This is the fork of the story. “

http://www.deadline.com/2012/06/emmys-hatfields-mccoys-producer-leslie-greif/


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should be alot of nominations from this series at the Emmys...Both actors and supporting casts were great..

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History did an excellent job with this .. I hope more stories of this type are forthcoming ..

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Comcast’s A&E stake now being sold for $2.8 billion thanks to 'Hatfields & McCoys' success
By Claire Atkinson, New York Post - Jul. 6, 2012

The “Hatfields & McCoys” are helping Comcast strike gold.

The cable company is selling its NBCUniversal unit’s 15 percent stake in A&E Television Networks for $2.8 billion, The Post has learned.

That’s 40 percent more than the value Comcast attributed to the collection of cable TV stations in a regulatory filing just two months ago — on May 2.

Then, Comcast said A&E Television Networks, which includes the History Channel, Lifetime and A&E, was worth $2.019 billion.

But that was before the History Channel’s “Hatfields & McCoys” drew an average of 14 million viewers during its May 28-30 airing.

That may have helped boost the value of A&E Television Networks.

AETN owners Disney-ABC and Hearst Corp., which each own a 42.5 percent stake, are buying Comcast’s slice and splitting it equally.

Comcast was expected to close the sale at the end of the second quarter, but negotiations are continuing.

While a price has been agreed to, other details are still being hammered out, a source told The Post.

The outstanding issues most likely relate to talks between Hearst and Comcast over retransmission fees.

Hearst owns NBC-affiliated stations. Independently stations give a portion of their carriage fees back to the network.

Comcast was selling the asset because it needed cash, one source said.

Separately, Comcast is also reportedly looking to buy out Microsoft’s 50 percent stake in the co-owned website, MSNBC.com.

The Philadelphia-based cable operator also has to build capacity to fund equity redemptions by General Electric in advance of mid-2014.

At that time, GE is expected to exercise an option to sell half its 49 percent stake in NBCUniversal to Comcast.

“Comcast always said the [NBCUniversal-GE] deal would pay for itself out of its current operations,” said one source. “You have movie studios and the network and stations that are sucking cash, so it’s the cable networks that are the most obvious place to look.”

The money to pay Comcast will come out of AETN coffers rather than its owners.

JPMorgan Chase is representing A&E Television Networks to raise the cash to close the deal, sources said.

The deal gives A&E Television Networks a valuation in the $20 billion range, just $10 billion less than NBCUniversal’s total worth at the time of Comcast’s deal to acquire it in 2010.

AETN has two top-five cable networks in the 25-54-year-old demographic: History Channel and A&E.

It also operates overseas in 150 countries.

Current revenue is estimated to be $3.2 billion.

The company has experienced an astounding rise over the past few years.

The mini-series “Hatfields & McCoys” broke records garnering 14 million viewers in May, making it the biggest entertainment program on ad-supported cable.

Back in 1993 when NBC, ABC and Hearst bought a stake from Radio City Music Hall, the A&E Channel was pegged at $575 million.

Representatives for all parties declined comment.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/feud_fuel_sale_ChWiL2e2lbojTMHpe3HnII


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