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Old 07-14-2015, 12:31 PM
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takes effect this week from what I hear...your DVR Guide provider might not have the updated info yet...either way make sure to manually change the recording date

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...turdays-808421
I use the guide on my TiVo, which has heretofore reliably changed nights and times for continuing series. It continues to show Hannibal on Thursday night. I also checked the program listings on the NBC site. You will note that it too indicates that the show will continue to be aired on Thursday, so who knows what the facts of the matter are? Maybe the change will occur next week.
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When these things are announced, unless they specify the date it's going to occur, it typically happens quickly. Our guides may not show the info until the day the change is made. The good news is that most DVR's that allow season passes (which is likely all of 'em) will "see" the show and record it whenever it shows up on the network schedule. Computers are good at stuff like that.
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When these things are announced, unless they specify the date it's going to occur, it typically happens quickly. Our guides may not show the info until the day the change is made. The good news is that most DVR's that allow season passes (which is likely all of 'em) will "see" the show and record it whenever it shows up on the network schedule. Computers are good at stuff like that.
The article in the link that TitusTroy provided states that both Hannibal and Aquarius are being moved to Saturday. Nevertheless, NBC's own programming guide, to which I provided a link in my last post, shows both shows being aired this Thursday. Because that's only two days away, I don't know what to think. Either NBC is glacially slow at updating their program guide or Hannibal really will be shown this Thursday. At least we don't have long to wait to find out.
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I use the guide on my TiVo, which has heretofore reliably changed nights and times for continuing series. It continues to show Hannibal on Thursday night. I also checked the program listings on the NBC site. You will note that it too indicates that the show will continue to be aired on Thursday, so who knows what the facts of the matter are? Maybe the change will occur next week.

my FiOS guide shows the updated listings for both Aquarius and Hannibal for this Saturday...Thursday now shows a Dateline episode...so it definitely takes effect this week
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I have a few nitpicks with the writing of the last episode on what I think is the best show on television, right now. First, When Will came upon Hannibal sketching the painting and they then decided to leave, was that to go somewhere and fight to the death or something else? Then Will pulls out a knife, to do what, kill him right in the open courtyard in the bright light of day, doesn't seem smart nor does that seem like the brightest way to come at Hannibal. Then the chick just happens to be on the roof with a scope, why would anyone think murder was coming for Hannibal right then. A bit contrived, I think. Then Morpheus comes with his pistol, walking into Hannibal's lair where he knows the most dangerous man alive is more than likely waiting for him. You don't fight Hannibal like that, not on his terms, when he has time to prepare. And of course Hannibal knows he's coming and is just lying under the table in wait, I wonder how long he was waiting. He then cuts his achilles and somehow that is the end of the fight and we next see him tied to a chair. They are both on the floor, in reality a fight of some kind would ensue. Morpheus is a tough Bastard and He is not afraid!
Like everyone else I guess, I'm sure brains are tasty, but the sheer amount of effort and mess to get to them just seems like too much for too little even for one with a refined palate, like our Hannibal. Why cant he just serve some nice Kobi beef steaks, precut, salted and waiting to be seared, 4 minutes a side. Dinner time. My nits are over, I guess. I tried to put this in spoilers but it didn't work.

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my FiOS guide shows the updated listings for both Aquarius and Hannibal for this Saturday...Thursday now shows a Dateline episode...so it definitely takes effect this week
When you're right you're right. The TiVo guide, which is provided by Tribune Media Services, finally got with the program after the latest download, at 6:55 PM CDT, and now shows that Hannibal has been moved to Saturday. It took a while but they finally got it right, thank God!
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@shivaji : this show has slipped the surly bonds of logic a while ago. There is no point in thinking. Just go with it. It'll be over soon anyway
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@shivaji : this show has slipped the surly bonds of logic a while ago. There is no point in thinking. Just go with it. It'll be over soon anyway
With 'Hannibal', it's all about the journey since we've always known the destination. And the journey is at once beautiful and erotic, dangerous and disturbing. It's why we watch.

Such a shame so few appreciated the fine art to which this show aspires. It's fitting that the first half of this final season plays out in Florence, the capital of the Renaissance, the place in which Hannibal feels most at home.
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I have really enjoyed Gillian Anderson's performances as the chilly, amoral, Dr. Bedelia Du Maurier. Anderson is the ice queen from central casting and a perfect foil for the equally cold and amoral Hannibal. I have also loved Anderson in The Fall and can hardly wait for its new season.
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So they are giving ol' Hannibal the Axe (all puns intended)....


