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Strange that the family wasn't able to get insurance or anything. Generally, you can get a presumption of death under each state's law after 5 years plus or minus from a missing person.

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Strange that the family wasn't able to get insurance or anything. Generally, you can get a presumption of death under each state's law after 5 years plus or minus from a missing person.
Someone pointed that out to me earlier. No explanation other than the insured is the same guy who went to London to buy T-bills.
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7/8

best episode so far, plot is folding and even VV managed to be bad ass.

Story could have started with this episode flashing back to what led as here ?

Still plenty to do in just one episode
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best episode so far, plot is folding and even VV managed to be bad ass.

Story could have started with this episode flashing back to what led as here ?

Still plenty to do in just one episode
The problem I have is that the underlying plot is so far removed from the story they are showing on the screen to be completely incomprehensible to me. I don't remember the names or understand their connections. I was interested in the murder mystery at first but the last bunch of shows have had nothing to do with it and is all about the individual problems of the characters so the impact is really poor, at least for me. Its just a bunch of mostly white old creepy guys doing randomly bad things.

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best episode so far, plot is folding and even VV managed to be bad ass.

Story could have started with this episode flashing back to what led as here ?

Still plenty to do in just one episode
I agree that this week's show was the best of the season, by far. Despite how much of the season's complex conspiracy story the episode revealed, I thought it was remarkably clearly told. Kudos to Nic Pizzolatto! Just hope that next week's season finale lives up to this week's show.
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Yeah, they made a big deal that they needed to hire porn actresses for an orgy scene that "regular" actresses wouldn't be comfortable with. All I saw were a couple quick shots of naked girls in dim lighting.

They must have said that to get people to keep watching till the end.

I must be in the minority, as I believe VV is doing a very good job in his role.
+1 VV is terrific. All this criticism seems off target to me.

As for this season versus last, Frankly (pun intended) I am enjoying this way more than watching a creepy MM chain smoke for ten weeks.

I am having the same difficulty as others connecting the dots on who the bad guys are but for the most part the writing and acting is superior to most tripe on television and in the theaters in this country. They certainly picked up the pace in this latest episode. Looking forward to next week's finale.

Footnote: I suppose my perspective is influenced by the fact that I live in California and see corruption, incompetence, bribery, and fraud at every level of government in this state. If you ever heard of Bell, CA and saw the salaries of the Cal State employees & union employees, you know exactly what I mean.
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I agree that this week's show was the best of the season, by far. Despite how much of the season's complex conspiracy story the episode revealed, I thought it was remarkably clearly told.
I think you're in a pretty small minority with that opinion. I've stuck with the show and tried to defend most of the season, but with this episode, I finally had to admit that I have no f***ing clue what's happening, who's doing what to whom and why, or how any individual storyline is connected to anything else. It's just a huge, totally incomprehensible muddle.
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When you jump into a car with your DA-office recruiter and she's seriously unresponsive, and you're involved with deadly crimes along with other special recruits, it's bad, bad news. This episode, with everyone but the President apparently involved in corruption, reminded me of that long-distance shot near the end of season one: Some stripped-down dude stalking past buildings looking like a bigfoot animal. Next week it'll be chilling news about their local FBI office. -- John
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was this "black op"-boss same as police chief who said "Better be careful out there!" when
dynamic trio went to arrest that pawn shop suspect which turned out to shoot out/ambush ?

also, when in last scene of the episode shooter enters into a car, was it Bezzerides's ex-partners car (the one she hugged earlier)?

can't agree that plot is been told clearly, this show really needs another look later

still open (imo) who shoot Velcro/birds head theme? rapist? who runs this "black op"-group, Frank's
girl friends final role in this

and oh yes, if
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was his girlfriends dream, i'm not gonna
watch anything ever that Pizzolatto does....
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was this "black op"-boss same as police chief who said "Better be careful out there!" when
dynamic trio went to arrest that pawn shop suspect which turned out to shoot out/ambush ?
I don't remember if he was the one who said that but he is the Vinci police chief.
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also, when in last scene of the episode shooter enters into a car, was it Bezzerides's ex-partners car (the one she hugged earlier)?
I figured it was the police chief who Woodrugh knocked in the head, he came to and picked up Burris. Ani's partner would have been in Oregon at the time and he's with the Ventura police dept anyway, which doesn't appear to be involved at all.
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can't agree that plot is been told clearly, this show really needs another look later
I can't go with it being told clearly either, I'm picking it up and somewhat following it, but it's definitely not clear.
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My money is on Burris, the same guy who killed Woodrugh. Burris is a lieutenant in the Vinci police dept and was also involved in the jewelry store heist/murder along with his boss the chief and the dead Caspere.
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Naw, don't see that happening at all, Woodrugh is dead, dead, dead.


