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post #31 of 36 Old 12-31-2012, 10:28 PM
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Actually, I am not the least surprised. Unlike most people here, I couldn't stand the pilot. I never even finished it, which is very unusual for me. I would have never been abl to watch a series based on that treatment.

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In my case, it was more of an I can take it or leave it type of thing. I wasn't thrilled by the pilot, but didn't hate it, either.

I simple didn't care either way.
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The overdone special effects were the biggest negative for me.

On the original series, there was the footage shown once in a while where a bat puppet would be flown in and landed on its perch, and the bat puppet and the perch would turn into Grandpa.  (I don't remember ever seeing Grandpa turn into the bat.)  There would be a giggle on the laugh track, and it was all for the joke.

But on "Mockingbird Lane," a pack of rats turns into Grandpa and a swirl of dust and powder (or was it petals?) turns into Lily, and the presentation is more to impress us than to entertain us.  I watched the rest of the pilot despite that.
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The overdone special effects were the biggest negative for me.
On the original series, there was the footage shown once in a while where a bat puppet would be flown in and landed on its perch, and the bat puppet and the perch would turn into Grandpa.  (I don't remember ever seeing Grandpa turn into the bat.)  There would be a giggle on the laugh track, and it was all for the joke.
But on "Mockingbird Lane," a pack of rats turns into Grandpa and a swirl of dust and powder (or was it petals?) turns into Lily, and the presentation is more to impress us than to entertain us.  I watched the rest of the pilot despite that.

I actually though it was ironic they built this giant set (including a facade on the Universal backlot) and yet still needed a ton of CGI everywhere.

I miss the days of "Alias Smith and Jones" where you never saw the quick draw. The camera was always on the bad guy reaching for his piece while you heard the sound effect of the hero's gun being drawn. Then there'd be a cut to him already pointing it. Simple, cheap and effective. That was actually parodied in "Blazing Saddles" where "the Waco Kid" never seems to move, but he still blasts the guns out of 6 guy's hands.

That was always a TV and movie trick: you do the transorm off camera - or in shadow - and it's all implied. Now, we have to show it in some glitzy way to appease the empty minded.

Sometimes creative camera angles and cuts go much further than a guy with an art tablet and 3D software.
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That was always a TV and movie trick: you do the transorm off camera - or in shadow - and it's all implied. Now, we have to show it in some glitzy way to appease the empty minded.

It's the same way in horror movies: the things unseen were the most scary, but now it's all blood, gore, and visual effects.
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It's the same way in horror movies: the things unseen were the most scary, but now it's all blood, gore, and visual effects.
That's the problem.

You can't just lump horror into one category anymore.

Now you have:

- Horror: These are the "Monster" or "Ghost" movies where something creepy is killing or otherwise terrifying people. You get the jump scares and people disappearing - only to return dead, possesed or in a pod of some sort. Often, the kills are off screen and there isn't a lot of blood - except when another character finds a trail of it. In some of the more gory versions, they can cross over a bit into the slasher category. Usually, this category plays on common fears, like grave yards, the Devil, creepy paintings, trees, basements or the attic. Poltergeist and the original version of the Omen would be examples of this.

- Suspense: This is the "something isn't right" with a (House/Kid/Neighbor/Object) and there's usually a spell, curse or hidden burial ground involved. The whole movie leaves you uneasy, but there may not be a single death in the entire thing except maybe right toward the end. These movies often cross over a bit into mysteries. The Shining, The Other (or even The Others) or Turn of the Screw would be examples of this. These usually have somewhat of a slow boil to the climax.

- Slasher: These range from similar to horror movies with some violent deaths with very little blood to full on blood, guts and cgi-enhanced body part removal gore porn. These movies are seldom "scary" so much as "disturbing". They make you uncomfortable to watch as people have eyes and other parts removed on camera, or are impaled, chopped up or made into a wet mess. At the low guts end, you have Halloween on up to full on gore fests like Saw.

As a fourth, but smaller, category you have the "self aware" horror movies (usually from the slasher category) that play off the conventions of that type of film. These would include movies like the Scream and Cabin in the Woods. In these movies, characters actually reference the "rules" of such films. Friday the 13th Part VI also employed a bit of this.
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