And moved to Sat.?...Bloody crazy (British accent)....
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I just watched "Digestivo." As far as this show has pushed the bounds of network television content before, this episode goes far beyond that. Were it a movie, the MPAA would debate if this episode should be only rated "R" or if it must be "NC17."
As usual, though, however perverse and deranged and disturbing and sick, the production is beautiful and the storytelling is intriguing. These are some seriously fouled-up characters.

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I just watched "Digestivo." As far as this show has pushed the bounds of network television content before, this episode goes far beyond that. Were it a movie, the MPAA would debate if this episode should be only rated "R" or if it must be "NC17."
As usual, though, however perverse and deranged and disturbing and sick, the production is beautiful and the storytelling is intriguing. These are some seriously fouled-up characters.
And last night's boundary-pushing episode was probably the most twisted one yet! Next week, Red Dragon starts.
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I have loved Hannibal from the git go. It is highly imaginative but still incredibly faithful to the characters Thomas Harris created in his Hannibal novels. I will really, really miss it.
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Wow was that the best episode of Hannibal ever? This season's, certainly.

I'm glad they didn't follow the book's script and resolved Mason's death and Hannibal's capture their own (and more fitting) way. Terrific.

I think NBC standards and practices just said f### it no one is watching anyway.

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Yeah, I like the twist they made from the novel/movie, Mason's got his just desserts, bam! the look on "his" face when looking in the mirror after the "surgery"..

Just a QQ, the "baby in pig" was dead already, right? anyways is that even possible?

Yeah Chiyo (sp) can snipe me anytime..

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Just a QQ, the "baby in pig" was dead already, right? anyways is that even possible?
It's possible to TRY, if you're a crazy sadist with zero ethics to give. It's not possible to succeed. I would think a pig and human are too far apart genetically for cross species gestation. Fortunately for our sanity, they probably wouldn't even be able to get the fertilized egg to implant. If they did, the fetus would be malformed and not be viable for long. It's strictly the stuff of nightmare.

Nurse Cordell is apparently a three star chef, an accomplished plastic surgeon, veterinarian, and a fertility and natal specialist. I think he has Hannibal beat
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Haha, not only 3 star chef, but a human flesh chef.. he prepared those tasty fingertips for Verger...

Who was the one Mason talking about an overcooked penis?

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The penis thing is a true story. Some guy in Germany placed an ad looking for someone willing to be killed and eaten by him, and some dude actually agreed.

Apparently they attempted together to eat the eatee's penis (last meal?), but lacking Cordell's culinary skills they burned it. Not wanting to let a good penis go to waste, they fed it to the dog. Eater then proceeded to kill eatee and ate a good chunk of him. He tried to argue in court that it was consensual. He was unsuccessful.

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Well. They certainly tied up the Verger storyline succinctly! Mason being consumed from the inside by the eel was a frightening visual (you don't want to know what my nightmare consisted of after watching it) and Fuller's version of classic ouroboros. Then there was the imagery of Hannibal rising, Phoenix-like (or christ-like, whatever you prefer), ready to take retribution on those who would tread on his turf. So many great visuals accompanied by a great soundtrack, or business as usual in this show's world.

And then, poof! It was all over, Hannibal surrendered, presumably after realizing the gig was up and there was no longer any place on earth he could find sanctuary. Glad to see he just nicked Jack's ankle instead of severing the achilles as I had feared. Next week - back to the business of capturing serial killers, now with the help of the imprisoned Hannibal we've all come to know. Are the rushing into the Red Dragon storyline, realizing they only have a few more eps to go?

I'm still a little shaky on this... who, exactly, was Chiyo? It's almost like she was his guardian angle, having saved him (and Jack) from doom several times. And who was the other girl referenced from Hannibal's past (started with an "M")...? His sister?
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Mischa was Hannibal's sister. Hannibal said he ate her but did not kill her.

Chiyoh was maid to Hannibal's aunt. She was roughly the same age as Hannibal and his sister and they kept company as kids.

The guy in the dungeon at Hannibal's ancestral home was supposedly Mischa's killer. Hannibal caught him and wanted Chiyoh to kill him, but Chiyoh decided to keep him alive in the dungeon instead.

