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That look on Gabriels face at the end. He will not allow her to get away and rat them out.
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Wonder if the rat's sample is good enough or will Elizabeth befriend the Mary Kay's rep's husband.
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Wonder if the rat's sample is good enough or will Elizabeth befriend the Mary Kay's rep's husband.
The Mary Kay lady character, Young Hee, is played by Ruthie Ann Miles. I was so impressed by Miles charm and talent, I checked her out. She won a Tony last year for her performance in the currently running Broadway revival of The King and I. Apparently, not only can the lady act, she can sing too.
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Soon we may see if her Americans husband "sings" too.
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The Mary Kay lady character, Young Hee, is played by Ruthie Ann Miles. I was so impressed by Miles charm and talent, I checked her out. She won a Tony last year for her performance in the currently running Broadway revival of The King and I. Apparently, not only can the lady act, she can sing too.
Hoon Lee, who plays a lead character on the Cinemax show "Banshee" played the King in that revival.

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Hoon Lee, who plays a lead character on the Cinemax show "Banshee" played the King in that revival.
Hoon Lee was a replacement in the revival of The King and I that Ruthie Ann Miles costarred in. According to the Internet Broadway Data Base, Ken Watanabe played the King on opening night. Also according to IBDB, Hoon Lee took over the role several months later. Keli O'Hara won The Best Actress in a Musical Tony for her performance in that production.
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Hoon Lee was a replacement in the revival of The King and I that Ruthie Ann Miles costarred in. According to the Internet Broadway Data Base, Ken Watanabe played the King on opening night. Also according to IBDB, Hoon Lee took over the role several months later. Keli O'Hara won The Best Actress in a Musical Tony for her performance in that production.
Right, he was a replacement, and he got some better reviews than Watanabe: "A richly imagined classic had assumed even fuller dimensions."
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/24/th...arch.html?_r=0
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The FBI is already suspicious of Gene's death. I wonder how they would cleanly dispose of Martha without rousing even more, if it came to that?
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The FBI is already beyond being suspicious about Martha so rousing further suspicion is no longer a concern at this point. There is no turning back for her. From the Soviets perspective, it's best now to dispose of her, whether that be by killing her or shuffling her off to the mother country or one of its sympathetic allies.

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They dispose of her so she's not found. The FBI will think she ran because they found out who she was
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I found the most interesting photograph this morning.

Have a look. Does this look like someone we know?
That's Annet. I'd know those teeth anywhere.
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I can't see them extrilfating Martha back to Russia. Too much trouble for a relatively low-level and potentially unstable asset. The only question is, who's going to put her out of her misery? My guess is Elizabeth or Gabriel (or Claudia!) because Phillip just won't be able to do it. Oleg is a possibility as well, although I'm not sure he's ever even met Phil & Liz.
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Oleg will turn!
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That's Annet. I'd know those teeth anywhere.
Respectfully disagree. Annet has a massive over-bite. This young woman does not.
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Respectfully disagree. Annet has a massive over-bite. This young woman does not.
With respect, she's tilting her head down, and those massive upper chompers are all you can see, the lower jawline being completely obscured. By them massive chompers.

Not that it matters. Annet is a stunningly beautiful woman, overbite or not.
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Right, he was a replacement, and he got some better reviews than Watanabe: "A richly imagined classic had assumed even fuller dimensions."
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/24/th...arch.html?_r=0
With apologies in advance for continuing OT, I post to thank you for the link to the terrific NYT review of Hoon Lee's apparently wonderful performance as the King in the current revival of The King and I. Kelli O'hara, a graduate of Oklahoma City University's legendary theater program, has long been one of my favorite musical theater performers. I was delighted when she at last won a long overdue Tony for her performance in the show.
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The only question is, who's going to put her out of her misery? My guess is Elizabeth or Gabriel (or Claudia!) because Phillip just won't be able to do it. Oleg is a possibility as well, although I'm not sure he's ever even met Phil & Liz.

Not a chance in hell Oleg would be sent to eliminate Martha. That's not his thing.

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No but it sounds like Arkady was pulling him in to talk about Martha's exfiltration.

