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post #1 of 8 Old 06-23-2013, 04:20 PM - Thread Starter
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Flipping through the tv channels today I noticed CBS was carrying PGA Golf. Obviously that in of itself isn't news. However I did notice the CBS logo in the lower right corner was outside the 4:3 safe zone. I switched over from CBS HD to CBS SD, it was in letterbox. Is anyone eexperiencing this?

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You know, CBS and the other major networks have sent only the HD feed to local stations. Whether that native 16:9 image is cropped to 4:3 or letterboxed depends on the local station. It is highly likely that KFMB-TV has letterboxed CBS network programing in its SD feed that's sent only to cable and satellite providers (OTA viewers get only the station's HD feed).
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So basically there really is no reason for broadcast networks to present shows in 4:3 safe mode anymore.

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But they still have Big Brother in 4:3 SD (must be the same cameras from 12 years ago in the house)

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In my opinion? No. However as the above poster said, that's up to the networks, and then up to each individual station to make their own decision.
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Well either way, I see this as a sign of progress for HDTV viewers. Here's the screenshots I took. First link is the standard def letterbox feed & the second one was the normal HD shot. I guess what surprised me was that CBS has their logo outside their 4:3 safe zone.

http://db.tt/39YtjMFd

http://db.tt/97W0rzBW

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The SD version of WCBS-DT on FIOS was 4:3 full screen for golf.

Confirming Big Brother is SD as video of The Talk hosts playing the game is SD 4:3.
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Fox was the first broadcast network to embrace letterboxing for sd and worked pretty well. Will abc be next? I think so. The sd version of abc is mostly 4:3, including sports produced by espn. Premium channels owned by starz and showtime still use 4:3 for standard def. Msnbc was the last news channel to transition to letterbox nbcsn the last sports network to do that. What about news 12? They need to do letterboxing although the text would be smaller and that a portion of the area map is cut off for sd viewers. ...sucks that cartoon network letterboxed their sd feed.
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