Chiyoh is basically a deus ex machina to get Hannibal out of tight spots. Not a great role, but she looks good doing it.
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Chiyoh is basically a deus ex machina to get Hannibal out of tight spots. Not a great role, but she looks good doing it.
Thanks! I wonder if Chiyoh & Mischa were part of the Hannibal canon WRT to the books?
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They are in Hannibal Rising, which chronicles Hannibal's origin. I did not read or see the movie.
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Well. They certainly tied up the Verger storyline succinctly! Mason being consumed from the inside by the eel was a frightening visual (you don't want to know what my nightmare consisted of after watching it) and Fuller's version of classic ouroboros. Then there was the imagery of Hannibal rising, Phoenix-like (or christ-like, whatever you prefer), ready to take retribution on those who would tread on his turf. So many great visuals accompanied by a great soundtrack, or business as usual in this show's world.

And then, poof! It was all over, Hannibal surrendered, presumably after realizing the gig was up and there was no longer any place on earth he could find sanctuary. Glad to see he just nicked Jack's ankle instead of severing the achilles as I had feared. Next week - back to the business of capturing serial killers, now with the help of the imprisoned Hannibal we've all come to know. Are the rushing into the Red Dragon storyline, realizing they only have a few more eps to go?

I'm still a little shaky on this... who, exactly, was Chiyo? It's almost like she was his guardian angle, having saved him (and Jack) from doom several times. And who was the other girl referenced from Hannibal's past (started with an "M")...? His sister?

I think Hannibal surrendered for a few reasons. It wasn't that the "jig was up" he could have escaped if he wanted to. This was more of his relationship with Jack. Jack had that long speech about how he wanted to be rid of Hannibal and no longer know anything about him. Hannibal specifically let him know that now Jack will always know where to find him

Remember this season was largely done before the decision was made. They are basically following the path already laid out. The Red Dragon story was planned for the end of this season.


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Well. They certainly tied up the Verger storyline succinctly! Mason being consumed from the inside by the eel was a frightening visual (you don't want to know what my nightmare consisted of after watching it) and Fuller's version of classic ouroboros. Then there was the imagery of Hannibal rising, Phoenix-like (or christ-like, whatever you prefer), ready to take retribution on those who would tread on his turf. So many great visuals accompanied by a great soundtrack, or business as usual in this show's world.

And then, poof! It was all over, Hannibal surrendered, presumably after realizing the gig was up and there was no longer any place on earth he could find sanctuary. Glad to see he just nicked Jack's ankle instead of severing the achilles as I had feared. Next week - back to the business of capturing serial killers, now with the help of the imprisoned Hannibal we've all come to know. Are the rushing into the Red Dragon storyline, realizing they only have a few more eps to go?

I'm still a little shaky on this... who, exactly, was Chiyo? It's almost like she was his guardian angle, having saved him (and Jack) from doom several times. And who was the other girl referenced from Hannibal's past (started with an "M")...? His sister?
The show was filmed and done before they knew it was cancelled, so they couldn't be rushing to the end unless they assumed it was going to be cancelled anyway, which would of been risky if it hadn't and they rushed to the end.

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I think Hannibal surrendered for a few reasons. It wasn't that the "jig was up" he could have escaped if he wanted to. This was more of his relationship with Jack. Jack had that long speech about how he wanted to be rid of Hannibal and no longer know anything about him. Hannibal specifically let him know that now Jack will always know where to find him

That's feasible, but I took it that it was related to Will. He was looking at Will the whole time he was saying all of that. Will had also dismissed him earlier and Hannibal wasn't too pleased about it.
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That's feasible, but I took it that it was related to Will. He was looking at Will the whole time he was saying all of that. Will had also dismissed him earlier and Hannibal wasn't to pleased about it.
I think he meant Will when he said Jack.
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Book Hannibal would have never surrendered. He loves his freedom above all else and prison food is the truest horror on earth. But TV Hannibal as it's been made clear has some kind of fatal attraction for Will. "I'm not going to be IGNORED!"
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Book Hannibal would have never surrendered. He loves his freedom above all else and prison food is the truest horror on earth. But TV Hannibal as it's been made clear has some kind of fatal attraction for Will. "I'm not going to be IGNORED!"

We know Hannibal well enough (and the story) to know that he knew this was not permanent. The "surrender" if anything was more of a jab at Will. He's always more than a few steps ahead of everyone. Of course with the help he gives his prison food is better than what most of us eat on a daily basis


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Even half of this ep was right out of the book, I thought this ep was one of the best I've seen. The scene with Reba and the tiger was done as well as I could imagine that scene -- better than done on Manhunter (I didn't see Red Dragon so I don't even know if they did that scene). The interplay with Will and Bedelia was first rate and the flashback to her client was unexpected. Wow!

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