I should also add that I think one of the main reasons the story is not easy to follow is that I still think it really doesn't have anything to do with land deals. I think the underlying, and ultimately the force behind the death of Caspere(and all the subsequent deaths his death has caused), is the two kids from the jewelry store robbery. I think this story is one long and convoluted story of revenge.

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Footnote: I suppose my perspective is influenced by the fact that I live in California and see corruption, incompetence, bribery, and fraud at every level of government in this state. If you ever heard of Bell, CA and saw the salaries of the Cal State employees & union employees, you know exactly what I mean.[/QUOTE]

I thought that NJ is number one in the pond scum pool. How did CA get ahead of us?

As for this episode, VV finally got his acts together but not sure if could get away with it next week.

Oink is right, I'm getting tired of see Ani's mold in every episode though her role with Ray was great. "You are not a bad man."

This might be the longest episode of them all, over an hour with so much revelation. However, all these "coincident" did not work for me. The director and screen writer were either too smart or too dumb for my taste. I do enjoy this one with Paul's underground fight. With one hour left, I'm glad it's coming to an end.

I do hope all 4 leads can stay alive but not very likely. Please surprise me.
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A little late for that.



3 leads and a limping monkey?
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I thought that NJ is number one in the pond scum pool. How did CA get ahead of us?

As for this episode, VV finally got his acts together but not sure if could get away with it next week.

Oink is right, I'm getting tired of see Ani's mold in every episode though her role with Ray was great. "You are not a bad man."

This might be the longest episode of them all, over an hour with so much revelation. However, all these "coincident" did not work for me. The director and screen writer were either too smart or too dumb for my taste. I do enjoy this one with Paul's underground fight. With one hour left, I'm glad it's coming to an end.

I do hope all 4 leads can stay alive but not very likely. Please surprise me.

Next week's guide shows 90 minutes for the finale! Last two episodes were great, story really coming together, and so atmospheric. Not Season 1 but still high quality tv.
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Also, Frank's lines even outdone his previous episodes. He said something about "orifice" and I almost choked on that one. These screenwriters really are something. Frank should be framed among the Criminal Hall of Fame for his edudite lines.
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I've come to wait expectantly for the jewels in Frank's stilted manner of speech. The best part of the show, imo.

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Where did the black guy confronting Paul come from in the past of the show? Don't remember him at all.

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If the young daughter of the dead jeweler was skulking around in the killer's den presumably waiting to exact revenge, where & who is her brother?

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Frank's wife has magnificent tits.

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Where did the black guy confronting Paul come from in the past of the show? Don't remember him at all.
He's the Vinci police chief and one of the people who allegedly did the jewelry store heist/murder, along with Vinci detective Burris is who standing next to him in the below image.


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Man... people have some terrible memory when watching TV... lol
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The problem I have is that the underlying plot is so far removed from the story they are showing on the screen to be completely incomprehensible to me. I don't remember the names or understand their connections. I was interested in the murder mystery at first but the last bunch of shows have had nothing to do with it and is all about the individual problems of the characters so the impact is really poor, at least for me. Its just a bunch of mostly white old creepy guys doing randomly bad things.
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I've stuck with the show and tried to defend most of the season, but with this episode, I finally had to admit that I have no f***ing clue what's happening, who's doing what to whom and why, or how any individual storyline is connected to anything else. It's just a huge, totally incomprehensible muddle.
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The only thing everyone can agree on (BTW, I nearly chocked on my burrito with that one).

GD, I wish I hadn't wasted another season with this silly-ass series...
My head told me not to, but I didn't listen.

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I still say it was a great season. So what if I have to watch it again to understand it?
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I still say it was a great season. So what if I have to watch it again to understand it?
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Plot recap by Slate:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/...ng_season.html

Still is basically uninteresting/unintelligible.

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Man... people have some terrible memory when watching TV... lol

You have to remember many here are multitasking (not focusing on the shows they watch). Not sure this is one where you can do that while this season has t grabbed me like season 1, I don't have really any problems with it. People came in looking for season one, when we knew that it want going to really be the same.


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Funny stuff...they have a sense of humor about it too.



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You have to remember many here are multitasking (not focusing on the shows they watch). Not sure this is one where you can do that while this season has t grabbed me like season 1, I don't have really any problems with it. People came in looking for season one, when we knew that it want going to really be the same.
SOOOOO, you are saying this isn't the True Detective series we fell in love with last year, but something else?

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Funny stuff...they have a sense of humor about it too.




SOOOOO, you are saying this isn't the True Detective series we fell in love with last year, but something else?

Well that much is obvious I thought from before the season started. While not without its flaws, there are some here I swear LIKE watching just so they can post how much they dislike it. It's like inviting a pig to a pig roast and then mixing in roast swine into its food. oh wait sorry that is a Hannibal plot line


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While not without its flaws, there are some here I swear LIKE watching just so they can post how much they dislike it.

This is AVS...and AVS members have always reserved the right to bitch & moan when they don't like what they see.
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