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Except that today, we have a society that's been completely dumbed down in a lot of ways that didn't exist 40 and 50 years ago. People may have been more innocent and naive in many ways, but they weren't ignorant and stupid. (OK, some people were, but a lot of that could be explained by lack of education, but today even supposedly "educated" people are ignorant about a lot of things. I blame mass media.) So we might have people who are smarter about technology and things like that, but many of them are completely ignorant about history, even history that happened a few short decades ago. It's very sad.

And what is really frightening, is how many people in government today don't know much about science, but they sit on science committees in government and make policy about science. If you sit on a government committee, shouldn't it be a requirement to understand the material? And many of them are religious zealots. We've been moving entirely in the wrong direction with that regard. I have to ask myself if they really believe this stuff, or if they understand how to use it to control people, but don't actually believe it at all.



Exactly. But I disagree that it's harder today. It seems to me that they control the masses very easily today through mass media of all types. There is so much propaganda and misinformation out there, and people will believe what they see and read without thinking about it even if it makes no sense logically. And if something challenges their long held beliefs they simply disregard it because it's too uncomfortable for them to see the logic. Cognitive dissonance is alive and well.
Although these type screeds drifting into political and religious areas are generally frowned upon on AVS, I'll simply say that everything you mention has been that way for a long, long time ..

You discount the fact that information is more readily accessible now than at any time in History .. "Arab Spring" .. ??

Cognitive dissonance .. ?? It never died .. you have it, I have it, we all have it ..
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Although these type screeds drifting into political and religious areas are generally frowned upon on AVS, I'll simply say that everything you mention has been that way for a long, long time ..

You discount the fact that information is more readily accessible now than at any time in History .. "Arab Spring" .. ??

Cognitive dissonance .. ?? It never died .. you have it, I have it, we all have it ..
yea, I never would've gone there if someone else didn't mention it first. My apologies. I elaborated, and I should've left it alone. I'll try to refrain in the future.
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Except that today, we have a society that's been completely dumbed down in a lot of ways that didn't exist 40 and 50 years ago. People may have been more innocent and naive in many ways, but they weren't ignorant and stupid. (OK, some people were, but a lot of that could be explained by lack of education, but today even supposedly "educated" people are ignorant about a lot of things. I blame mass media.) So we might have people who are smarter about technology and things like that, but many of them are completely ignorant about history, even history that happened a few short decades ago. It's very sad.
Amen to that....


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And what is really frightening, is how many people in government today don't know much about science, but they sit on science committees in government and make policy about science. If you sit on a government committee, shouldn't it be a requirement to understand the material? And many of them are religious zealots. We've been moving entirely in the wrong direction with that regard. I have to ask myself if they really believe this stuff, or if they understand how to use it to control people, but don't actually believe it at all.
They are put there by The Money People.

Anyway, let's get back to the show (before the Mods show up).
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I was 'Moderated" once for simply pointing out the ignorance of a Survivor contestant, who already had spouted their political leanings.

Anyway, I am refreshed to see the above comments! I thank you for that

One can feel isolated in these strange times.

I am right in line with all that was said... and yes follow the money!

Since corporations and the wealthy (Now more than ever. Thanks SCOTUS), can now own politicians... It is ever increasing profits and power for them and trickle down yellow rain for us.

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Big Sur was mentioned above.

A truly special place!

I have only been there a couple times back in the 80s. It was bliss.

On one of my solo motorcycle adventures, met a small group of Dead Heads at Pfeiffer State Beach/Park. We were quick friends! They showed me a little known dirt road that went many miles around. (An emergency detour in case Pfeiffer Bridge is out.) About half way round there was a beautiful riparian zone with a small stream, crayfish and Redwoods!

(It bares noting: Recently, smugglers, chased by Coast Guard had thrown their haul overboard. Well... a big storm arose shortly there after. Much of this material (Tied to sticks and of a medicinal nature.) Washed ashore! Even the elderly shop owners in the small hamlet were, well... let's just say, the local economy had a sudden boost

I left after a week. Went up to B.C. Came back and my merry band were still there!

Well, I hope the series somehow captures the special nature of the place. I great convergence of sea, mountains, pocket forests and eccentric folk
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Big Sur was mentioned above.

A truly special place!

I have only been there a couple times back in the 80s. It was bliss.

On one of my solo motorcycle adventures, met a small group of Dead Heads at Pfeiffer State Beach/Park. We were quick friends! They showed me a little known dirt road that went many miles around. (An emergency detour in case Pfeiffer Bridge is out.) About half way round there was a beautiful riparian zone with a small stream, crayfish and Redwoods!

(It bares noting: Recently, smugglers, chased by Coast Guard had thrown their haul overboard. Well... a big storm arose shortly there after. Much of this material (Tied to sticks and of a medicinal nature.) Washed ashore! Even the elderly shop owners in the small hamlet were, well... let's just say, the local economy had a sudden boost

I left after a week. Went up to B.C. Came back and my merry band were still there!

Well, I hope the series somehow captures the special nature of the place. I great convergence of sea, mountains, pocket forests and eccentric folk
Great story...thanx.


IIRC, there was indications the new season will take place in several different CA locales....from the desert to the Central Valley to the Redwoods.
If true, I think it is a great idea to place the season in various statewide regions.
CA truly has a great mixture of very different ecosystems.
I'm willing to bet it has greater variety than any other state.

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We may never again see a collaboration like Richard Pryor / Mel Brooks .. and yes, to most of what you've said .. however, I believe we as a Country have an innate ability to laugh at ourselves if given the right context and presentation .. and Pryor / Brooks captured that "Lightning in a Bottle"with "Saddles" ..
Except that is not Richard Pryor. "Sheriff" is portrayed by comedian Cleavon Little (he passed back in '92, I think). Little was in a terrible ABC medical sitcom (Temperature Rising) when I was a kid. I did see an interview that Mel Brooks did a few years back.

He talked about how he actually wanted Pryor for the role, but studio heads rejected that because of his known drug abuse habit. It worked out OK without Pryor.
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Except that is not Richard Pryor. "Sheriff" is portrayed by comedian Cleavon Little (he passed back in '92, I think). Little was in a terrible ABC medical sitcom (Temperature Rising) when I was a kid. I did see an interview that Mel Brooks did a few years back.

He talked about how he actually wanted Pryor for the role, but studio heads rejected that because of his known drug abuse habit. It worked out OK without Pryor.

Richard Pryor was a co-writer on the screenplay.

BTW Clevon Little was also great in "Vanishing Point".
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Oh, maybe he was referring to the screenplay ::never mind:: </ Gilda Radner voice

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Except that is not Richard Pryor. "Sheriff" is portrayed by comedian Cleavon Little (he passed back in '92, I think). Little was in a terrible ABC medical sitcom (Temperature Rising) when I was a kid. I did see an interview that Mel Brooks did a few years back.

He talked about how he actually wanted Pryor for the role, but studio heads rejected that because of his known drug abuse habit. It worked out OK without Pryor.
The tip off was "We may never again see a collaboration like Richard Pryor / Mel Brooks" .. I would have thought any fan of "Saddles" would know of Pryor's involvement .. .. in fact, Pryor deserves as much credit for the film as Brooks, IMO ..

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