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Lillard was excellent in this episode. His scenes were effective and heavy and the stuff of meaningful drama.

Then he got kidnapped by Dr. Nefarious (who used his psychic powers once again to figure out were Frye was) and Frye was dragged to the railroad lines. I will be pissed if Lillard is killed off. It will be the second time one of the more interesting and promising characters has bit the dust this season, but his credit as "guest star" doesn't bode well for his longevity.

Solid performance from Diane Kruger this week too and Marco digging in the dirt was another good scene, but that performance felt like the actors trapped inside a Road Runner cartoon trying to make the most of it.

I was amusing myself trying to figure out how Tate got away from the crash in the middle of nowhere. He must have had the car stashed nearby for Sonya to see the plate, so did that mean he drove the car out there first and walked back for the Acme delivery truck or did he drive the truck out there first, walk back for his car, drive to the truck and then switch vehicles when Sonya was around the corner? Did Tate drive around just looking for a truck that was randomly left at the side of the road on a route that his psychic powers told him Sonya would take? It's like a riddle inside an enigma shrouded in mystery!

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I thought the license plate belonged to the truck, which was still drivable after the crash.

After Tate grabbed Frye, he switched to Frye's car.

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Can't remember which way the ambulance that was blocked was going. Will re-watch the first episode when I get a chance.
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The bodies were sawn up in Denmark, but transported in a car stolen from a Swedish journalist I think
Just looked at it and the ambulance was headed to Denmark from Sweden so it was on the southbound side of the bridge. The body was positioned with the upper torso in Sweden.
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Just looked at it and the ambulance was headed to Denmark from Sweden so it was on the southbound side of the bridge. The body was positioned with the upper torso in Sweden.

OK, that data I have easy access to. Just that I have no clue where the border is. mad.gif

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*** not reading ***

Still gotta catch up. Been enjoying the forums too much to watch the episode rolleyes.gif

Gotta watch this week's episode!
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Wasn't that gut under ATF surveillance?

Looks like she'll have to use the tunnel now, since she didn't get any inheritance money.
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For those who like the original, just found subtitled teasers for Bron / Broen Series 2 which starts next Saturday (22nd).

http://eurodrama.wordpress.com/2013/08/02/tv-news-the-bridge-ii/

Think they capture Saga and Martin brilliantly - though also I don't think they give away too much from the Series 1 plot. (Be interesting to see if the US remake of Series 1 comes to the same conclusion)
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For those who like the original, just found subtitled teasers for Bron / Broen Series 2 which starts next Saturday (22nd).

http://eurodrama.wordpress.com/2013/08/02/tv-news-the-bridge-ii/

Think they capture Saga and Martin brilliantly - though also I don't think they give away too much from the Series 1 plot. (Be interesting to see if the US remake of Series 1 comes to the same conclusion)
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Anyone remember the movie Seven? Don't worry if you forgot, you just saw the ending. Dragged out for thirty minutes. Gus was the head in a box, Sonya was Morgan Freeman and Marco was WRATH!! Almost.

The tunnel opening was great and Bichir gave a good perfomance (Kruger looked suitably haggard too) but as soon as Tate appeared he just sucked the air out of the show. As Marco said, "It was an accident!" which made the motive stretched to breaking point and beyond even more ridiculous. Even more so because the original socio-political motive could have been quite powerful, but in the end it was totally irrelevant. Everything Tate wanted to do could have been accomplished without the bisected bodies, convoluted bombs, fake manifesto and immigrant agenda. All the people Tate wanted revenge upon he could have just found personally and without such stupid theatrics or by building fake rooms with their own plumbing between kidnappings.

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That episode just did me in for this series. All the drawn out drama, the slow motion shots, were just too over the top.

I call it the Breaking Bad effect. I finding myself judging all these other shows against Breaking Bad and they just have no chance.
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I thought it was a lame episode. I understand them trying to be all dramatic. But some of it was pure nonsense. Tate runs all kinds of plumbing throughout the house and into the garage into the tank Gus was in? I could go on about other things, but you get the idea. I'll watch the last two episodes just to finish it out, but I won't be watching it next season.
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Yeah, I didn't expect Gustavo's demise at all, I thought the genius Sonya would rescue him on time, well, now what? Will the reporter recover? Will Marco ever see Sonya again, if so, how? maybe another case?

Strange that they didn't show or even mentioned Marco's wife, after all, her son died, shouldn't she be there? perhaps next week.

Also a big break for the ranch/tunnel thing, but wouldn't the authorities find the tunnel when they find all those dead bodies in there?

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Strange that they didn't show or even mentioned Marco's wife, after all, her son died, shouldn't she be there? perhaps next week.

Marco's (estranged) wife is not Gus's mother. We have never seen his mother as far as I can remember. I don't know if she is even alive, or if they are just divorced. Gus seemed to indicate that Marco cheated on his first wife so that is why they are not together. Gus was very concerned that he would also be thrown out of the house when Marco got thrown out since he was not her son.
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Oh that explains why Marco said to his current wife he didn't cheat on her with Tate's wife, but Gus was over 21 and those events happened 15 years ago...

Well at least he was his step mother that raised him for 10+ years and maybe we'll see her and Gus' 2 half sisters in the funeral

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Also a big break for the ranch/tunnel thing, but wouldn't the authorities find the tunnel when they find all those dead bodies in there?

Looks as if the show is going from "The Bridge" to "The Tunnel".
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Looks as if the show is going from "The Bridge" to "The Tunnel".
I thought the tunnel had more interesting storylines than the bridge this season. And what ever Linder is doing, also more interesting than the main story. If next season is yet another chase the nutcase killer down then I won't be back, but if it explores the far more interesting stories they've already initiated, then I'm in.
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I wonder what the final 2 eps of the season will be about? they got the main guy, perhaps he gets the lethal injection and Marco watches him die?

