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Years ago when I heard baseball was going to be shown in HD , I was thrilled. It would be like I was in the stadium watching. Well it has not turned out that way. It is a much worse broadcast in terms of showing the action. Yes,We can see the sweat of the players,the color of their eyes. But what about that thing called the baseball. Examples; the flight of the ball on homeruns,sometimes we never see it go over the fence or just the last 10 feet. On long fly balls to the outfield we do not see the fielder running with him and the ball in sight so that we can estimate if he can catch it. The closeups do not let us see the whole field on a relay play from the outfield with the ball coming in and the runners rounding the bases. Sometimes we do not even see them cross the plate. Because the camera shot behind the pitcher is almost always used , forget about seeing a hard line drive to an infielder. I think the game was better televised years ago from an action point of view. So to the directors some suggestions; Pull back on your cameras,let the 16x9 work for you. Use the camera up higher behind the plate to show hard hit balls instantly . Show fly balls in flight as much as possible. HD should be able too make viewers see the action of the game like we are there. Thanks
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I agree. I miss the view from behind and above home plate, where I like to be at the park. It is a lot easier to follow the ball from there. Nowadays directors seem only interested in balls and strikes, hence the behind the pitcher view you get all the time.
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When it comes to watching sports in HD, football is king. Baseball on the other hand is easier to watch in person. Same for NBA/NHL games. Boxing/WWE/UFC is simple. Don't forget Olympics are great to watch because of the scenery footage before each day on nbc. Nascar and auto racing is great in hd. Cycling is good.
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Yes I agree,hockey is better in person.
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How about a skycam, like they use in football? I'm not advocating for it at this point, but I would like to see how such a camera might work, it could really provide some very interesting shots. Obviously there is the issue of obstructing the view of the players and/or interfering with the flight of the ball, I would still like to see it experimented with.

I absolutely agree that the textbook shots/angle in baseball broadcasts nowadays really need to get a bit more creative
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Skycam is an interesting thought ,I think it would show the ball more. Anything to show the action more.Imagine a football game on tv when a pass is thrown and you only see the last 2 feet of it. I feel there must be a better way to show baseball on tv .A start would be to pull back the camera shots.
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How about a skycam, like they use in football? I'm not advocating for it at this point, but I would like to see how such a camera might work, it could really provide some very interesting shots. Obviously there is the issue of obstructing the view of the players and/or interfering with the flight of the ball, I would still like to see it experimented with.
Well, it certainly would have to work pretty hard to be able to interfere more than the crap hanging from the ceiling of the Kingdome....
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Well, it certainly would have to work pretty hard to be able to interfere more than the crap hanging from the ceiling of the Kingdome....
Well, the cabling could come loose like it did at a NASCAR race recently.biggrin.gif
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Well, the cabling could come loose like it did at a NASCAR race recently.biggrin.gif
I would count that as working pretty hard....

After all, how many times has a skycam actually affected the action on the field of play? I'll bet it's less often than fans, objects in the venue (chairs, speakers, field markers, etc.), refs or the video/photo crews on the ground around the field of play. Heck, even the marching band has interupted play.....

Heck, I'll bet birds have stolen more golf balls than skycams have ever gotten in the way of.
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Do any of you remember the HDNet baseball broadcasts from the early-2000s? IMO that was still some of the most impressive sports footage I have seen, especially of baseball. They definitely made use of 16x9 and pulled back to let us see more of the field, and it was easier to follow the action. Sadly the techniques pioneered in those early days have been lost in the interest of protecting the SD viewer.
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Great call Heels, full band-width 1080i. After seeing it at a Sports-bar and getting some understanding of it I took the plunge. HD Net Sports we're the quality standard. I still haven't seen NHL Hockey look as good as Cuban's Network presented it. It ALWAYS popped. The good old days...
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Well, it certainly would have to work pretty hard to be able to interfere more than the crap hanging from the ceiling of the Kingdome....
You mean Tropicana Field. The Kingdome was demolished in 2000.
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HD NET was fantastic in showing sports action.I remember that they showed some college football ,and you could actually see the pass patterns the wide recievers were running . Baseball was also done very well. I think Mark Cuban made sure there was wery little compression on his signal ,so the picture quality was ouystanding. Todays HD viewers would be amazed.
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Don't forget the addition of slo mo 4k cameras in recent years.
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