So it sounded like they were going to exfiltrate her but her running away may have taken away that option.
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Elizabeth could perhaps be told to "off" Martha, by Gabriel, & told not to tell her husband Philip ...
" Hey honey did you get her on the boat safely tonight""
Elizabeth : "Yes I did" .
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Elizabeth could perhaps be told to "off" Martha, by Gabriel, & told not to tell her husband Philip ...
" Hey honey did you get her on the boat safely tonight""
Elizabeth : "Yes I did" .
Still think the pills she takes is how she will be offed. It will be believed to be suicide due to guilt. They have focused in on her taking them and Phillip shook the bottle when going through her purse and finding an removing the gun. I kept thinking Gabriel was going to put them or poison her wine or food, but after running away, not sure how that will play out.
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Thought this week's episode was a brilliant hour of television. I was blown away. The episode was at once tragic and darkly funny. I was moved by Martha's despair over her seemingly hopeless plight. Elizabeth's crises in confidence about Philip also moved me. Whatever else can be said about their murderous double lives, Philip and Elizabeth do love each other.

I saw a terrific review of the episode here. Highly recommended!
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Not a chance in hell Oleg would be sent to eliminate Martha. That's not his thing.
Martha realizes she's been made by her boss. Unwilling in the end to go to Russia, especially without "Clark", she is not ideologically aligned with the cause. It seems her end could be self-inflicted on that bridge at Rock Creek Park.

and that Clark has spilled ALL the beans on his identity now (his true name), she is not long for this world and Phillip knows that secret must go away with her one way or the other.

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Imagine if Stan had stayed in the park only to see Philip calling out "Martha!"
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I was surprised to hear the Rezidentura even suggest exfiltrating Martha, actually. Under the circumstances, they would probably, regretfully, come to the decision that it just wouldn't be worth it. Martha probably wouldn't go along with it anyway, and might then feel she was backed into a corner with her only hope resting in ratting out Clark.

There's just no way this could possibly have ended well for her. That's been what's made it such a wrenching storyline. She and Reyes are really selling it, too.
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Imagine if Stan had stayed in the park only to see Philip calling out "Martha!"
Ha, indeed. When Stan eventually DOES find out who is neighbors really are, what a mindf*%k that will truly be.
I couldn't even imagine. The primary focus of your job, with the highest priority to find them. And they are right across the street the entire time. Your friends, in fact.

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Ha, indeed. When Stan eventually DOES find out who is neighbors really are, what a mindf*%k that will truly be.
I couldn't even imagine. The primary focus of your job, with the highest priority to find them. And they are right across the street the entire time. Your friends, in fact.
That can't happen until the series finale. There's no way they could come back from that kind of exposure. Unless Stan dies and takes the knowledge with him, of course....
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Martha realizes she's been made by her boss. Unwilling in the end to go to Russia, especially without "Clark", she is not ideologically aligned with the cause. It seems her end could be self-inflicted on that bridge at Rock Creek Park.

and that Clark has spilled ALL the beans on his identity now (his true name), she is not long for this world and Phillip knows that secret must go away with her one way or the other.
Unless it was a fake out, wasn't there a pretty good clue about Martha's immediate future in the preview for next week?On a totally unimportant thing, I got a kick out of the son's facial expressions each time he sipped that beer, trying to play cool.
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tl99 must think there is a trap door in that plane.

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Seeing Elizabeth walk up to Martha with her hand in her pocket, I thought she stabbed Martha when she started freaking out. But just a gut punch to knock the air out.
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Early in the show I thought Martha was a really annoying character, but Alison Wright put in an amazing performance this week just with expressions and mannerisms. Pity she never got to do anything as dramatic as this earlier when she was just the dowdy, irrelevant wife plot.

I don't see her surviving long though. Since the special operations woman at the rezidentura organized a pilot of her own I'm expecting one in the back of the head for Martha and a long fall from a great height over the ocean. I also entertained the idea that they would smuggle the virus back to Russia in Martha instead of the rat. Injecting the rat blood into her to keep it viable.


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