Yeah I want to see the Linder storyline continue and what's going to happen to the Ranch/Tunnel

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I hate to agree with the last few posts, but I guess I do. Although, after forcing myself through the entire season of "The Following", and the unintentional comedy stylings of "Revolution, my expectations are at an all time low.

I still like this show, I just don't have the expectations I formed after watching the pre-season commercials, and the first few episodes.

I was glad they killed off Gus, at least they didn't go for the typical "saved just in the nick of time" ending.

As far as Tate, any expectations of an interesting and/or creative end story died in that bathroom in Juarez. Although he did show a genuine frustration of the U.S. drug appetite enabling the misery of victims of violence south of the border.

The other end of the tunnel is likely controlled by a cartel or other bad guy, so I don't expect the police to find those bodies. There was likely a shoot out with some rival.

Also, Tate isn't finished I bet. And there's still the Linder/Eva storyline to resolve.

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Also a big break for the ranch/tunnel thing, but wouldn't the authorities find the tunnel when they find all those dead bodies in there?

The tunnel entrance was a hidden door, plus there is no indication the police will discover the murder scene first. Even if they did they might not care if they are paid off.


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I wonder what the final 2 eps of the season will be about? they got the main guy, perhaps he gets the lethal injection and Marco watches him die?

Yeah I want to see the Linder storyline continue and what's going to happen to the Ranch/Tunnel
Correct if I'm missing something but the "main guy" they got I don't think had anything to do with the prostitutes killed. There are more crimes to be solved.
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Correct if I'm missing something but the "main guy" they got I don't think had anything to do with the prostitutes killed. There are more crimes to be solved.

Outside of those killings we saw him commit, Tate was only responsible for the women on the bridge, poisoning the immigrants in the desert and murdering the original Hastings that he buried under the cabin.

The girls buried under pink crosses will be next season's mystery.


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Outside of those killings we saw him commit, Tate was only responsible for the women on the bridge, poisoning the immigrants in the desert and murdering the original Hastings that he buried under the cabin.

The girls buried under pink crosses will be next season's mystery.

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Well Tate was responsible for half of the women of the bridge, the other one he stole her half from Juarez' morgue

Yeah "The Beast" could be the next season storyline

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Outside of those killings we saw him commit, Tate was only responsible for the women on the bridge, poisoning the immigrants in the desert and murdering the original Hastings that he buried under the cabin.

The girls buried under pink crosses will be next season's mystery.
So to speak, the pink crosses are a symbol to create awareness of the problem and are usually placed in areas where they'll be seen by the public. While many of the crosses have been placed where some of their bodies have been found, they are typically not buried under the crosses themselves.

I do hope they tackle the subject, though being that these murders have yet to be solved, or even appear to be linked to one individual - it's seen more as a social issue where women are being killed by many people - I don't see how they could actually solve it, it would be rather pretentious on the showrunners part I think. I do see it being a running theme throughout the show though, there's a lot of ways they could go with that subject, the mention of "the Beast" being one of those.

That and the tunnel, and I wish they hadn't killed off Graciela(?) the female gang boss. Frankly, I found her and the rest of the secondary storyline cast to be more interesting than Tate and his machinations, he was just boringly familiar as a bad guy.
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Well the show doesn't have to solve all the murders, but they could solve the murder of one girl or a handful as part of a cold case. That way the subject is still brought to the fore and a crime story can be written around it.

There's still two episodes left this season so the events can be set in motion.


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Well the show doesn't have to solve all the murders, but they could solve the murder of one girl or a handful as part of a cold case. That way the subject is still brought to the fore and a crime story can be written around it.

There's still two episodes left this season so the events can be set in motion.
Yes, I agree, they can pick away at the subject by having their own "female killing" cases. There's so much material that can be drawn from in that area it would be a shame if they went with yet another nutcase revenge killer.
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At the beginning of the series Marco was the nice, good guy. Now he is the guy that, because he can't control his libido, caused everything to happen, including the murder of his own son. He went from being the most likable character to being the most flawed. An interesting twist that I think they did very well.
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At the beginning of the series Marco was the nice, good guy. Now he is the guy that, because he can't control his libido, caused everything to happen, including the murder of his own son. He went from being the most likable character to being the most flawed. An interesting twist that I think they did very well.

Well I don't agree with that assessment! Marco cheated on his ex-wife. Technically, he cheated on his current wife, though it was only a one night stand (his wife actually retaliated with a full blown affair).

Tate is a psychopath and a mass murderer who blames everyone but himself for the events in his life. I've never understood the idea of blaming the other person rather than the spouse for an affair. It was Tate's' wife who married Tate, not Marco.

Tate's wife and kid were killed by the equivalent of a drunk driver. He killed at least 15 people in retaliation.

Even Frye is more flawed than Marco. He's an alcoholic/drug addict who cares only for himself. He even stated that in the second episode.

I would have liked to have seen more surprise connections to the case like the FBI guy and the hooker. I would have liked the killer to have actually had political motives. Maybe Marcos boss could have been dragged into it somehow. The killer could somehow be behind the tunnel.

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At the beginning of the series Marco was the nice, good guy. Now he is the guy that, because he can't control his libido, caused everything to happen, including the murder of his own son. He went from being the most likable character to being the most flawed. An interesting twist that I think they did very well.

Interesting resolution.
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The original series had the same resolution. The way that they handled Martin/Marco's son's death - where you saw him being found after seeing him trapped alive (walled in behind a partition behind a freezer in a garage ISTR) but didn't know whether he was alive or dead - was one of the truly shocking moments of the series. Very pleased the US version didn't "Hollywood-ise" the story and allow the son to survive
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