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post #271 of 581 Old 10-21-2012, 10:21 AM
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Even with the off-screen shooting, I said that they did shoot him.

A misdirect that wasn't a misdirect.

I thought he was shot because the island dictator was a real a-hole and wouldn't have done a ruse. I( wouldn't do him any good to pull a ruse on the other two. They had no power, they were just pawns and pawns are expendable.

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Even with the off-screen shooting, I said that they did shoot him.
A misdirect that wasn't a misdirect.
I thought he was shot because the island dictator was a real a-hole and wouldn't have done a ruse. I( wouldn't do him any good to pull a ruse on the other two. They had no power, they were just pawns and pawns are expendable.

The obvious thing was that he was shot. That's clearly what they were trying to make you think - since they said they were going to shoot him, then you heard gunshots.

The question is, why would the producers waste the dramatic impact of showing him get shot if there wasn't some creative reason to do so? They showed him dead at the very beginning of the next episode, so it's not like they were doing any kind of creative misdirect.
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On another note, I must have missed something, because I had no idea what the deal was with the random swimming guy shown at the beginning and the end of the episode. Were we supposed to know what that was about?
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Wasn't the second swimmer the XO?

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Wasn't the second swimmer the XO?
They both were the XO.
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On another note, I must have missed something, because I had no idea what the deal was with the random swimming guy shown at the beginning and the end of the episode. Were we supposed to know what that was about?
It was the XO.
I saw it as him trying to deal with the stress of it it. Sort of sink or swim and as it stands, he can swim in the current situation he finds himself in.
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The obvious thing was that he was shot. That's clearly what they were trying to make you think - since they said they were going to shoot him, then you heard gunshots.
The question is, why would the producers waste the dramatic impact of showing him get shot if there wasn't some creative reason to do so? They showed him dead at the very beginning of the next episode, so it's not like they were doing any kind of creative misdirect.

Maybe they reached the limit of execution style shootings and didnt think, or it didnt pass the ratings moderators ;-) .....You can execute him off screen, if you show it, well have to show episode late at night wink.gifbiggrin.gif ....YOu can shoot people at distance or even in defense without too much hassel though so dont worry about that :P
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The likely answer is that it was cheaper, just a millisecond of a sound clip, no squibs, no mess, no actor, probably done in post.smile.gif
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Well, they could have at least had the decency to drag the body back in and drop it at the feet of the other two... wink.gif
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I think just the fact that we're questioning it means it was a poor production decision. But, as I said, I'm glad they cleared it up in the first scene of the next episode.

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I think just the fact that we're questioning it means it was a poor production decision. But, as I said, I'm glad they cleared it up in the first scene of the next episode.
I probably wouldn't have questioned it if it had only been one shot.

When it was multiple shots, it started me thinking the rescue teamwas going to come bursting in. Even after that didn't happen, my mind still focused on the fact we didn't see the event or the aftermath. That was what made me think it was a ruse.
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So what is that the french NATO lady looking for on the island? Not sure if they said and I missed it or it wasn't said at all.
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Some type of mineral that the warlord wants so he can sell it. She found it but told him she didnt

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Some type of mineral that the warlord wants so he can sell it. She found it but told him she didnt
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And she told the xo about it at the end



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She needs to protect the island. Oh, great. Where have I heard that before?

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She needs to protect the island. Oh, great. Where have I heard that before?

Not to mention, they are using some of the very same location spots shot in Lost.
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I was out of town on a family visit for a week but finally got to see the last two episodes of Last Resort last night. I am continuing to enjoy the show but my years in the navy made me uncomfortable with a couple of things. First, I nearly levitated when the SECDEF's senior assistant called Captain Chaplain "mister." Two things bothered me about that. Somebody who was an old time, experienced Washington player would know that in the Navy, commanders and above are addressed by their rank, never as "mister." Doing so is regarded as an insult because only lieutenant commanders and below are so addressed. I was surprised that the captain didn't call her on on her gaffe but for some reason he didn't.

I was also bothered by how the sailors addressed the COB as "sir" when he was released from the brig. This, too, is a no no. Chief petty officers are always addressed by their rank and not as "sir." The appellation "sir" is reserved for commissioned officers. Any self respecting chief I ever knew would have jerked a half hitch in the nether regions of any sailor who made such a mistake.

I admit that my complaints are quibbles and want to stress that I enjoy the show. Also, the orders and responses given on the boat when it is underway have seemed authentic from the perspective of a guy who was a surface warfare officer a looong time ago.

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Not to mention, they are using some of the very same location spots shot in Lost.
Noticed that. The hill where they have shot numerous times overlooking the beach is the exact same hill that the Losties golf course was set up on.

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Not to mention, they are using some of the very same location spots shot in Lost.
All I'll say is, if a polar bear or smoke monster show up, I'm bailing. biggrin.gif
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Somebody who was an old time, experienced Washington player would know that in the Navy, commanders and above are addressed by their rank, never as "mister."

And that even extends to LCDRs and LTCOLs being addressed as Commander and Colonel in some circumstances.

The one thing that bothers me is how well armed a boomer crew is. eek.gif

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I admit that my complaints are quibbles and want to stress that I enjoy the show.

They might be minor errors, but they would also have been easy to avoid through simple dialogue changes. When a show can improve through such inexpensive means, such mistakes are worth noting.
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i thought tonights episode was excellent, i always knew the us govt was up to something.
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And that even extends to LCDRs and LTCOLs being addressed as Commander and Colonel in some circumstances.
The one thing that bothers me is how well armed a boomer crew is. eek.gif

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I was also bothered by how the sailors addressed the COB as "sir" when he was released from the brig. This, too, is a no no. Chief petty officers are always addressed by their rank and not as "sir." The appellation "sir" is reserved for commissioned officers. Any self respecting chief I ever knew would have jerked a half hitch in the nether regions of any sailor who made such a mistake.

"Mister" gwsat,

On a submarine, the Chief of the Boat can be addressed as COB, (but never, ever Sir) in fact they prefer it. Of course, I wouldn't expect a skimmer to know that tongue.gif

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"Mister" gwsat,
On a submarine, the Chief of the Boat can be addressed as COB, (but never, ever Sir) in fact they prefer it. Of course, I wouldn't expect a skimmer to know that tongue.gif
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So you're saying the Chief of the Boat prefers to be addressed as COB? After re-reading both posts, it seems that's what gwsat was saying also.

BTW, when did Navy personnel start saluting uncovered? Is that fleet wide or reserved for submariners?

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"Telephone Colonels"

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To try and sound more impressive when on the phone to another defense organization or commercial enterprise a Lt.Col will introduce themselves as "Colonel Smith".....the person on the other end doesn't know if they're dealing with a full bird or not, so has to act as if they are.
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Interesting episode. Little slow but good. Glad the COB finally respects the Lt.

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